Published: Thursday, Aug. 22 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
In my opinion: Fixing this train wreck is impossible. Time to get the wreckers
in and scrap the whole mess. It's time to start over with something that
isn't designed to fail from the start.
I object strongly to the term "wildly unpopular" -- it might better be
"unpopular with those who listen to publicity by rich doctors, rich hospital
corporations, and rich pill makers".Most Americans realize that
universal health care will drive down the costs that threaten to bankrupt many
cities and all of us citizens."Imperfect, but aimed at the right
goal" is a better description.Does anyone really think that the
multi millions spent lobbying Congress, forcing 40 votes in the House for
nonsense, might not be better spend taking care of children?
Re: ". . . reality now demands compromise . . . ."That's not reality doing the demanding. Rather, it's political
expedience. A cynical politician, hoping to derive political advantage from the
system's planned, inevitable failure.Obamacare WILL fail. It
was designed to fail. Obama wants it to fail. Leavitt can't prevent that.
No one can. He's just positioning himself to be able to say, "If only
people had listened to me then . . . vote for me now."Obamacare's collapse WILL hurt people. It was designed to do so. Obama
wants it to do so.It's classic Cloward-Piven,
community-organizaer, collapse-the-system socialist politics. Like Obama's
sequester, it's designed to create pain amongst the rubes. That pain will
be used to justify liberals' real aim, a completely socialized,
economy-killing, dependence-promoting, single-payer, rationed-care system.It's part of the liberal plan to create permanent crises they can
blame on everyone but themselves, offering themselves as saviors, watching out
for the little guy.The same little guy that's hurting from the
pain they caused.Liberalism -- what a scam!
A voice of sanity crying from the wilderness.
The best way to deal with the ACA is to pass legislation that would make its
implementation contingent on a balanced budget. The US camel's back has had
a straw too many, already.
Mike Lee is right. Obamacare is too flawed to fix. We need to use every means at
our disposal to turn it back at the outset.
The ACA will not work. It was not intended to work. It was intended to
destroy private insurance and get the public so upset with our system that they
will BEG for the Government to take over.It wasn't intended to
actually solve the problem. It was intended to set the stage for the NEXT
step. It's just a baby-step towards where the left thinks we really need
to be. It was never intended to be the whole solution (in case anybody thought
ObamaCare was the greatest thing ever and was going to fix everything).
Well, I'll be washed, ironed and starched! A sane op-ed piece! Look, the ACA will probably work reasonably well, and will just as certainly
have some problems. Let's find 'em, figure 'em out, make things
ACA is not "wildly unpopular." The latest Gallup poll shows the USA
essentially divided on the issue. DN, check your facts.
The Deseret News has sold us down the river. Has it forgotten the
"deals" made to get ObamaCare passed? The Louisiana purchase?
Exempting Nebraska? Exempting unions? Twisting the rules in the Senate? Not
allowing Congress to debate the bill? Nancy Pelosi's statement? Have they forgotten that 59% of the people did not want ObamaCare? Have they
forgotten that Obama told us that is was not a tax? Have they forgotten that
Obama promised that insurance costs would decrease $2,500 per family per
year?Have they read their own newspaper articles where all of those
things were printed?To add further insult, they censor anyone who
calls them on it. They use their influence to tell us to get behind Obama, to
tell us to let him run all over us.After all the abuse that the LDS
people have received at the hands of the federal government, does the Desert
News think that snuggling up to Obama is what the people of Utah will do? The Deseret News has become another notch on Obama's belt in the
suppression of respect for America principles. He must be laughing himself silly
after learning about this editorial.
US laws allowing slavery were the law of the land, so according to the opinion,
we should not have fought against them?BobK, This is not
universal health care, it does nothing to reduce costs (only employment and
economic growth), and universal health care drives down the quality of the
health care.Eric,It failed in MA where fraud ballooned and
access to health care did NOT increase, but go ahead, keep your head in the
"The polls show it's wildly unpopular"? Polls would also show that
those people have no idea what they are talking about.The polls
would show that retired people on MEDICARE are scared the government will take
over their healthcare. Good job propaganda.It appears that many
seniors believe the small payment they make for a medicare supplement, is the
entire price for PRIVATE healthcare insurance for a sick 70 year old. My
goodness. Try $3000 a month if you could even get a private insurance company to
talk to you. So sure, lets cut out medicare and see who starts screaming.
