Comments about ‘Early look at Obama's health law premiums: Average of $270 a month for 21-year-olds’

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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 4 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Boise, ID

Just met with my insurance agent. The cost for my small business should increase 30-40% next year. I and most of my employees will not get a tax break. This plan is great for those who aren't paying taxes. If you pay taxes, your premiums will probably go up. If you don't pay taxes, are on food stamps, and are living in federal housing, you will probably like the new plan.

Salt Lake City, UT

Okay, and what are the subsidies they would get (assuming they make below 3x the poverty line which is quite likely for someone not getting insurance through their employer) to help them pay for the insurance? It's really an inadequate analysis when you leave out important details...

Joe C
Sandy, UT

Since we're doing anecdotes today, as an employee of a large company(and tax payer), I don't expect any significant increases to my insurance premium.

Hayden, ID

Obamacare is nothing more than the largest entitlement scam in the history of the world. Free healthcare for millions while those who already pay their OWN healthcare insurance pays more, much more!

Hayden, ID

@ Joe C. You are just lucky so far. Speaking of anecdotes, millions of former full time employees are now part time employees, thanks to Obamacare! If you are one of the lucky ones that this has not happened to, where is your compassion for those it has happened to or the millions more that it will happen to?

Cedar Hills, UT

My son and his wife now pay $210 a month outside Obamacare. So much for the "affordable" part. expect this ugly thing to be a disaster for everyone ..with the exception of those who get it free.

Cedar Hills, UT

The article makes it sound like everyone should expect some sort of tax credit to reduce the premiums. If everyone is getting some sort of discount, then who's picking up the extra burden? That money has to come from somewhere.

clearfield, UT

Don't you just love this Obama plan. It's expensive enough to begin with and if you don't have enough money to buy it, you will get fined for not having it. What next, debtors prisons?

American Fork, UT

If only we'd have had the sense to go with a single payer system, and get rid of insurance entirely.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

how stupid does a 21 year old have to be to fork over $270/month when he can ride on mommy and daddy's policy with no money out of his pocket?

Obamacare is a lie.

DN Subscriber 2

Welcome to the socialist shell game where those who are not paying are promised "free stuff" and those who pay something are promised "subsidies" but those who are already paying and being taxed over and over will pay morel, to provide "free stuff" and subsidies.

Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend.

Not a single line of Obamacare is aimed at increasing the supply of health care providers, only at taking money from some people and giving it to others, and forcing healthy young people to buy a product they do not want, or need.

Mcallen, TX

The funds are coming from the same pool, except those who work, and have insurance, will be paying a more.

After all, those who work and earn money didn't do that on there own. Someone else did it.

Money needs to be redistributed, and everyone on the same level playing field.--Poverty, and dependence on government.

Salt Lake City, UT

Serves those 20 something's and younger right...they voted for this tool, twice! Unfortunately they will be paying for their stupidity long after Obama is gone....and the rich will pay higher premiums and not even notice. What's another $10 grand to a guy who makes over $250000 a year or more......

Obamacare was supposed to insure the 30 million obamaphone crowd who couldn't afford insurance because they are on the dole and refuse to work anyways......now we still will have 30 million uninsured and the DMV-like govt employee deciding for you whether your premature infant or your grandmother goes to intensive care or the funeral parlor.......and Obama and his ilk call themselves progressives!

Taylorsville, UT

Those on private or group insurance policies better be prepared to lose the group insurance, conversion to Obamacare system is becoming mandatory to fund it.

Private insurance is a threat to Obama care funding so its in the process of forcing private insurance out of business by attrition, meaning people will have to pay for 2 insurance plans to keep private insurance and Obamacare. You can keep it but you have to buy the Obamacare as well. People seem to think Obama care will a low co-pay 100% of cost plan but not so. Obama care has fixed payments and no restrictions on billing costs by doctors and hospitals.

And the Obamacare is very expensive, nearly 3 times the cost of private insurance plans. Hospitals are not able to compute the billing cost and limits to Obama care and plan to send bills to patients who will have to file medical bills with IRS and Obamacare as a claim.

Its also very true that non tax filing workers will escape the system until they need health care and will be fined and reported to the IRS collections.

Health care will become extinct as Dr's and hospitals close their doors.

Roy, UT

The sentiments of comments so far express little support for Obama-care. A sense of dread comes as this new healthcare system is better understood...I still take issue with the incredible Congress who approved it with the "just vote for it now, and read it later," advice taken. Incredible that any responsible person would have voted for this. Incredible "dumbing down" of America in general. There are consequences to be paid. Yet folks don't support Mike Lee's effort to overturn Obama-care...again, just incredible.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Washington is making this up as they go along.
There is no way they can pick up the huge burden of costs coming from the previously uninsurable without it costing healthy people much more.
This redistribution of wealth will not go well, especially since the economy stinks.

Buena Vista, VA

If you believe anything Obama or his administration/regime say, then I have some shovel ready jobs to sell you! (And some electric cars, solar panels, etc.)

not here

Hey to all you GOP'ers on here talking trash. Just what has your party offered in it's place? Oh that's right NOTHING. So here you all sit and do nothing but whine and cry, and bad mouth some one that's trying to some good. So again what is your plan? And how come it has never seen the light of day. Oh that right you have NOTHING.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Obamacare was designed to fail.

Those of us who are,(and always have been)buying our own insurance will see our rates go up, and up, and up.......until eventually we will be BEGGING Obama for a solution to the problem he created. This will happen because: 1)young people (over 26)won't even buy the cheap insurance. Why should they, they're mostly healthy? 2)those people who always said they "couldn't afford" insurance will continue to say those same things, even WITH subsidies. IF they get sick they will go to the emergency rooms as a "john doe" just like all the illegal immigrants. Through our insurance we will CONTINUE to subsidize them by paying higher insurance premiums.
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in Obamacare that will lower medical costs.

I support Sen. Lee (and others)who are trying to de-fund Obamacare. We're wasting billions on start-up costs for Obamacare when the system will never work.

Highland, UT

I am not a republican or a democrat, but sometimes having a program is worse than one that does not work. The issue is not republican or democrat it is the culture of America.

We are here because of Greed and corruption.

Greed from the wealthy and Greed from the those who feel a sense of entitlement when things go wrong. Corruption from a health care system that doesn't get it.

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