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Sen. Ted Cruz's talkathon in favor of defunding Obamacare ends after 21 hours, 19 minutes


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  • Martin Blank Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    So Senator Cruz read "Green Eggs and Ham" and somehow missed the moral of the story, which is that eventually, the speaker in the book eats the green eggs and ham and likes it. What does it say about the state of our country today that a sitting US Senator doesn't have the reading comprehension of a five-year-old? There are only fifty unique words in that book, Senator--why is it you can't understand them?

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 26, 2013 9:38 a.m.


    All the republicans do anymore is make "symbolic" gestures trying to gain some kind of political advantage. I have a novel thought, since the republicans are much smarter than everyone else how about they share with us some of their good ideas, rather than wasting everyone's time with their circus side show.....I mean symbolic gestures.

  • TA1 Alexandria, VA
    Sept. 26, 2013 6:44 a.m.

    Somehow reading Dr Seuss (or anything else) to the Senate does not equate with doing anything useful, nor does not working for the betterment of the American people - like developing and passing a budget.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 3:04 a.m.

    This fake filibuster was arranged with Harry Reid and was a dog and pony show for the gullible. Our Senator was either the dog or the pony,

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 12:37 a.m.

    I know that a lot of people do not like Mitt Romney but to me he was the right one for the job this last time we had an election. We would not be even having this kind of an issue going on. Obama is not a leader Mitt Romney is. Yes people say that he was really not a Rep. will he is an honest man who knows how to lead. This is what this Country needs at this time. It was to bad that most of the Republicans stayed home because their guy did not make it. Now we have this mess and we deserve it totally. So if you were one of those who stayed home or just did not take the time to vote. Shame on you and we are in this mess because of all of those who thought that we would be o.k. with a second term of Obama.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:38 p.m.

    thank you 'patriot' and 'worf' and others: Anybody who believes that these 'representatives' are doing anything but posturing for more power, prominence, and property are naïve and ignorant at best, and at worst 'Kingmen' supporters.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    re:Open Minded Mormon

    The action by Cruz was symbolic - he wasn't up there trying to set policy. Cruz did this to bring to the fore front the disaster that is Obamacare. Today on the way home I listened for example to the Rod Arquette show and the host (who was filling in for Rod) gave some very clear and shocking evidence that is Obamacare. He buys his insurance on the open market and pays 550 a month for his policy. His insurance company informed him that his policy was now canceled due to Obamacare and he would have to go to the exchange now. His new policy from the exchange would be 900 a month. Yes DOUBLE his current policy. He said he and his wife couldn't afford the 900 month and then have to wait nearly 18 months for a small rebate. Call after call after call came in with the SAME STORY. If this is not a disaster I don't know what it is. You take from the lower middle income and you redistribute to the poor...leaving those in the middle with nothing. Cruz was Paul Revere sounding the alarm...Obamacare is coming.....

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:29 p.m.

    Atl: 'They disagree on gun control, immigration reform, abortion, gay marriage, health insurance coverage, food stamps, oil subsidies, contraceptive coverage, alternative energy investment, social security privatization, banking regulation, existence of an estate tax, capital gains tax rates, voter ID requirements, the existence of the dept of education, commerce and that other one (energy).'

    Thanks for proving my point. Couldn't have done if I had planned for years. Perhaps you haven't noticed that all the things that you claim they 'disagree' on are a part of our country's laws. One way or another, the end result has been the same, which proves my point. Both Democrats and Republicans made them law. If there were any semblance of disagreement, we wouldn't have them. Thank you for proving my point!

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Sept. 25, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    21 hours, 19 minutes of mindlessly yapping
    not ONE;
    new idea, solution or alternative.

    What a complete waste of time.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    Great,--having a patriot with grit.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 4:30 p.m.

    @ TRUTH
    I believe it was Al Sharpton who said, "Resist we much."
    It's an easy mistake.
    It was Obama who praised the "Corpse man" for his service.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 25, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    "We are watching the destruction of the GOP. Hundreds of thousands of people stayed home in the 2012 election because Romney was too moderate. The Old Guard GOP is saying we need to reach out to left-leaning people."

