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Published: Saturday, Sept. 21 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Sadly, we're missing our chance to provide everyone health care. A single payer health care system. And people will have access to your health information in this system. They're delivering your health care, why shouldn't they? Not the IRS, mind you, but the health care system. Of course it won't happen; there's a nose to be shot of to spite our metaphorical face. But, if we'd get over ourselves, we'd figure out there's a way to make it work. We just won't have it if someone else might benefit, too.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Ann, we are now to the point were people need to start offering alternative solutions, not just criticism.
The law can be amended. We now have something in place. Lets work with it and structure it to work for us.
I daresay NO law about universal health care will make everyone happy, mistakes will be made. How we deal with them is how the system will be judged.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Ann,

Couple points

Obamacare is not inferior to someone who currently has no healthcare.

If you have insurance today, you will not go on Obamacare. Just like our congressmen.

I think that Obamacare could be much better and wish our congressmen would come to the table in earnest to make improvements, but alas, that is not the case. Can you name any GOP proposed legislation that has attempted to make improvements? Or any piece of GOP proposed legislation that has attempted to Replace Obamacare?

It is reasonable to have discussions about Obamacare. It is reasonable to dislike Obamacare. There are lots of problems with Obamacare.

How about we discuss those instead of writing factually challenged letters to the editor.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

Wow. These letters to the editor get more ridiculous everyday. I'm sure Jay Leno is stepping down because he got in trouble for making jokes about obamacare.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Does anyone still think that ObamaCare will provide health CARE for everyone? Haven't they read the articles in the Deseret News? Haven't they read about those who will not be covered? Haven't they read about those who will received less than adequate care? Haven't they read about the hundreds of thousands of workers whose hours have been reduced because of ObamaCare? Haven't they read about the soaring insurance premiums that cost $2,500 MORE per family per year, not $2,500 LESS, as Obama promised?

When people believe a politician and ignore the facts, they're will be duped. "Duped" is related to "duplicity". "Duplicity" means "deceitful". Obama has been deceitful when he's campaigned for ObamaCare. That program is not at all related to the ObamaCare that you and I will have to pay for if the Democrats continue to reject the will of the people. Even Obama doesn't want his program to be implemented - until after the next election. If it were such a marvelous program, wouldn't he want it in place BEFORE the election. Wouldn't he want the people to know what his program has done?

ray vaughn
Ogden, UT

I was opposed to the Iraq was of 2003 but was not exempt from my tax money going to that war. If you are a citizen of this country sometimes your money goes to pay for things you do not support.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

These letters are getting more and more ridiculous....

Jay Leno makes jokes about Obama, Obamacare, Republicans, Democrats, religion, Science, Muslims, Catholics, Mormons, Jews, Mexicans, ...it doesn't matter.
He is a comedian!
That is his JOB for crying out loud!

Besides,
Jay Leno announced his RETIREMENT [again, for a 2nd time] months ago.
He is not getting "fired" for making jokes about Obamacare.

As I said - ridiculous.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

This letter is one of the most misinformed letters I have seen in a very long time. Medicare is in the shape it is in because your Utah representatives along with their republican cronies voted to force Medicare to pay retail for drugs with NO authority to negotiate prices like the VA or any other nation. These "brilliant" economists also

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I agree Obamacare should be repealed. However, ONLY if it is replaced by the health care system needed, wanted and possible for America called Single Payer U. S. government Health care.

Without any reservation, the government of the United States of America will pay for any and all needed and proper medical care for every American citizen and every person within the area of control of the United States of America.

This amendment to the Constitution as created and voted into being by the people of the United States of America to be effective as of NOW.

Alfred
Pheonix, AZ

Hutterite
"But, if we'd get over ourselves, we'd figure out there's a way to make it work."

It won't work because...

There's not enough money in the entire world to provide all the healthcare that every US citizen wants or can use. Thus, someone has to go without. With the healthcare industry as it's currently constituted those who go without are the poor and/or can't get insurance for some reason. With government provided single payer healthcare the poor will get their care... but someone else has to go without. And that someone is the elderly. When people get old and need serious healthcare they will have to go without. The government will decide that because there is limited resources and someone has to go without. It's called (by Sarah Palin) 'death panels.' Obama told us early on how it works... 'if you're old and need extensive healthcare, just go home and take a painkiller.'

