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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 17 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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San Francisco, CA

Participation? Take personal responsibility? Create our own safety nets? Goodbye welfare state?

Good grief, what radical and crazy notions. (eye roll)

Can we import King Willem-Alexander across the ocean?

Columbus, OH

Let me get this straight, when the financial crisis hit, the Dutch implemented austerity measures, unlike neighboring France, Germany and Britain. Now, those three countries have recovered quite well, so the Dutch answer is...austerity? Awesome!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Personal responsibility?

The liberals are not going to like this

Lehi, UT

O king, o king, could you please come down and speak with a president who is trying to create a welfare state in our country, pleeaaaaase!!

Hyrum, UT

It would nice if the Dutch king would have a long talk with President Obama.

Apo, AE

The trouble with the personal responsibility message is that the welfare state has destroyed the country's ability for people to be responsible. Welfare states attack economies that force businesses and health care systems to close so no other options are left. It will take a long time to rebuild what welfare has destroyed in Holland.

Did the mighty king say anything about reducing taxes? NOPE! Taxes will still remain at 50%, the rate advertised to fund the welfare state. Now the people will still pay the money but get nothing for it. The state has to take personal responsibility before the people can. People who keep more of thier own money can rebuild thier economy. All else is lip service.


OHBU: recovering well in Britain, France and Germany? I don't know what reports you have read - probably liberal ones. Also not all "austerity" is created equal.

Fairview, UT

OHBU- Right! Recovery in Germany means the biggest share of low wage earners in the Eurozone with over 3 million people earning less than six Euros ($7.90) per hour. Nearly 7 million earn less than 8.50 Euros per hour.
France has gained much of their strength by privatizing much of their formerly government-run entities. That country faces the same concerns as the U.S. with much of the unemployment disguised since so many have dropped out of the labor pool.
Great Britain? What recovery?
EW- you certainly nailed this one.

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Well King Willem-Alexander, don't expect any visits from President Obama anytime soon. He will probably accuse you of being a T-Party member.

One of a Few
Layton, UT

Really, a King and his lovely and popular queen are announcing an end to the welfare state and the DN does not note the irony of this coming from the silver spooned aristocracy? Only, can be topped by loyal DN bloggers seeking for the King to come to the US. Thanks for making my day.

Diligent Dave
Logan, UT

Austerity without growth will never work. And growth in the economy cannot happen without growth in population. The major cause of economic recesion/depression, which the world has not really escaped since it appeared 2008/2009, is sub-replacement birth rates all advanced economies have had for many decades. Europe with an average TFT (Total Fertility Rate) of just 1.38 (that is 138 babies born per lifetime for every 200 adults, where 211 is needed just for exact replacement - and no growth) is the reason national finances are hurting so much.

Lack of marriage, lack of traditional families, where the mother stays at home, bears and raises a 'sufficient' number of children, is what is behind the problem. The decisions of politicians can greatly influence things. But it is what all of the many people in any nation do that makes all the difference. If people don't have enough children, there is no cure the government can offer to help.

Distant cousins visiting from Sweden have 3 children and currently just 1 grandchild. We have 9 children and currently 11 grandchildren. Whose economy is more likely to grow with those numbers?

Springville, UT

The King doesn't make laws. How is he going to back up his vague, toothless comments?

Tooele, UT

Re: "Dutch king: Say goodbye to welfare state, hello to personal responsibility"

The king merely announced the inevitable result of euro-style, nanny-state socialism. It's dead. It's rotting. But it's still polluting the world's air. The real people of Europe need to make it lie down and stop pretending it's anything but a zombie.

When a political culture enshrines grasping, venal sloth, rather than honest hard work as its ruling principle, its demise is imminent.

It remains to be seen whether the Dutch people can pull themselves out of the mire, but it's genuinely disheartening to see our own politically myopic "leaders" engaged in vote-buying scams that can do nothing but lead us to the same sticky end.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

I assume that the Netherlands may need this.

But to have it prescribed to them by a King who gets $1.1mm with the total upkeep for the monarchy being nearly $54mm is just too funny.

What does he know of sacrifice or personal responsibility? His "salary" is being cut by 1%. I suspect he will get by alright.

Again, the political changes may be very necessary. But having the monarch deliver the bad news is ironic in the extreme.

Mcallen, TX

The White House ain't going to like this kind of speech.

Political power comes from a dependent population. Not an educated/responsible one.

Alpine, UT

Will the King and Queen lead the way in exemplifying this national quest for personal responsibility?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The 'participation society'... what a quaint way of putting it. Like it.

Tremonton, UT

What a novel concept. People doing what they can for their well being, instead of depending upon someone else. Wait! Didn't we have a president that said something like that over 50 years ago? What were those words?

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
John F. Kennedy

Gasp! What? A Democratic President of the United States of America would utter such words? And one of the most popular presidents of the last 100 years! Could he really have suggested that people should contribute, instead of expecting to be cared for?

Do ya think that our current Democrat leadership would even whisper these words in the back halls of the White House? We could only dream and hope.

Burley, ID

This is what happens when you run out of other people's money.

tranquility base, 00

And the American T-party cheers as long as nobody cuts off their own social security and medicare!

Or did I miss the SS check burning at the last T-party rally?

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