    You've got it backwards. There were many who stayed at home because they couldn't support the President but felt Romney was a wealthy elitist who could not understand the common blue collar man.He did nothing to dispel that perception.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. All 2010 freshman senators. All young, bright, talented lawyers. All conservatives who REJECT the good ole boys club that is Washington. These guys were sent BY THE PEOPLE to Washington to STOP Barack Obama and not be get-a-long freshman senators who follow along the coat tails of progressive big government career politicians like John McCain. I applaud and salute Cruz in his efforts. It was symbolic but so was Mr Smith goes to Washington symbolic. It takes a symbolic stand to get the attention of the people - to wake them up and shake up the status-quo. America is burning to the ground under Obama and Reid and it appears that the establishment GOP career politicians want to simply play it safe for their own career longevity in the Senate. Disgusting. Perhaps it is time for conservatives to abandon the GOP. The GOP in the senate has become largely a bunch of gutless pastel politicians who want to smoke cigars and play the same ole game.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    "I want someone with any courage to explain how they are different without sounding naive, ignorant, or foolish! "

    They disagree on gun control, immigration reform, abortion, gay marriage, health insurance coverage, food stamps, oil subsidies, contraceptive coverage, alternative energy investment, social security privatization, banking regulation, existence of an estate tax, capital gains tax rates, voter ID requirements, the existence of the dept of education, commerce and that other one (energy).

    The vote today was to take up the house budget bill. The key vote will be later when Reid will need 60 to proceed to the phase in which the bill gets amended to restore Obamacare funding. Cruz will vote against that.

    Cruz was stalling and if they continue to use procedural hurdles to halt progress the senate might not get their version of the bill with enough time to allow for the final votes before the deadline is reached.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    It's worth noting that Cruz could have gone on for another hour. But he had to go on to Rush Limbaugh's radio show.

    The importance of debate in the two forums--at least as far as Sen. Cruz is concerned--seems obvious.

  • DeseretDebbie Corona, CA
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:01 p.m.

    And in the end Cruz self serving talkathon was the US Taxpayer spending money to hear Cruz read Green Eggs and Ham. He most likely used the taxpayer expense of overtime to raise money for his next election. So now we have publically funded candidates to raise private hidden $$.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    People talk as if there is any difference between the Republicans and Democrats. I want someone with any courage to explain how they are different without sounding naive, ignorant, or foolish! Any person, whether Republican or Democrat, is a fool if they believe that honesty prevails between parties and individuals drenched in power and corruption. I am not cynical! I do, however, live in the real world. Those who sought for those positions, then kept them, have been interested mostly in taking care of themselves and mostly interested in the prominence that comes with it. Helping the poor, standing on principle, and service are the last things on their minds. Obamacare is the latest example. Both parties loved passing this legislation, for it kept them, and their constituents, from being honest about themselves and honest about its purpose! Anybody who thinks differently is naive about human nature.

  • TeaPublican Houston, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    I am so proud of Sen. Cruz. He talked for 21 hrs and never even took a bathroom break. Heard at coffee this morning that “depends” played a major role in that accomplishment! Sen. Cruz was actually preventing the chamber from taking up the very legislation, a House bill, that he begged House Republicans to pass! Sen. Cruz had said “any Senator who votes (to move forward with debate on the House bill) is voting to give Harry Reid the authority to fund obamacare! But…but.. then Sen. Cruz voted with the democrats after trying to block the vote? What? After 21 straight hrs of talking against the bill, Sen. Cruz joined the other 99 senators from both parties in voting to move ahead on the spending plan? What? But remember the main thing we TeaPublicans are trying to accomplish here. Just like Sen. Gram said…if obamacare succeeds, then that woman hillary Clinton will be president in 2016! We TeaPublicans must stop obamacare now or suffer the consequences of having that woman hillary be our next president. We TeaPublicans will NEVER let that happen!

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    "For lack of a better way of describing this, it has been a big waste of time," said Reid, D-Nev.

    Just shows Reid's contempt for America and our form of Government. How much of America's time has Reid and his ilk wasted over the decades they have been in office?

    The very point of Cruz' demonstration is that he is promoting the point of view of US, is constituency.

    He is for smaller government, lower taxes, less government meddling, tax reform, less government waste. He is a principled man who does not participate in the taxpayer-funded congressional healthcare which allows them to self-exempt from Obamacare.

