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Published: Sunday, Sept. 1 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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george of the jungle
goshen, UT

If morals is manners and intentions. What is the intention. Imagine making good memories. I have to many regrets I don't like to think about.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Karl Polanyi pointed out in "The Great Transformation" that while the unregulated market resulted in unprecedented wealth, its continuance would result in the destruction of man's habitation. This is but another example.

jeanie
orem, UT

I agree with this article.

I was a little surprised at "the shock" of people in the industry over this latest incident. The message that many in our society seem to push is that there should be no lines and those that would support drawing lines are backward prudes that would have The David clothed. Apparently even these people feel there are lines that are at least shocking when crossed.

The first step is don't tune in, teach our children what truley makes them lovable and important. The second step is to recognize dangerous sociatial norms and actively work to change them or society leaves parents to fight an uphill and sometimes loosing battle that everyone pays the price for eventually.

We may not agree exactly where to draw the line, but where it is currently drawn is obviously not healthy.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It seems like just about everything in our world is judged in the superlative. The word like fastest, highest, longest, biggest, best, hottest coldest just to name a few, are to be striven toward. Even their counter parts are pursued. For the most part we keep records just so we will know when they are exceeded.

Not so with the use of sex to sell nearly every commercial product. Although we see the gradual growth in the use of sex we don’t really have any measurements to record the progress and set records. Sex is not alone, other things might include the visual arts, music, food and other things where the effect may vary from individual to individual.

The common denominator in nearly everything is the commercial thread that dominates the reason for controlling the minds of others. And if we would solve the problem that we have with these things, we must understand the whole problem.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

"Karl Polanyi pointed out in "The Great Transformation" that while the unregulated market resulted in unprecedented wealth, its continuance would result in the destruction of man's habitation. This is but another example."

Bingo. I totally agree. When I was growing up I was surrounded by John Birchers. Everything they feared was a commie conspiracy, they feared the county's incorporation was a step to one-wide government. "People will be getting shot in the streets." They also felt that God would destroy us because of our sins.

On the other side was communism. "Capitalism will fail because of its excesses."

It ends up they were both right. What better way for God to destroy us than to permit our economic system to collapse? It isn't the Koch Brothers who are the "excesses of capitalism". It is the modern media, Hollywood, MTV, CNN, Fox news.

And we have happily running along giving them our money so we can get a little bit more cheap titillation. (Geez! If we are going to destroy our economic system, cant' we do better than Miley Cyrus?)

The present system is great, when it fails, it is all our own dang fault.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

Enough already! Miley wants attention, and it is the people who claim to disagree with her behavior that are giving her all of it!

Stop obsessing!

dwayne
Provo, UT

I cant respond to this op-ed in the manner that it deserves because the people who wrote it are the co-workers of the people who moderate this forum and my comment would never be approved by them if I told them the truth about the kind of people they and their co-workers/friends are and used the appropriate word choice to describe the disgusting attitudes they have but I will point out that nothing was wrong with Miley Cyrus's performance.

I enjoyed it and just because horrible people like the writers of this op-ed disapprove means nothing since we disapprove of the disgusting attitude and opinions of the people who wrote it. If you dont like what she did maybe you and your families who arent good people can choose to go about your pathetic lives being jerks while our families get what we want. If what she did shouldnt be on TV than consider what it would be like if those of us who dont like the evil opinions expressed in this op-ed may some day decide you cant print the garbage that goes through your minds.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

How is it everybody gets bent out of shape over Miley Cyrus but put up which churches who Goad people into living a sexless life, under the guise of make your life miserable but in doing so you'll be pleasing God. this is an emotional prison, a prison of the mind every bit as much as drugs or alcohol.

On NPR they give an account of a priest who felt trapped in this lifestyle he was very unhappy but didn't want to displease God. If I had to choose between my child going through a Miley Cyrus faze or being brainwashed into living a sexless life I would choose the Miley Cyrus lifestyle.

idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

Dwayne

Got fired by DN, huh?

I can't imagine why.

dwayne
Provo, UT

Cjb,

Some people dont understand mental, emotional and sexual abuse because what is happening to Miley Cyrus and others is a form of sexual, mental and emotional violence and abuse and it is the people who attack her for doing nothing wrong and who are trying to paint her as somehow being a bad person are perverts and predators of the worst kind.

We are faced with a serious crisis in this country and these perverts have had their minds perverted into thinking that a song and an expression of who she is or wants to be is somehow wrong. They dont care how she feels or if reading their nasty op-eds causes her to kill herself because of their opinions about how she is bad because she is not as twisted as their parents raised them. Those of us who have lost people because of people like this would actually prefer if they were the ones who would die. To all the young women out there reading this garbage about Miley. Dont let these people do this to you too and most certainly dont kill yourself because of these evil people

mytymouse09
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

It is disturbing to see how too many celebrities that started out innocent enough have ruined their lives with drugs, sex, alcohol, etc. I'm guessing they couldn't handle the fame, money, and power of their status -- what a shame.

A few postings to this article that I find a bit strange with the hatred in their words, and casual attitude (even acceptance) of distasteful "entertainment". What happened to entertainment that was uplifting, and made you feel good -- not titillating. Yes, we all can choose what type of entertainment we expose ourselves to, but it seems that the type of entertainment I prefer (clean humor, respecting Deity, romance without sex, etc) is getting harder and harder to find, so I don't watch much TV, instead watch DVD's that I can select.

I would hope this has been a wakeup call for Miley, and other entertainers, that there are many of us out here who do not appreciate smut.

JSB
Sugar City, ID

We haven't had TV for years. It is trash and I don't want to waste my time. But, I would like to know who the sponsors for this filth are just so I can avoid buying their product. If a list of the worst offenders got published, the backlash against them could be so strong that trashy shows in the future might not be able to get sponsors.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

JSB.

Right on!

If we could get merchants and businessmen to post and adhere to their mission in life, religion, liberal, conservative, male, female, republican or democrat, we wouldn’t have to worry about fixing the voting system we could vote with our dollars.

Of course, we might have some sleazy guys that would lie about their true nature just to sell their products.

idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

Dwayne

So let me get this straight. So this spoiled brat who craves attention, can't make it on talent alone, so she peddles sleaze to compensate, and those who call her on it are the perverts that you wish would die.

Seriously, you don't find anything wrong with that line of thinking?

icanhasopinion
spanish fork, UT

I agree that in some public forums such as the mall, stores, billboards and such there is a concern, but in Utah I don't yet see much. outside of Utah there seems much more. there is also a serious issue with types of ads that appear on the web when going to normal high traffics web sites for news and such. again. it seems of course to depend on the site. in the case of popular media such as music, tv, movies,books, etc. I don't believe the comparison to having children play in a muddy street is fair. these are not like the public street. I have no problem with my children. Nobody 'needs' tv or music or radio or movies. We stream what we want when we want. we buy what music we want. our family is simply not exposed to these things. That is simply by choice.

stuff
Provo, UT

I had a very strong impression to listen to music for the message. I enjoy mostly instrumental music now as there is so little music that doesn't have a bad message - from subtle inferences to outright bad. There's still a lot of good, wholesome, enjoyable, update, fun music out there, though.

dalamar23666
Alexandria, VA

Kind of interesting that there has been secually explicit language in music for years. From the references in Sugar Hill Gang's Rappers Delight, to Live for today by the Grass roots. But instead of using innuendo's, today's music is being brutally honest about it.

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