Published: Wednesday, Sept. 4 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
Just met with my insurance agent. The cost for my small business should
increase 30-40% next year. I and most of my employees will not get a tax break.
This plan is great for those who aren't paying taxes. If you pay taxes,
your premiums will probably go up. If you don't pay taxes, are on food
stamps, and are living in federal housing, you will probably like the new plan.
Okay, and what are the subsidies they would get (assuming they make below 3x the
poverty line which is quite likely for someone not getting insurance through
their employer) to help them pay for the insurance? It's really an
inadequate analysis when you leave out important details...
Since we're doing anecdotes today, as an employee of a large company(and
tax payer), I don't expect any significant increases to my insurance
Obamacare is nothing more than the largest entitlement scam in the history of
the world. Free healthcare for millions while those who already pay their OWN
healthcare insurance pays more, much more!
@ Joe C. You are just lucky so far. Speaking of anecdotes, millions of former
full time employees are now part time employees, thanks to Obamacare! If you are
one of the lucky ones that this has not happened to, where is your compassion
for those it has happened to or the millions more that it will happen to?
My son and his wife now pay $210 a month outside Obamacare. So much for the
"affordable" part. expect this ugly thing to be a disaster for everyone
..with the exception of those who get it free.
The article makes it sound like everyone should expect some sort of tax credit
to reduce the premiums. If everyone is getting some sort of discount, then
who's picking up the extra burden? That money has to come from somewhere.
Don't you just love this Obama plan. It's expensive enough to begin
with and if you don't have enough money to buy it, you will get fined for
not having it. What next, debtors prisons?
If only we'd have had the sense to go with a single payer system, and get
rid of insurance entirely.
how stupid does a 21 year old have to be to fork over $270/month when he can
ride on mommy and daddy's policy with no money out of his pocket?Obamacare is a lie.
Welcome to the socialist shell game where those who are not paying are promised
"free stuff" and those who pay something are promised
"subsidies" but those who are already paying and being taxed over and
over will pay morel, to provide "free stuff" and subsidies.Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend.Not a single line of Obamacare is aimed at increasing the supply of
health care providers, only at taking money from some people and giving it to
others, and forcing healthy young people to buy a product they do not want, or
The funds are coming from the same pool, except those who work, and have
insurance, will be paying a more.After all, those who work and earn
money didn't do that on there own. Someone else did it.Money
needs to be redistributed, and everyone on the same level playing
field.--Poverty, and dependence on government.
Serves those 20 something's and younger right...they voted for this tool,
twice! Unfortunately they will be paying for their stupidity long after Obama
is gone....and the rich will pay higher premiums and not even notice.
What's another $10 grand to a guy who makes over $250000 a year or
more...... Obamacare was supposed to insure the 30 million
obamaphone crowd who couldn't afford insurance because they are on the dole
and refuse to work anyways......now we still will have 30 million uninsured and
the DMV-like govt employee deciding for you whether your premature infant or
your grandmother goes to intensive care or the funeral parlor.......and Obama
and his ilk call themselves progressives!
Those on private or group insurance policies better be prepared to lose the
group insurance, conversion to Obamacare system is becoming mandatory to fund
it. Private insurance is a threat to Obama care funding so its in
the process of forcing private insurance out of business by attrition, meaning
people will have to pay for 2 insurance plans to keep private insurance and
Obamacare. You can keep it but you have to buy the Obamacare as well. People
seem to think Obama care will a low co-pay 100% of cost plan but not so. Obama
care has fixed payments and no restrictions on billing costs by doctors and
hospitals.And the Obamacare is very expensive, nearly 3 times the
cost of private insurance plans. Hospitals are not able to compute the billing
cost and limits to Obama care and plan to send bills to patients who will have
to file medical bills with IRS and Obamacare as a claim.Its also
very true that non tax filing workers will escape the system until they need
health care and will be fined and reported to the IRS collections.Health care will become extinct as Dr's and hospitals close their doors.
The sentiments of comments so far express little support for Obama-care. A sense
of dread comes as this new healthcare system is better understood...I still take
issue with the incredible Congress who approved it with the "just vote for
it now, and read it later," advice taken. Incredible that any responsible
person would have voted for this. Incredible "dumbing down" of America
in general. There are consequences to be paid. Yet folks don't support
Mike Lee's effort to overturn Obama-care...again, just incredible.
Washington is making this up as they go along.There is no way they can
pick up the huge burden of costs coming from the previously uninsurable without
it costing healthy people much more.This redistribution of wealth will not
go well, especially since the economy stinks.
If you believe anything Obama or his administration/regime say, then I have some
shovel ready jobs to sell you! (And some electric cars, solar panels, etc.)
Hey to all you GOP'ers on here talking trash. Just what has your party
offered in it's place? Oh that's right NOTHING. So here you all sit
and do nothing but whine and cry, and bad mouth some one that's trying to
some good. So again what is your plan? And how come it has never seen the light
of day. Oh that right you have NOTHING.
Obamacare was designed to fail.Those of us who are,(and always have
been)buying our own insurance will see our rates go up, and up, and
up.......until eventually we will be BEGGING Obama for a solution to the problem
he created. This will happen because: 1)young people (over 26)won't even
buy the cheap insurance. Why should they, they're mostly healthy? 2)those
people who always said they "couldn't afford" insurance will
continue to say those same things, even WITH subsidies. IF they get sick they
will go to the emergency rooms as a "john doe" just like all the illegal
immigrants. Through our insurance we will CONTINUE to subsidize them by paying
higher insurance premiums.There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in Obamacare that
will lower medical costs.I support Sen. Lee (and others)who are
trying to de-fund Obamacare. We're wasting billions on start-up costs for
Obamacare when the system will never work.
I am not a republican or a democrat, but sometimes having a program is worse
than one that does not work. The issue is not republican or democrat it is the
culture of America.We are here because of Greed and corruption. Greed from the wealthy and Greed from the those who feel a sense of
entitlement when things go wrong. Corruption from a health care system that
doesn't get it.
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