    We are proud of the way this first term Senator has tried to take back Washington for WE THE PEOPLE. Apparently you all are happy with the INACTION of your favorite home-boy INCUMBENTS. I say, vote out ALL incumbents and get people of integrity in Washington. People like Cruz, who remembers that they are supposed to SERVE, and that they work for US, not believing that we all work for THEM.

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    Sept. 25, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    Well its plain to see Obamacare supporters have commented here. I know of one company where one of the owners has said they will simply stop offering healthcare to their employees and pay the penalty. Everything is not going to be wonderful under Obamacare. Whose "facts" do I believe the Republicans or Democrats? And with the IRS administering Obamacare, do we really think things are going to be wonderful? I disagree with the folks who think Obamacare is a good thing. It is going to hurt this country.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 25, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    ACA fees are not paid by the insured. They are paid by the employer at a projected average of $63 per person per year. An employer who assesses an employee what he openly calls an, “ACA fee” of $50 per month may find himself facing Federal criminal charges.

    We need to be circumspect about the reliability of purported information floating around on the Internet, especially at the very moment a highly charged spectacle in Congress has the country on edge.

  • Cincinnatus Kearns, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    What exactly did this accomplish?

    Senator Cruz knew that his speech wasn't truly a filibuster. He may have talked a long time, but ultimately, Senate procedural rules allowed the vote to go forward. He couldn't have actually stopped it, which is the point of an actual filibuster.

    In my opinion, this had far less to do with the ACA being defunded than it has to do with Senator Cruz trying to build name recognition. This was his first shot across the bow in positioning himself to run for President in 2016, which in reality, makes this far more about his own personal political ambitions.

    Just another politician (Republican or Democrat) who's in it for themselves.

  • Nancy L.V. Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    Doing the hard thing and standing alone on principal is not easy. I believe Obamacare was rammed down the throats of Americans, even though the majority of Americans didn’t want it. Most of us Americans don’t have the power to change that or so we think. One American in a position of power has stood up to protest Obamacare and the importance of defunding this Socialist legislation. Thank heavens for Ted Cruz and God bless him and his family! Through him and people like him there’s a glimmer of hope that we have a chance of saving our US Constitution and our rights as citizens therein. Although Mr. Cruz is not my Senator, I hope and pray that we can get one with his courage and integrity!

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    Ted Cruz is an interesting person. He waste's our governments time, thus our time on a 21 hour 19 minute speach about nothing. Does this mean his Presidential campaign is official?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    Viva la Migra
    Has your employer imposed an ACA fee on you yet? Starting two months ago, every employee at my company has to pay a $50 ACA fee per month.

    Your employer is being dishonest.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:07 p.m.

    Liked listening to Sen Cruz reading "Green Eggs and Ham".

    His point was "I do not like it [Obamacare] Sam I am".

    He should have kept reading it.
    Because the moral of the entire story was He Tries it, and he LIKES it!

  • Alfred Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    @UT Brit:
    "Please do research on other countries health care systems before commenting on them."

    Could you forward an NHS booklet?

    Here in the US, we are obliged to follow former House Speaker Nancy Peloci's lead re examining healthcare systems: 'We don't know what's in the bill until we pass it.'

    "Alfred, UT Brit has real experience, listen and learn. To add to your so called premise a fairly recent poll done in Canada 90% of Canadians would not scrape their system for ours."

    The remaining 10% are probably those obliged to come to the US for needed care.

    "To 'Alfred' actually, you are wrong about the US government overhead costs. While just the Medicare department has a 3% overhead, the complete government has a 25% to 30% overhead rate."

    It's my understanding we were comparing just Medicare/private insurance overhead rates, not the enter government. I Googled for the Medicare/private insurance O/H rates. Even so, the 3% seems low.

    If you're talking about the O/H rate for the entire government... I'd say it's more like 100%.

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    Re: Craig Cook

    I take it you haven't had any open enrollment meetings yet. Don't be surprised if you find out that the same thing is happening to you.

    I've always enjoyed decent health insurance from an employer, and starting in 2014 all of the plans I prefer are going away, replaced by the high-deductible garbage offered from Obamacare.

