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Published: Sunday, Aug. 25 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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American Fork, UT

Imagine a world where fox creates reality. I guess we dont have to imagine anymore, eh?

Far East USA, SC

"Sadly, this president has taken upon himself the power to determine which laws he will deign to enforce."

2 things.

It is not just "this president". Signing statements have been used by may presidents, with G W Bush being the most prolific in history. Signing statements do Exactly what you are railing against.

Delaying parts of the ACA is what the GOP has been pushing, and continues to push.

Proving once again, If the Dems want to make the GOP scream about something, give them what they ask for. They will do an immediate 180.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations refused to enforce the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. This allowed large national corporations to drive thousands of local firms out of business.

The Bush Jr. administration did not enforce many environmental laws, or securities laws.

No administration in the last thirty years has enforced our country's labor laws, which has allowed Corporate America to bust all the unions and kill worker wages.

Were you complaining about these cases.

Salt Lake City, UT

These are executive orders. They're kinda annoying. But the thing about them is... Obama has used 157 in 4.5 years. W. Bush used 291 in 8 years (so they're at roughly the same pace). Clinton, 364 in 8 years. Bush 166 in 4 years. Reagan 381 in 8 years.

But hey, at least it's not like Coolidge (1203 in 8 years) or FDR (3522 in 13 years). In fact Obama is using them at a pace roughly the lowest per year in a century.

Salt Lake City, UT

It's totally okay to be upset with this type of thing... personally I think it's used more than it should. However, pretending this is only an Obama thing is either wrong or dishonest, depending on whether one knows better.

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

Thank you Mr. Fillerup!
We will now hear the Deseret News comments that will try and dispute what you have said.
I fear for this nation and for what this president is doing to it.
You can imagine if this was Pres Bush we would hear screaming all over about this usurpation of power.
I pray our country is protected and can whether this presidency.

Hayden, ID

Delaying the ACA is not what most of American wants, getting rid of it is!

Far East USA, SC

I have not seen a poll (or do not recall) that asks Americans

"would you like to repeal Obamacare in favor of what we had before"

I suspect that the public would be strongly opposed to that.

Yet, the "repeal and replace" GOP has yet to pen replacement legislation.

If they would offer a better solution, I think most (including me) would give it a fair look.

Salt Lake City, UT

"We will now hear the Deseret News comments that will try and dispute what you have said."

Already done, star bright, look at the comments above yours. They have already blown the letter writers argument out of the water. Done.

"You can imagine if this was Pres Bush we would hear screaming all over about this usurpation of power."

He did do it. Seems like there wasn't that much screaming, you sure didn't hear about it. Or at least you choose to ignore it in your zeal to attack this president and fret about whether this country can weather this president.

"Imagine the chaos that would ensue if individual citizens or corporations began to pick and choose which laws they thought were just. "

But we do just that all the time. Every time you break traffic laws, or don't follow "antiquated" laws dealing with you intimate life, or don't follow exactly housing codes. Businesses push the law all the time looking for tax loopholes and the like.

There was a governor that ordered the extermination of Mormons. Shoot on sight, I believe. Should that law have been followed? Or ignored?


The Obama administration issued a new policy Friday that says immigration agents should try not to arrest and deport illegal immigrant parents of minor children. The move adds to the categories of people the administration is trying not to deport.

ICE agents and officers sued to block the policies, but a federal judge in Texas last month turned down their case. The judge said they were probably correct in arguing that the law requires them to arrest illegal immigrants, but he said he didn’t have jurisdiction since it was a matter for collective bargaining, not for the courts.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

We have one President at a time. The time to discuss Obama is now. The time to blame other Presidents is in the past. Those who have no possible way to condone Obama's failure to faithfully execute the laws that his oath of office requires of him will mimic him and try to divert his failure by blaming others. His declaration that "The buck stops with me" is just one more failure to perform his duty.

Those who compare his rhetoric with his actions don't waste time listening to his grad schemes; they know that he will do what he wants regardless of the limitations imposed on him by the Supreme Law of the Land.

Park City, UT


What you are saying is that we should ignore history and precedence. We should treat each occurrence as unique and reinterpret case law to fit a definition that has been disproved many times.

Stating that the buck stops with him is a failure? Typically most people look at that responsibility in a positive light. Would you like the President to not take responsibility?

This myopic partisan talk is a cancer that erodes at the soul of America.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

“Imagine the chaos that would ensue if individual citizens or corporations began to pick and choose which laws they thought were just.”

Sort of like what churches are doing.

Salt Lake City, UT

"The Obama administration has relaxed mandated work requirements for welfare despite a federal law to the contrary."

And that's not true either. He followed through on a change that doesn't relax requirements that was requested by several governors including Governor Herbert. You might be familiar with him.

Salt Lake City, UT

"We have one President at a time. The time to discuss Obama is now. The time to blame other Presidents is in the past."

No, Mike Richards, I refuse to live in the same vacuum it seems you want to. I will not pretend that history began in Janurary, 2009. I will not try to understand events that are happening today without an understanding of what has happened before. If you choose to live with blinders on that is your choice; I choose to see the world as it is.

And I will not sit by while others criticize this president for doing the exact same thing previous presidents have done. I will not pretend that he is the first to have done it and I will not be muzzled by you or your ilk.

-So Vickie, your complaint is that this president refuses to see young people that have only known life in this country torn up and sent to a foreign country that they have zero ties to? Your complaint is that this president does not think families should be torn apart?


"Obama has directed OPM to pay special subsidies for the health insurance of congressional staff even though the law expressly forbids this."

Congress and Congressional Staffers are the ONLY large employer required to buy insurance from the exchanges. Since the exchanges are for people NOT covered by employer insuance, the law is silent on "employer contributions." The law doesn't spell out how Congress buys insurance through the exchanges, leaving much to interpretation.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

So where is the proof? What are the crimes that have been committed by our president? What charges have been filed to bring him to trial?

All we get from the republicans and their conservative friends are: I think, I feel, it looks like, where was the president at night, Bengazi was Obama’s fault. Now they want Obama to go to war because some people believe a video is proof.



I must admit that I am rather confused. Obama announced a policy Friday, but a judge ruled against agents trying to block the policy last month?

Pleasant Grove, UT

@mark "Should that law have been followed? Or ignored?"

Those aren't our only alternatives. Unjust laws may be repealed, and they may be struck down by the courts. We have legal means available to remove them.

Obama also has legal means available. If the president wants to change a law, the Constitution gives him power to "recommend to [Congress's] Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." It doesn't authorize him to blatantly ignore the law, nor to unilaterally rewrite it. In fact, it assigns him the duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Obama's lawlessness violates fundamental principles. If our president is not bound by the rule of law, then we are not citizens, but subjects.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Imagine the chaos that would ensue if individual citizens or corporations began to pick and choose which laws they thought were just. Yet this is precisely what our president has done, and the precedent he is setting could become fatal to our nation.

Steve Fillerup


I'll remember that silly one-liner and LOL each and everytime these same "Holier-than-thous" scream past me on I-15 and cutting me off for obeying, honoring, and sustaining the laws of the land.


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