Published: Sunday, Aug. 25 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
ok to plan really isn't an insulting message unless you;ve been taught
I too often like to accuse small organizations of being hellbent on controlling
the world despite having no evidence to support my claim. With
rational people like the letter writer, I can't imagine how UPEC could ever
imagine folks would make decisions despite having little to no knowledge about
the subject matter.
Utah's population is expected to double to over 5 million in the next two
decades. While we'll be blessed with all these more people, we won't
be blessed with more resources to accommodate all of them. In fact, if climate
change scientists are correct, we'll actually have less water, which will
create significant hardships for the state's quality of life and economy.
We need water for food, to drink, to power our coal-fired power plants, to frack
for natural gas, to turn tar sands into oil, etc. While Utah's
population is exploding, so will the world's. Today, we have about 7.2
billion people, and that is expected to hit 9 to 10 billion by 2050. Most of
that growth will be in Asia and Africa, where they want to live like westerners
with lots of gadgets, air conditioning, SUVs, etc. Again, no additional
resources are on tap -- from oil, water, farmland, rare earths for cell phones,
etc. -- to accommodate all these people and their demands for western
lifestyles.Smaller families is part of how Utah can navigate a
resource-constrained world ahead. We'll also have to invent a substitute
for water. Good luck!
has anyone heard of the voluntary human extinction movement? Radical people who
don't realize the earth was made for people and we take care of the earth.
Thing our change is damaging. What other creature puts out fires, buries
it's dead, cleans up fish from red tide. Humans have to grow food and cut
down trees or mine to survive. Food clothing and shelter is a need.Population control people want to control what is none of there business. A
married couple should be free to have as many children as they want it is there
choice. Population control tries to control the most private decision a couple
Isn't it funny that these organizations are trying to limit American
families, but then we are told we just don't have enough workers, and we
are letting in people by the millions/maybe by the billions if we count all the
refugees we are told we need to take, plus those who have invaded our borders
and tell us that they need welfare, food stamps and now demanding they have free
transplants? The large families I see raise responsible children who will be
paying for the welfare and the food stamps that this president likes to make
sure everyone has.
Yeah, it is a little demeaning. But it is free speech.
The probable reason that religions oppose birth control is because it interferes
with their membership acquisition. Children are automatic new members.
Ultra Bob The reason businessmen and their political minions oppose
birth control is that it reduces the number of customers and their profit.The reason that people might like birth control is to avoid the loss of
personal freedom that comes with increased population.
I'm sure Ms. Barlow is opposed to abortion too. Intelligent family planning
and birth control could greatly reduce the amount of unintended pregnancies with
a corresponding decrease in the demand for abortions. It's a win/win.Many couples may indeed plan their families, but too many others
don't. It's time that the rest of society stopped carrying this
As opposed to people who think pregnant women considering ultrasounds should
have mandatory ultrasounds for "information" purposes (as if women are
too stupid to know what a fetus is)?
"It's OK to plan"So from that you got this: "It
appears UPEC looks at the community at large as those who are ignorant about
various birth control methods and are just popping out babies because they are
religious zombies."Okay. "I think it is
instructive to examine why UPEC has created their Small Families
initiative."So this is what your "examination" came up
with: "They'll encourage this generation to only have two
kids, the next generation to only have one, and then eventually they'll
have the pristine, practically people-free Earth they dream of."Wait a second! Did you examine why they created their initiative (you know,
read their publications, or contact a spokesperson for the group), or did you
just make up stuff? "Why the push for population
control?"Have you read anything about population issues like
problems with finding fresh water for people around the globe and what we are
looking at in the future regarding fresh water issues? Including in this
country? Have you examined the pressures that are being put on our planet by
Lets look at it another way, a lot of families think having ten kids is a great
thing. Fine. But lets do some down and dirty math (I know there are
a lot of variables I'm not taking into account, and there isn't a 150
million couples, but I think you'll get the point.) In the USA
there are over 300 million people. Now lets turn that 300 million into 150
million couples. Lets say each of those couples have ten kids: 150,000,000 x 10 = 1,500,000,000In one generation we add one and
half billion to the population of the USA. Would that be a problem?
"Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague
and we are the cure."Agent Smith
I am about to paint with a broad brush here, but my comments are based on what I
often read in the DesNews forums. If you don't fit in my description below,
then I'm probably not talking to you.Those who are railing
against the idea of planning a family are often also those who decry medicaid,
WIC, school lunch subsidies, an increase in the minimum wage, insurance plans
that must offer birth control prescriptions, and an assortment of other
government helps to families with low incomes.May I suggest that
family planning could be as simple as delaying starting a family until children
can be paid for at birth and fed, clothed, and housed adequately after birth.Those who demand personal responsibility for supporting oneself, should
also demand personal responsibility when creating a family. Planning helps.
If Ms Barlow is offended then perhaps the way she perceives the world needs
tweaking. It was one thing for those who originaly colonized the
valley to have multiple offspring due to mortality rates, etc... This, however,
is not the 1850's.Maybe I'm oversimplifying what Baron
Scarpia & Mark said but it all down to 1 phrase... Water is a finite
resource... Did you not pay attention to Quantum of Solace?
"The agenda seems pretty plain. They'll encourage this generation to
only have two kids, the next generation to only have one, and then eventually
they'll have the pristine, practically people-free Earth they dream
of."---------------**Practically** people-free???Let's face it, these folks hate folks.
Utah's population is expected to double of the next 20 years.We are
already running out of water.Tell me your plan to use less water,
so I don't need to tell you the plan to keep people from killing each
other over the living giving resource.
Hutterite,IMO the "ok to plan" slogan really IS condescending and
insulting. It insinuates that families with more than 2 kids are too dim-witted
to know how, or are afraid to use birth control. It's in the category
with the condescending jokes like saying, "you know they know what causes
that now", to pregnant mothers with little kids in tow. LDS
families know how to use birth control. They know what causes babies. They
aren't stupid. Some actually WANT more than 2 kids.
Scarcity of resources is a common excuse for power-grabbing progressives to
attempt to seize more of our freedoms. The answer to that old argument (older
than Malthus) is more freedom. Like a free market for water. Let's sell
water at market rates, after assuring that waterways and wildlife have
sufficient, instead of subsidizing it so we can "make the desert bloom"
and grow lush lawns throughout suburbia. If you want to grow alfalfa in the
desert, and the market price of the water is cheap enough to justify it, then go
right ahead. Otherwise the people of Utah should be allowed to sell it to the
First of all, much of the year Utah's air is poisonous.Some people die
breathing it. We also lack adequate water for our burgeoning population.So what do we as parents when the number of children we have effects the
health of not only our own children, but the health of all those who live around
us? Our earth has finite resources. Many of us in the West use more than our
share of water, fuel, electricity, etc.In section 104 in the
Doctrine and Covenants, God assures us that "there is enough and to
spare." BUT, there is a qualification: "16 But it must needs
be done in mine own away; and behold this is the way that I, the Lord, have
decreed to provide for my saints, that the poor shall be exalted, in that the
rich are made low."The section goes on to say: "18
Therefore, if any man shall take of the abundance which I have made, and impart
not his portion, according to the law of my gospel, unto the poor and the needy,
he shall, with the wicked, lift up his eyes in hell, being in torment."WE ARE FAILING AT THIS.
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