    Has your employer imposed an ACA fee on you yet? Starting two months ago, every employee at my company has to pay a $50 ACA fee per month.

    You should visit the Colorado health exchange site and pull down some of the plan information. There you will find that someone living in Fort Collins will pay $300 more per month than someone living in Denver, for the same plan. Someone in Grand Junction, will pay more than $400 than someone in Denver for the same plan, just based on zip code.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    Here are specific reasons why I vociferously oppose the Affordable Care Act: let's make sure that those who have pre-existing conditions or chronically ill children have to pay more taxes by raising the medical deduction from 7.5% to 10% of adjusted gross income. Let's make sure that that same group of people gets to pay more for medical devises (this includes syringes for diabetes, etc) because of the 2.3% medical devise tax. Let's also ensure that those who are healthy and don't really need health insurance are forced to purchase it or pay the "tax" for failing to do so. Let's provide exchanges for these uninsured folks where they can purchase health insurance that is entirely useless either because: 1) they still can't afford to pay the monthly premium; or 2) the deductible is too high to really help them cover expenses.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    What truly horrible people.
    I'm supposed to believe it's just fine to have millions of families without access to affordable healthcare?
    If Romneycare (this was his plan and the conservative's plan before Obama proposed it) was so bad then the repubs would let it go in to effect just to watch it fail. The truth is, they know it's a good thing and they know it will work, and that's what they're afraid of.
    The worst part of this whole thing is that repubs favor doing nothing for the uninsured over doing the right thing. I guess that doesn't really shock anyone though, that is has been their platform for a while now.

  • Stalwart Sentinel San Jose, CA
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    This wasn't a filibuster, this was the longest comedic stand-up bit in history; it cannot realistically claim to be anything else.

    This guy belongs on the cover of "US Weekly", not on the Senate floor - his celebrity exists by creating news for doing literally nothing legislatively.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    Defunding Obamacare doesn't stop it from being law. What it would do though is well... cut off funding, so those subsidies going to people making less than 3x the poverty line (so around 60k/yr) in order to help them better afford health insurance, those would be gone. Way to be for sabotage and harming the American people on purpose.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    Sept. 25, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    More lack of substance from the party that has perfected the do nothing but fire up the ignorant masses game. The GOP and their supporters have relegated themselves to the butt of all jokes about what is wrong in the U.S.A.

  • JD Jones Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    My friend wrote, "I am currently enrolling in Utah's new Avenue H "Obamocare" program and am finding that will be saving a few hundren dollars a month over my current high deductive piece of garbage plan." People are finding this out across the country.

    Obamocare will prove successful, meaning that it will be way better than the old way, which is what Conservatives fear the most.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Good to know Cruz wants to drain as much time as possible off the clock. Heh, and people say Republicans don't want a gov't shutdown. They just want to force the Senate to vote on a bill so late in the process thanks to procedural rules that reconciliation with the House won't be completed in time.

  • RedneckLefty St. George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    Viva la Migra: if your company is going cheap on healthcare and blaming it on Obamacare, that's a problem with your company, not Obamacare. Also, the key to understanding your comment is in this quote: "We don't have plan details yet..." Lack of info has never stopped the Obamahaters from going off.

    TRUTH: Strom Thurmond liberal? He was a democrat until the 1960s, yes, but he was never ever a liberal. He became a Republican because he thought his party had become too liberal--specifically with regards to civil rights. Sorry, but you get a D- on today's history homework.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    Viva la Migra,

    I find it hard to swallow that this is information you're getting from your employer.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    I have to agree with Happy Valley Heretic. I found the Green Eggs and Ham reference terribly ironic. It proves the exact opposite point. People are afraid of Obamacare...they're told they will hate it...they don't want any part of it. In the end, however, if we are to follow Sen. Cruz's analogy, once they actually try it they will find they actually like it. That's exactly what Republicans are afraid of. If it is implemented and it's successful, this will be a badge Democrats can wear for decades. If it was actually doomed to failure, however, Republicans could use that to their advantage for a very long time.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Democrats are not in the center and neither is Obama............Cruz gave a great speech and almost eclipsed left of center, liberal Senator Strom Thurmond's speech and filibuster to block Civil Right for Blacks given back in 1957! But when it comes to speech's ...Obama's resist we much speech was a classic!

