Published: Tuesday, Sept. 3 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
" If I am able to convey a message that softens even one heart towards the
benefits and blessings of family life"Uh... people seeking
same-sex marriages ARE looking for the benefits and blessings of family life so
get out of the way.
I find it funny that these people are so concerned about the children, but fail
to fight causes that have actually been demonstrated to have a negative impact
on children: child abuse, poor sex education leading to unwanted pregnancies
and single parents, skyrocketing divorce rates, etc. No, they're going to
fight gay marriage. If you don't like it, blame the straight
parents--they're the ones having all the gay children!By the
way, it is absolutely an inevitability. An ever-larger portion of the
population, especially amongst the youth, have recognized that such
discrimination is unconstitutional. While they may not believe it is right,
they recognize it is not their place to legislate their beliefs on others.
"If I am able to convey a message that softens even one heart towards the
benefits and blessings of family life..."Ms. Roylance, that is
the argument _for_ marriage equality.
This is the exact same story that ran five days ago. There is no
body of evidence that supports heterosexual parents over homosexual parents.
There are some studies (the Australian one, for instance) that indicate children
raised by same-sex parents actually excel over children raised by heterosexual
parents in some areas, are even with them in other areas, and fall behind them
in no areas. What every study does show is that children do better
with committed - preferably married - parents who are involved, regardless of
the genders of those parents. No one has ever been able to provide
a legally acceptable reason for prohibiting same-sex marriage nor for denying
children being raised by same-sex parents the benefits of married parents. This article was specious on August 29th and, since nothing has changed,
it is specious today.
It's not inevitable but it's a good idea who's time has come. So
let's make it inevitable.
Thinking about same sex marriage I came to the realization that the successes
for the same sex crowd are coming at a time in American life when marriage
itself is becoming less and less important in general. Ironic that so many
opposite sex couples are just forgoing marriage and living together and doing
the domestic partnership thing while the same sex crowd is so anxious to get
married. What a mixed up country we are living in. Signs of the times I guess.
First, let my qualify what I am about to say by acknowledging that a good
homosexual parent is usually better than a bad heterosexual parent, married or
unmarried. Additionally, a good homosexual parent is undoubtedly better than no
parent.I know of a young gay man who accepted a boy from an
orphanage in the Ukraine (I’m not sure if it was an official U.S.
adoption). The orphanage was definitely a bad place for the boy, and his
opportunities and care will be much better with a caring parent in America.
This young man’s mother has assumed the female role, to help this boy grow
up with both a man and a woman in his life, and the opportunity to know a good
mother.But, both of these examples are exceptions to the better
rule, in my opinion. Without going into specific studies, I generally believe
children have a greater opportunity to thrive in a home with a married mother
and father. It is in society’s best interest to encourage that
relationship, because children are our future.
I have lived a long life and have observed many things, good and bad. What is
our goal in life, to make the world a better place for our children or a place
where they merely exist? I say unequivocally that both boys and girls are much
better off raised in a home with a female nurturing mother and a steadfast
worthy masculine father. That is what we really should be working hard to
accomplish, not justifying our own selfish desires.
Same-sex marriage has only been legal in the entire world since 2001, and in the
U.S. since 2004. In social science terms, that’s pretty new. So new that
there hasn’t been enough time to show how it affects children in the long
run. On the other hand, decades of research show that children do best with a
married Father and Mother in the home. While it's true that not
every couple has children, every child does have a Mother and a Father.
That's how they came to be. Same-sex marriage automatically
“divorces” children from one of the natural parents who created
"Same sex marriage is not inevitable."Yes. It is.
The IRS will now accept ss couples with a marriage certificate as married filing
jointly. That means Utah faces a real quandary. The ss couple who move from
California to Utah will file federal taxes jointly. That means Utah tax
authority will have to recognize that status. That is LEGAL recognition, folks.
Utah's position on this issue is already a dead letter.
@Susan Roylance --"...children have a greater opportunity to
thrive in a home with a married mother and father. ..."You
can't go into "specific studies", because there ARE no real studies
showing that children do better in straight homes than in gay homes. Yes,
I'm familiar with Regnerus' "study" -- which was a laughable
and obvious attempt to bolster existing biases.Every reputable
professional group of child-development experts in this country SUPPORTS gay
marriage. They support it because they recognize that children grow up just fine
in gay-led homes.These groups include:American Academy
of PediatricsAmerican Academy of Child and Adolescent PsychiatryAmerican Academy of Family PhysiciansAmerican Psychiatric AssociationAmerican Psychological AssociationNational Association of Social
WorkersThey all SUPPORT gay marriage.From the AAP's
position statement: “There is an emerging consensus, based on extensive
review of the scientific literature, that children growing up in households
headed by gay men or lesbians are not disadvantaged in any significant respect
relative to children of heterosexual parents" and "“
‘Marriage strengthens families and benefits child development".Everyone who thinks children are important should SUPPORT gay marriage.
