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Published: Monday, Aug. 26 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

I have never liked the idea of horse carriage rides and horses in the city (urban area). The flow of traffic relative to cars is too imbalanced, traffic is too high, and horse carriages can't get through yellow lights once in the meridian.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Carriage horse rides downtown are from another century."

You say it like it's a bad thing.

There are lots of us "from another century." Many of us, like Jerry, have to work downtown. We don't see much pasture, either. Most of us, like Jerry, love our work and are happy with the way we're treated at work. Some of us get into accidents with cars.

So, what are you suggesting for us "from another century?"

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Marie; you forgot trains. In your list, you go from the small to the large. maybe we should cut out all of the bicycles and pedestrians. They can't move fast enough and would impede traffic. Many times I have seen pedestrians in the middle of the street when the light changes. They should also be banned? I own horses, and know how much a horse of this kind can cost and what is involved in the training. perhaps in Chicago, they didn't take care of their horses, but I would take very good care of a business investment this size if I were the one running the business.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"The horses are exploited for profit and forced to live and work a very grueling existence "

And on the farm, horses are owned for what? I don't want to be just mean, but working for the profit of the owner has been the lot of the horse for thousands of years. I do get horse drawn carriage rides through historic cities like Savannah and Charleston.... but through cities like Salt Lake where its history has been carefully dismantled in the name of progress.... I do agree the carriages do seem a bit out of place.

But lets be real, horses have been exploited by man for work and pleasure, and to clam otherwise just isn't very truthful. Now working for man need not mean ill treated - but then again - horses in green pasture also get sick as well.

Lets protect these animals, and treat them with respect, but lets not get lost in some disney version of reality either.

Bloodhound
Provo, UT

Pass city ordinances to protect the animals. Make sure they are not being abused and are receiving appropriate medical treatment. Tweak these ordinances if there is a problem. Otherwise, I believe the horses should be left alone to pull carriages and provide rides.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

What about mounted police in NYC, etc? They are horses, working in an urban setting, and very effective I might add. Should THEY be banned by the Humane Society?

No One Of Consequence
West Jordan, UT

Street level trolleys like TRAX and the soon-to-open Sugarhouse Trolley are also from another century, so the horses fit right in.

jessyv74
Salt lake City, UT

I have been trying to get these horses some help for many years. Horses do not belong in traffic breathing exhaust, these horses are scared, honked at, startled and clearly not taken care of well. Have you seen where they live? it is disgusting- if you have an animal that makes you money you should at least provide it with proper care and a decent place to live however this is not the case with people who see animals as dollar signs. I have NEVER seen these horses given water in the heat. There should be laws, temperature restrictions and clearly these need better vet care! Where is Jerry? has anyone seen him. I fight for all animals,ones being exploited, abused, neglected I will never stop fighting to make things better for them. Just as God created us he also created them, they feel pain, love, sadness and for that reason should be treated with kindness and compassion. The minute you care more about the mighty dollar than the quality or concern of any sentient being there is a problem. Animals in circuses, factory farms, Sea World they are all exploited.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

If you think that those horses are being mistreated, buy the horses and provide them whatever you think that they need, otherwise, realize that those who own those horses have the right and responsibility to treat those horses without your advice. If the owner wants a good return on his investment, he will care for the horse properly.

I lived on a farm in my youth. We had twenty dairy cows. They were not pets. They were properly fed and properly sheltered. When they were sick, a vet was called. They were expensive to buy and expensive to keep, but they provided a product that offset those costs. As long as they were productive, they had a place on the dairy farm.

Those who have a "carriage" business would know the rules that apply to their business; but, they can't control traffic. They can't control exhaust. They can't control the people who yell or throw things at the horses. They can't control the weather. They are just like the thousands of settlers who used horses as transportation. Horses pulled carriages then. Horses pull carriages now.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Many things don't belong in an urban setting. People with cowboy hats for one. We should just ban them from the city.

Other things that should be banned in the city are... thongs, spandex, noisy kids, ugly people, etc.

Commonsense22
Boston, MA

Splitting hairs over how someone phrased their comment is rather non-productive. Also, the horses of the mounted police force can hardly be compared to the carriage horses!
Bottom line is that I agree with Marie Walsh-West that horses simply do not belong in any city! I have worked with horses for 4 decades and there are enough 'good reasons' to compile a list much longer than allowed to share here! Is it legal? Do the business owners have the 'right' to use these horses and subject them to a life that can only be compared to slavery? Yes of course they do, but that doesn't make it right! Is it really so hard for us as a society to evolve and become a better one? Why do some of us try so hard to remain less civilized? The people who don't see anything wrong with this industry simply choose to be indifferent to another living beings right to live free from cruel treatment. Animals have so much to add to our quality of life and we do not have to torture them to benefit from all they have to offer! Time to evolve America!

Kathy Chadwell
Lafayette, IN

I agree horses do NOT belong in cities nor used around automobiles. Too many tragedies have already happened. Even in a parade a team of Clydesdale horses were spooked. It ended badly for the horses and humans alike. With the hot temperatures we have these days,, the concrete in the cities makes it much hotter for these poor souls. There is no need for it,, it is past time to put a stop to it.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:MikeRichards

"They are just like the thousands of settlers who used horses as transportation. Horses pulled carriages then."

In concrete jungles?

Eliot
Genola, UT

I am from another century. I hope you don't want to get rid of me too.

RFLASH
Salt Lake City, UT

People fall dead in urban places. Does that mean we are not suited to be there?

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