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    The problem with Obamacare are the lies told to sell it to the American people. We were told that if we had a health care plan from an employer we liked, we could keep it.

    We just attended an initial company meeting prior to our upcoming open enrollment, and it turns out that in 2014, all of the plans previously offered by our employer are no longer available. Instead we will be allowed to choose from Exchange-like "bronze" "silver" "gold" plans. It appears that there will be no difference in coverage offered from these plans compared to the same plans on the exchange.

    We were also told that our premiums would be based on age, zip code, whether a family member smoked, just like the exchange plans. Just the zip code factor means some of my co-workers will be paying $400 more than others for the same plan, simply based on where they live.

    We don't have any plan details yet, but from what I've seen on some of the state health care sites, they will be high-deductible ($2000 per person), with much higher office and prescription costs.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    I seldom have anything good to say about Fox News, but it was a delight when Chris Wallace exposed Ted Cruz' initial ignorance of Senate rule 22 which allows a simple majority vote on the amendment pertaining to funding of the Affordable Care Act.

  • RedneckLefty St. George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    Meanwhile, the rate tables for the Obamacare exchanges are out today, and the costs are even lower than originally anticipated.

  • RedneckLefty St. George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    As an ardent democrat, I can't tell you how much it warms my heart to see folks here calling McConnell, McCain, Graham, et. al., RINO.

    When the fringe takes over the center and the center leaves, you know your party is in its twilight years. I only hope the extremists continue to push the GOP to the right -- away from the rest of America.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    jp3 said: "Wow, that's quite offensive of Cruz to compare this battle to the battle against the Nazis--a slap in the face to every Jew and western ally who died at the hands of Hitler's regime. Not even in the same book."

    Texas writes their own history books. Don't your remember how all Hitler wanted, was to give healthcare to the German people?

    He also used "Green Egg's and Ham" in a silly parody, apparently unaware of how that story ended.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    Hatch is no different than Arlen Specter, MCConnell, Croyn, McCain, Graham and Jeb Bush........if these RINOs are defeated in their re-elections, then this speech was worth vetting them out as the supporters of Obamacare that they are.......

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 25, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    Meanwhile. Labrador's bill gets no attention.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 25, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    It's not a proud moment when the floor of the U.S. Senate is the stage for political theatrics. The people they represent have a right to expect members of Congress to take their jobs seriously.

  • rightascension Provo, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:48 a.m.

    Senators Cruz and Lee made their fortunes and got their benefits. Why should they care about the general welfare of the poor? One wonders if either Cruz or Senator Lee read "promote gneral welfare" in the opening line of the Constitution.

  • Leo Femedlers El Paso, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    The senator from Illinois promised he would change America if elected. That he has...

    It is extremely unfortunate, no--tragic, that the rest of the GOP aren't standing with this good man and fighting for the freedoms that so many fought and died for.

    Senator Hatch, I'm ashamed of you.

  • cocosweet Sandy, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    So Lee's foot was run over when he was a child huh... Bet his parents healthcare covered him.

  • jp3 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    Wow, that's quite offensive of Cruz to compare this battle to the battle against the Nazis--a slap in the face to every Jew and western ally who died at the hands of Hitler's regime. Not even in the same book.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:42 a.m.

    Oatmeal: I think you mean Obamacare will not be defunded. Obamacare does not equate to healthcare. They are not the same.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:24 a.m.

    The filibuster that isn't a filibuster. Healthcare will not be defunded.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:06 a.m.

    We are watching the destruction of the GOP. Hundreds of thousands of people stayed home in the 2012 election because Romney was too moderate. The Old Guard GOP is saying we need to reach out to left-leaning people.
    In the end, this is the Big Tent idea that has only resulted in the GOP losing elections.
    So, you either believe the GOP needs to stand by its conservative platform (which is what Cruz and Lee are doing) or you need to go along with the Washington ruling class (which is what Hatch is doing).
    The old guard has the campaign money and the conservatives have the grassroots foot soldiers.
    Forming a third party or not supporting the old guard candidates yield the same results. The left wins either way.
    The GOP deserves to die anyway.