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Published: Thursday, Aug. 22 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

In my opinion: Fixing this train wreck is impossible. Time to get the wreckers in and scrap the whole mess. It's time to start over with something that isn't designed to fail from the start.

Bob K
porland, OR

I object strongly to the term "wildly unpopular" -- it might better be "unpopular with those who listen to publicity by rich doctors, rich hospital corporations, and rich pill makers".
Most Americans realize that universal health care will drive down the costs that threaten to bankrupt many cities and all of us citizens.
"Imperfect, but aimed at the right goal" is a better description.

Does anyone really think that the multi millions spent lobbying Congress, forcing 40 votes in the House for nonsense, might not be better spend taking care of children?

Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . reality now demands compromise . . . ."

That's not reality doing the demanding. Rather, it's political expedience. A cynical politician, hoping to derive political advantage from the system's planned, inevitable failure.

Obamacare WILL fail. It was designed to fail. Obama wants it to fail. Leavitt can't prevent that. No one can. He's just positioning himself to be able to say, "If only people had listened to me then . . . vote for me now."

Obamacare's collapse WILL hurt people. It was designed to do so. Obama wants it to do so.

It's classic Cloward-Piven, community-organizaer, collapse-the-system socialist politics. Like Obama's sequester, it's designed to create pain amongst the rubes. That pain will be used to justify liberals' real aim, a completely socialized, economy-killing, dependence-promoting, single-payer, rationed-care system.

It's part of the liberal plan to create permanent crises they can blame on everyone but themselves, offering themselves as saviors, watching out for the little guy.

The same little guy that's hurting from the pain they caused.

Liberalism -- what a scam!

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Finally. Sanity.

Parkesburg, PA

A voice of sanity crying from the wilderness.

Salt Lake City, UT

The best way to deal with the ACA is to pass legislation that would make its implementation contingent on a balanced budget. The US camel's back has had a straw too many, already.

Pleasant Grove, UT

Mike Lee is right. Obamacare is too flawed to fix. We need to use every means at our disposal to turn it back at the outset.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The ACA will not work. It was not intended to work. It was intended to destroy private insurance and get the public so upset with our system that they will BEG for the Government to take over.

It wasn't intended to actually solve the problem. It was intended to set the stage for the NEXT step. It's just a baby-step towards where the left thinks we really need to be. It was never intended to be the whole solution (in case anybody thought ObamaCare was the greatest thing ever and was going to fix everything).

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Well, I'll be washed, ironed and starched! A sane op-ed piece!
Look, the ACA will probably work reasonably well, and will just as certainly have some problems. Let's find 'em, figure 'em out, make things better.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

ACA is not "wildly unpopular." The latest Gallup poll shows the USA essentially divided on the issue. DN, check your facts.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The Deseret News has sold us down the river.

Has it forgotten the "deals" made to get ObamaCare passed? The Louisiana purchase? Exempting Nebraska? Exempting unions? Twisting the rules in the Senate? Not allowing Congress to debate the bill? Nancy Pelosi's statement?

Have they forgotten that 59% of the people did not want ObamaCare? Have they forgotten that Obama told us that is was not a tax? Have they forgotten that Obama promised that insurance costs would decrease $2,500 per family per year?

Have they read their own newspaper articles where all of those things were printed?

To add further insult, they censor anyone who calls them on it. They use their influence to tell us to get behind Obama, to tell us to let him run all over us.

After all the abuse that the LDS people have received at the hands of the federal government, does the Desert News think that snuggling up to Obama is what the people of Utah will do?

The Deseret News has become another notch on Obama's belt in the suppression of respect for America principles. He must be laughing himself silly after learning about this editorial.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

US laws allowing slavery were the law of the land, so according to the opinion, we should not have fought against them?

This is not universal health care, it does nothing to reduce costs (only employment and economic growth), and universal health care drives down the quality of the health care.

It failed in MA where fraud ballooned and access to health care did NOT increase, but go ahead, keep your head in the sand.

tranquility base, 00

"The polls show it's wildly unpopular"? Polls would also show that those people have no idea what they are talking about.

The polls would show that retired people on MEDICARE are scared the government will take over their healthcare. Good job propaganda.