Marriage encourages stable families -- and stable families help children!
@Kei --,"Same-sex marriage has only been legal in the entire
world since 2001"False.. -- Gay marriages have been
recognized in various societies for thousands of years."decades
of research show... "False. -- Research has shown
that children do best in stable homes with two parents. Research has NEVER shown
that the genders of those two parents makes a difference."Same-sex marriage automatically “divorces”
children...."False.-- Gay couples are not stealing
children from happy heterosexual homes. 1. Adopting children --
Thousands of children in the US spend years in the foster system, simply because
there aren't enough homes available for them. Their parents are already
gone. Adoption by gay couples HELPS these children.2. Using
surrogacy or in vitro fertilization -- These children wouldn't even EXIST
without the gay couple, so it's meaningless to claim that they are being
stolen from straight homes.3. raising children from previous
relationships -- The parents of these children were already separated. Once
again, there is no happy straight home to go back to.4. gay couples
raise children with or without marriage. Denying marriage to those couples
won't stop them from raising children.Marriage encourages
stable families. Gay marriage helps children!
Kei: " On the other hand, decades of research show that children do best
with a married Father and Mother in the home."That's a
faulty conclusion. The studies you are looking at only assumed the possibility
of single parent, or mother-father homes. The more recent research has found
that the positive advantages laid out in those studies is not because of
heterosexuality, but the presence of two parents and a stable home. Gay
marriage fulfills both of those requirements.
@Kei:"While it's true that not every couple has children, every
child does have a Mother and a Father. That's how they came to be. Same-sex
marriage automatically “divorces” children from one of the natural
parents who created them."That is a good point.. Technically, a
child living with one parent and the parent's gay partner has probably not
been 'taken' by force from the other parent, that child is in a state
where he/she has been divorced from a birth parent.And I would like
to add that blessing a friendship, long-term living relationship, etc between
two or more people is all fine and dandy. But people's friendships does
not deserve the sanction of the government. The reason for giving marriage
between a man and a woman a special status is society's way to state that
children should be raised by their father and their mother in a stable
household. It is a powerful tool to fight poverty.
@ Susan Roylance: Your beliefs are not valid reasons for making laws. There is
not a single fact that supports your opinion - in fact, all the facts indicate
that your actions are harmful to children. Additionally, as your
comment on the story acknowledges in a very backhand way, your column is based
on a false dichotomy.The choice is not heterosexual parents or
homosexual parents. The choice is whether or not children being raised by
homosexual parents deserve the same advantages of married parents that children
being raised by heterosexual parents have.No one has ever presented
a reason why children being raised by homosexual parents should not have married
parents.No one has ever presented a reason why it is better for a child to
be raised by a single straight parent than a single gay parent. You
may claim a concern for children, but your actions belie your words and show
what your real priorities are. The fact that you cannot make a reality based
case to support both beliefs shows the falsity of your position. There are no legally valid reasons to prohibit same-sex marriage and harm
children being raised by same-sex parents.
Contrary to your view, it is now considered hate speech to say anything adverse
towards the GLBT community. Further, the media has taken a very strong
anti-Christian stance.Those two situations, to me, provide
sufficient support to the belief that same-sex marriage is inevitable. The good,
but easily swayed people of Utah will soon embrace and endorse it as well. Even
the LDS Church's leadership has shown weak knees on the issue of special
rights and privileges for the GLBT community. As I said before, the day is
coming when the gay lifestyle will be endorsed by the people of Utah.
@ MapleDon: Contrary to your statement, the media - this paper and many others
included - very frequently have pro-Christian articles and still have a very
strong public following. Additionally, I noticed that your comment was posted
even though hate speech is disallowed by the rules of this paper.Nothing in your statement resembles reality.And the fact that
posters such as yourself have to result to blatant misrepresentation of the
facts is the number one reason why equal right for LGBT individuals are
inevitable - no one can give a logical, valid, factually correct reason why they
@Tekaka --"The reason for giving marriage between a man and a
woman a special status is society's way to state that children should be
raised by their father and their mother in a stable household. "If this were true, then infertile couples would not be allowed to marry.If this were true, then couples who chose not to have children would not
be allowed to marry.Neither of those things happens.Guess why."It is a powerful tool to fight poverty."Marriage is a powerful tool to fight poverty. I agree. And that
principle applies to gay marriages just as much as it does to straight
re:SusanRoylance" I generally believe children have a greater
opportunity to thrive in a home with a married mother and father. It is in
society’s best interest to encourage that relationship, because children
are our future.Great.Let's start with
reducing/preventing unplanned pregnancies through education and contraceptives.
Can we agree on that? Secondly, what to do with the 400,000
children growing up in foster care temporarily or permanently--some of whom age
out of the system? There are many young people in the foster care system
because they self-identify as LGBT. I would like to see
conservatives launch major initiatives toward these problems.
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