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Published: Friday, Sept. 20 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Again? Again. And again and again. Gunfire? Who's shooting? Innocents dive for cover, the clock ticks, loved ones wait in horror, cops and ambulances roll, officials try to explain.
From Virginia Tech to Fort Hood to Aurora to Newtown, with too many tragic stops in between, America again must confront a mass shooting at another seemingly safe place, this time the Navy Yard in Washington, blocks from the U.S. Capitol.

We must keep searching for answers.

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Again? Again. And again and again.
Look at the meds they are taking.
The FDA already acknowledges there is an increased risk [of violence and homicidal or suicidal tendencies], and already has them put a black box warning labels on them.

Read the labels.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Yes, we need to seek good answers.

And what is stopping us?

Money.

Money in the pockets of those who manufacture and sell weapons.

Fear in the minds of many who think they must have an arsenal to "protect" themselves from enemies, real or imagined.

And their lobby. The NRA.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

We're not actually looking for answers. We're not allowed to. Every time one of these things happens, a few suggestions come out and get shouted down, back to the status quo. And it gives us the same results, again and again.

JBT
Provo, UT

Even though 'one old man' is wrong about who to blame, he's right about Money being the big factor.
As for finding the 'answers', as long as people continue to blame Firearms as the cause, the 'answers' will never be found; and mass killings will continue to happen.
We live in a age where 'Political Correctness' outweighs the truth. Where it's more important to do whats 'popular' then to do whats Right. An age where no one is held accountable for their own actions.
As Colonel Jessep said "You cant handle the truth".... Well, he's right. We cant. Parents dont like to hear they are Bad parents. They dont like to hear they have bad kids. Its not the video game that caused the problem, its the parent that let the kid play the video game for hours that was the problem.
It's also not about the cops! I've gotten 20 tickets in my lifetime, and even spent a few days in jail. And as much as I blamed the cops, It was never their fault.
You want answers? Dig down in those areas you dont like to talk about at parties.

one old man
Ogden, UT

JBT is, unfortunately, largely correct in what he wrote above.

But I'll stick with my belief that one of the most difficult problems we face in finding solutions for our gun mess is the NRA.

one old man
Ogden, UT

In 2009, 30,797 Americans died in auto accidents.
In 2010, 31,076 Americans were killed by gunfire.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It's weird how urban liberals usually blame all gun issues on red-neck hicks. But the more urban the area you live in, the more chance you have of getting involved in these random shootings. They are happening in urban areas, not in the sticks (where most of the guns and the gun-nuts are supposed to be).

Just something to think about the next time you want to blame this all on the red-neck hicks who want their guns. Because it's mostly urban teens that are doing the shooting, not sportsmen or people who know what a gun is for and how to use it.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It's still a fact of life that the only way to stop a bad-guy with a gun... is a good-guy with a gun.

That good-guy can be a police officer, or an armed citizen, but if nobody ends the rampage it will just continue till they run out of ammunition.

The guy at the Navy Yard did his killing in less than 5 minutes. The police can't get there in less than 5 minutes.

IF they could first insure that they are going to be able to disarm the bad-guys... THEN I'd listen to the "more limits on self defense" people. But they can't. IF bad-guys can't get them legally they will get them illegally. THEN the only people who can't get a weapon for self defense are the good-guys.

It's not the gun that's the problem. It's the person with the gun. If you can't see that... you can't solve the problem.

one old man
Ogden, UT

It's still a fact of life that the only way to stop a bad-guy with a gun... is a good-guy with a gun

FALSE!

A much better way would be sensible laws. But that won't happen.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

@2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It's still a fact of life that the only way to stop a bad-guy with a gun... is a good-guy with a gun.

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Really?
Are you serious?

What kind of gun does Jesus [i.e., a GOOD-guy] pack 2 bits?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Open Minded,
RE: What kind of gun does Jesus pack...

Question: What bad-guy with a gun was Jesus stopping?

Did ye do it without a gun?

I said "the only way to stop a bad-guy with a gun is a good-guy with a gun".
Name the shooting rampage that wasn't eventually stopped with a gun (either the shooter's or someone who intervened).

The issues Jesus faced were not random shooters.

Do you seriously think Jesus could stop a lunatic's shooting rampage without a gun? Well... maybe HE could... But he's a little different than you and I. I think you or I would need a gun to stop a shooter.

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