It appears that many seniors believe the small payment they make for a medicare supplement, is the entire price for PRIVATE healthcare insurance for a sick 70 year old. My goodness. Try $3000 a month if you could even get a private insurance company to talk to you. So sure, lets cut out medicare and see who starts screaming.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Ronald Reagan, 1961: “If you don’t stop Medicare and I don’t do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.” Well my parents and I have not told my children and grand children about the good ole days without Medicare when life spans were ten or more years shorter and the senior poverty rate was significantly higher. It is good to see that we still have cynics that are predicting similar failures and travesty of a program trying to solve a problem. My hunch is that the current bill will need improvement but it is offers a better direction to go. What other direction should we go?..no where?

Salt Lake City, UT

Polls show that the majority of people either support Obamacare or oppose it because they don't think it's liberal enough.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

When this Nation was founded the people limited the power of the Federal Government. The People limited the power of the Executive Branch. The People limited the power of the Legislative Branch. The People limited the scope of the Court. But, the people realized that things would change. They allowed for that change by incorporating into the Constitution the means by which the Constitution could be amended.

When 67% of Congress agrees that an Amendment is necessary, they have the authority to write that amendment, which must then be accepted by 75% of the States. The process is easy to understand but difficult to implement.

Obama can read. He knows that the Federal Government is only authorized to collect taxes for the duties enumerated in Article 1, Section 8. He can read the polls. He knew that an amendment would never pass. So, he extended his power and he encouraged Congress to disregard the Constitution.

The DN's editorial implies that an end-run around the Constitution is acceptable.

I disagree!


Article One of the United States Constitution, section 8, clause 18:

"The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

In addition to these powers to charter and operate federal banks, the clause was linked to the General Welfare clause and the constitutional powers of tax collection and the ability to borrow money to give the federal government virtually complete control over currency.
Later applications

The clause has been paired with the Commerce Clause to provide the constitutional basis for a wide variety of federal laws. For instance, various reforms involved in the New Deal were found to be necessary and proper enactments of the objective of regulating interstate commerce.

Also, in addition to this combination of clauses being used to uphold federal laws affecting economic activity, they also were used to justify federal criminal laws.

You do realize that the Founding Fathers and others thereafter have always disagreed on the "correct" interpretation of the Constitution.

Cambridge, MA

For you Obamacare supporters, lets see what it has done:

"Over 100K New Jersey Residents to Lose Their Affordable Health Plans under Obamacare" National Review

"Businesses claim Obamacare has forced them to cut employee hours" - CNBC

"How Many Businesses Are Exempt? The Final Number of ‘Obamacare’ Waivers Is In…" the Blaze

"Walmart Bails On Obamacare-Sticks Taxpayers With Employee Healthcare Costs" Forbes

"UPS cuts health coverage for spouses with other insurance option" Reuters

"Obama's health care law to raise claims cost 32 percent" DN

So, lets see, thanks to Obamacare we have more uninsured people, more expensive insurance, and companies doing everything to get out from under Obamacare. I don't think any of those were the goals of the ACA. The only area that the ACA is successful in is pushing the US towards a single payer system.


"When the Medicare drug plan passed Congress in 2003, Democrats had many reasons to be furious. The initial partnership between President Bush and Senator Edward Kennedy had resulted in an admirably bipartisan bill -- it passed the Senate with 74 votes. Republicans then pulled a bait and switch, taking out all of the provisions that Kennedy had put in to bring along Senate Democrats, jamming the resulting bill through the House in a three-hour late-night vote marathon that blatantly violated House rules and included something close to outright bribery on the House floor, and then passing the bill through the Senate with just 54 votes -- while along the way excluding the duly elected conferees, Tom Daschle (the Democratic leader!) and Jay Rockefeller, from the conference-committee deliberations.

The implementation of that bill was a huge challenge, and had many rocky moments. Imagine if Democrats had gone all out to block or disrupt the implementation -- using filibusters to deny funding, sending threatening letters to companies or outside interests who mobilized to educate Medicare recipients, putting on major campaigns to convince seniors that this was a plot to deny them Medicare, etc"
("The Unprecedented, Contemptible GOP Quest to Sabotage Obamacare")

Kaysville, UT

Obamacare is wildly unpopular and shouldn't be implemented. This 15,000 page fiasco puts the IRS in charge of it's enforcement policies and will create more red tape, death panels, and raise claim costs. Why do some people continue to think this is a good idea? I commend Sen. Mike Lee and others in Congress who continue to oppose this terrible bureaucracy. It will not help American families like they promised, it will only hurt them.

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