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Published: Thursday, Aug. 29 2013 1:35 p.m. MDT

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American Fork, UT

The whole logistics of car ownership is prohibitive. At one time people, especially kids, drove old cars. Now they feel entitled to only newer ones. And the initial cost, insurance, maintenance, parking, traffic, taxation, operating costs, they're all challenging. Its apparent in the example of cars that the expectation of infinite growth is not sustainable. It does not become obvious all at once but manifests itself in pressures across the system, and eventually it reaches a tipping point. In this case, we'll own cars and drive less.

Arizona Rocks
Phoenix, AZ

The cost of fuel stops most of the "Sunday" drives. It has in our family. I used to love to take a drive and get out of town and tour around our state. Not anymore. I miss it but I don't have the money to do it.

Durham, NC

And yet.... the number of cars sold reached an all time record high last month. So sometimes a few numbers don't tell the whole story. Perhaps what could also be a subtext would be living in far away urban sprawl neighborhoods is dying. Or perhaps our national addversion to mass transit is reversing course. Or it could be those mile chomping long road trips aren't making economic sense with higher gas prices and cheap air fares.

There are a whole lot of reasons one could point to for the numbers we are seeing. I really really doubt it is the end of cars though.... that is an extreme stretch.

DN Subscriber 2

I am always suspicious of anything from Associated Press, noted for their close ties to the Obama administration and the leftist agenda, rather than impartial reporting of factual news.

First, the economic and job numbers being used are widely considered to be inaccurate, and the author seems to overlook the impact of high gas prices (around $3.80 per gallon compared to $2.62 when Obama took office) and the declining buying power.

Besides, the left's dream has been to make energy cost and taxes so high that people would be forced to use less, and be hostage to the routes and schedules of mass transit, or herded into urban ghettos.

So, I dispute the premise, the evidence and the conclusions. Otherwise, a nice story.

I remain very much into driving, although I have cut my miles drive by about 10% just because of the increased cost.

Farmington, UT

In 2004, on a trip to northern California, I bought fuel for $1.599 in Elko, NV and remarked to my teenage son "I hope the time doesn't come that we think this price is a bargain." Well, I should have bought stock in an oil company, I guess.

My family once owned 4 cars and the combined total mileage on them was under 50,000 miles. I bought a new vehicle every 6 months. I had an employee discount and the market made it work. Then the manufacturers gave that pricing to everyone and I lost the advantage so I had to quit buying new and giving others a good deal when they bought my car. In fact, the local dealer sold my (new) 1998 6-month used truck to a customer for more than I paid for it new. Now my vehicles total a combined 200,000 miles.

Our oldest vehicle (not counting my wife's classic) is a 2006. The US Average is 11 years old the news said yesterday. Cars last longer; gas is MUCH MORE expensive; insurance is up, etc.

Reduce fuel prices and SUV sales soar as do motor homes. Simple economics at work.

Salt Lake CIty, ut

Its the economy that Obama has destroyed. This is by design. To American the car was the ultimate freedom. In America you could go wherever you wanted whenever you wanted. This Obama regime doesn't like freedom so they regulate the bajezus out of everything to herd us into their safety net programs like a bunch of serfs. Not only has he helped gas skyrocket but the creeping inflation, wages falling and other destructive regulation driving up costs of everything including cars it is amazing that we are still able to buy them at all.

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

@ DN Subscriber 2

"...impact of high gas prices (around $3.80 per gallon compared to $2.62 when Obama took office)"

It never ceases to amaze me how folks try to stick in a cut to Obama at any chance, even if the reasons are not true.

Yes, gas prices were down when Obama entered office, and it was because of the Bush Recession. People were out of work, business down, and so people weren't driving to work or taking vacations, and products weren't being shipped -- hence, decreased demand for oil resulted in low gas prices.

If anything, higher gas prices are a sign of better economic times as gasoline consumption is up since Obama took office as more people are working again and buying again.

Don't forget, it was under Bush that America got its first taste of $4.12 a gallon gasoline in 2008 -- long before Obama came into office.

If you want price-stable energy, go for renewables. Wind, solar, and hydro don't have any global commodity value and have helped stabilize electricity prices (along with low natural gas prices). Of course, you need an electric vehicle to enjoy those low, price-stable power sources.

Boise, ID

As a 27-year-veteran transportation cyclist, I chuckle at people who equate driving a car as "ultimate freedom." Because I see 'em sitting in traffic jams ("The Freedom Parade"), looking for parking spots, paying whatever Big Oil is asking for the go-juice, spending roughly 20% of their income on owning and operating a car.

Now I know better. I'd NEVER voluntarily go back to a car, for day-to-day transportation. (My wife's minivan gives us freedom to go on summer vacations, haul cargo, etc., but the vast majority of trips - for me and most Americans - is carrying me and my sack lunch back and forth to work. The bicycle serves admirably... and my commute is often one of the high points of the day.)

Rural sport fan

Hey bike boy...how long is your commute?

In my area, we have one street light in a circle 90 miles across, and commutes are often over 30 miles, on narrow rural roads filled with oil tankers. The guys making those commutes are carrying several hundred pounds of tools and equipment, and often drive those trucks over 100 miles a day as part of their job. A traffic jam is a guy on a bike forcing the trucks to slow down because they cant safely pass him. Your paradigm is based on a narrow world view, my friend.

As for the article...typical media bad pseudo science. Limited data, bad conclusions, misleading story. You'd think the writers would be too smart to actually believe their baloney...so they must be shills for someone. Sad, really.

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