Right now, if someone in a country with government healthcare (like England) needs care and don't want to wait in line, they comes to the US. Where will they (and US citizens) go under Obamacare?

Curmedgeon
Bountiful, UT

"Next year, Medicare patients will receive sub prime care."

HUH? While I am not a fan of ObamaCare, I cannot wrap my mind around the above comment. Patients on Medicare get the same services from the same providers (hospitals, doctors, etc) as Patients on Blue Cross or any other insurance company. The only difference is where that Medicare is paying the bill rather than another company.

Mr. Bean
Pheonix, AZ

@Curmedgeon:
"Patients on Medicare get the same services from the same providers (hospitals, doctors, etc) as Patients on Blue Cross or any other insurance company."

Obama allocated big chucks of Medicare to Obama care. With less resources, services will, of necessity, be cut back. Even now, some Doctors will not take new Medicare patients. What will it be like with Medicare funding redirected to Obamacare?

one old man
Ogden, UT

This letter is a prime example of what happens when a person overdoses on hate radio.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

Healthcare for all? Right. 30,000,000 people will still not be covered

wrz
Pheonix, AZ

@high school fan:
"Healthcare for all? Right. 30,000,000 people will still not be covered"

Probably true. Many young people will pay the penalty (oops) tax rather than buy insurance. And, since 'preexisting condition' is out the door, many will not buy until they are sick and need it. Which means insurance companies will either go bust or have to significantly jack the premiums up.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

Afred from AZ, We are already spending enough money on healthcare to pay for a single payer healthcare system. Medicare administration costs 5% your for profit healthcare system is paying close to 35%. As a nation we are paying the highest percentage of our GNP for healthcare of any industrialized nation and yet the results are at the bottom. We have the means we just don't have the will. It will, I mean will without a doubt, come back to haunt you.

Alfred
Pheonix, AZ

@ugottabkidn:
"Afred from AZ, We are already spending enough money on healthcare to pay for a single payer healthcare system."

So, why not keep what we have?

"Medicare administration costs 5% your for profit healthcare system is paying close to 35%."

The Correct overhead numbers are 3% (Medicare) and 12% (private insurance.) And the reason for the difference is, Medicare serves the elderly who incur much, much more healthcare costs resulting in a significantly lower overhead percentage.

"As a nation we are paying the highest percentage of our GNP for healthcare of any industrialized nation and yet the results are at the bottom."

That's because of Americans' lifestyle of low physical activities and overeating. This will all change under Obamacare as the government will tell you what and how much you can eat and what kind of exercises you must engage in... something like the life inmates experience in jails.

"It will, I mean will without a doubt, come back to haunt you."

Obamacare is already haunting millions of seniors who will be instructed to 'just go home and take a painkiller.' Obama's own words.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

After hearing all the voices for or against ObamaCare, I concluded that a Single Payer system was better than the alternatives. ObamaCare was well intentioned, but far too complex to succeed. There are too many special interest groups (Democrats, Republicans, Unions, Doctors, Hospitals, Health Insurance companies, young folks, old folks, and even states) for everything to click together. Murphy's Law has yet to be repealed, but neither should ObamaCare. However, it does require some major changes, and that will only happen if we have bipartison support.

UT Brit
London, England

@Alfred

"Right now, if someone in a country with government healthcare (like England) needs care and don't want to wait in line, they comes to the US. Where will they (and US citizens) go under Obamacare?"

Errr they just go to a private doctors in the UK. You do know we have public and private hospitals right.....well obviously not.

I do not know a single person who has been to the US for treatment. Please do research on other countries health care systems before commenting on them.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

Alfred, UT Brit has real experience, listen and learn. To add to your so called premise a fairly recent poll done in Canada 90% of Canadians would not scrape their system for ours. This shoots the myth that Canadians flock south. If you have ever truly experienced the before and after of the ACA then you would prefer the later, even with all it's flaws. Denial of healthcare for profit is not healthcare it's vulturous.

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