Ronald Reagan, 1961: “If you don’t stop Medicare and I don’t
do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling
our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America
when men were free.” Well my parents and I have not told my children and
grand children about the good ole days without Medicare when life spans were ten
or more years shorter and the senior poverty rate was significantly higher. It
is good to see that we still have cynics that are predicting similar failures
and travesty of a program trying to solve a problem. My hunch is that the
current bill will need improvement but it is offers a better direction to go.
What other direction should we go?..no where?
Polls show that the majority of people either support Obamacare or oppose it
because they don't think it's liberal enough.
When this Nation was founded the people limited the power of the Federal
Government. The People limited the power of the Executive Branch. The People
limited the power of the Legislative Branch. The People limited the scope of
the Court. But, the people realized that things would change. They allowed for
that change by incorporating into the Constitution the means by which the
Constitution could be amended. When 67% of Congress agrees that an
Amendment is necessary, they have the authority to write that amendment, which
must then be accepted by 75% of the States. The process is easy to understand
but difficult to implement. Obama can read. He knows that the
Federal Government is only authorized to collect taxes for the duties enumerated
in Article 1, Section 8. He can read the polls. He knew that an amendment
would never pass. So, he extended his power and he encouraged Congress to
disregard the Constitution. The DN's editorial implies that an
end-run around the Constitution is acceptable.I disagree!
re:MikeRichardsArticle One of the United States Constitution, section 8,
clause 18: "The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws
which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing
Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of
the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."In
addition to these powers to charter and operate federal banks, the clause was
linked to the General Welfare clause and the constitutional powers of tax
collection and the ability to borrow money to give the federal government
virtually complete control over currency.Later applicationsThe
clause has been paired with the Commerce Clause to provide the constitutional
basis for a wide variety of federal laws. For instance, various reforms involved
in the New Deal were found to be necessary and proper enactments of the
objective of regulating interstate commerce.Also, in addition to
this combination of clauses being used to uphold federal laws affecting economic
activity, they also were used to justify federal criminal laws. You
do realize that the Founding Fathers and others thereafter have always disagreed
on the "correct" interpretation of the Constitution.
For you Obamacare supporters, lets see what it has done:"Over
100K New Jersey Residents to Lose Their Affordable Health Plans under
Obamacare" National Review"Businesses claim Obamacare has
forced them to cut employee hours" - CNBC"How Many
Businesses Are Exempt? The Final Number of ‘Obamacare’ Waivers Is
In…" the Blaze"Walmart Bails On Obamacare-Sticks
Taxpayers With Employee Healthcare Costs" Forbes"UPS cuts
health coverage for spouses with other insurance option" Reuters"Obama's health care law to raise claims cost 32 percent" DNSo, lets see, thanks to Obamacare we have more uninsured people, more
expensive insurance, and companies doing everything to get out from under
Obamacare. I don't think any of those were the goals of the ACA. The only
area that the ACA is successful in is pushing the US towards a single payer
"When the Medicare drug plan passed Congress in 2003, Democrats had many
reasons to be furious. The initial partnership between President Bush and
Senator Edward Kennedy had resulted in an admirably bipartisan bill -- it passed
the Senate with 74 votes. Republicans then pulled a bait and switch, taking out
all of the provisions that Kennedy had put in to bring along Senate Democrats,
jamming the resulting bill through the House in a three-hour late-night vote
marathon that blatantly violated House rules and included something close to
outright bribery on the House floor, and then passing the bill through the
Senate with just 54 votes -- while along the way excluding the duly elected
conferees, Tom Daschle (the Democratic leader!) and Jay Rockefeller, from the
conference-committee deliberations.The implementation of that bill
was a huge challenge, and had many rocky moments. Imagine if Democrats had gone
all out to block or disrupt the implementation -- using filibusters to deny
funding, sending threatening letters to companies or outside interests who
mobilized to educate Medicare recipients, putting on major campaigns to convince
seniors that this was a plot to deny them Medicare, etc"("The
Unprecedented, Contemptible GOP Quest to Sabotage Obamacare")
Obamacare is wildly unpopular and shouldn't be implemented. This 15,000
page fiasco puts the IRS in charge of it's enforcement policies and will
create more red tape, death panels, and raise claim costs. Why do some people
continue to think this is a good idea? I commend Sen. Mike Lee and others in
Congress who continue to oppose this terrible bureaucracy. It will not help
American families like they promised, it will only hurt them.
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