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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 20 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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george of the jungle
goshen, UT

When I was in the military, the object of the war game was to protect the flag and to capture the enemies flag. What was the thinking in Benghazi. Is the same behavior going to be the norm.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Poignant letter…

In some areas our morals have evolved (e.g., race, equality) while in other areas they have eroded (e.g., too self-centered). And there’s plenty of blame to go around – from bad public policy to a corporate culture that focuses only on the bottom line.

But I doubt any of this will change (unless a large crisis forces the issue) until we elect leaders who combine a strong moral compass with an unwavering dedication to telling the truth about what is good for the country regardless of where that truth falls on the political spectrum.

My own view is those truths will fall on both sides of the spectrum depending on the issue and how out of balance we are on either side; yet in our hyper-partisan, true believers in ideology current environment, it would seem to be impossible for leaders like this to get elected.

And yet virtually all out great historical leaders transcended politics to some degree and spoke (and acted) in ways that were inclusive and appealed to universal truths.
Example – Lincoln was despised by the partisans (on both sides) of his day.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The greatest fallacy dispensed by the so called moral leaders of our nation is the one that tells us that there are such as moral leaders. No matter how many times we seek to find a moral leader and fail, we still keep thinking we can.

Would we be better off if we just assume that all men are bad, build protection against bad men and be surprised if we don’t need the protection.
Or would we be better off if we assume that men are good and fail to build protection against the bad.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I had hoped when Mitt Romney became a presidential candidate he would usher in a higher level of discourse and truth-telling and was extremely disappointed when he simply turned out to be another slick polititian. I had the same hopes about my own church's involvement in the Prop 8 campaign, but again was extremely disappointed.

I think you're right Ultra Bob.

1aggie
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

We can't depend on DN to follow its guidelines either. A common ploy for them is to not post a comment, send no notice that the comment was denied thereby not offering a person the chance to alter it, then when the person tries to alter and post the comment on their own they are unable to because the "user is over comment limit" when, in fact they aren't.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Moral leadership? A Former President having sex in the oval office with an intern and then pointing his finger at the nation and lying to us? What's more remarkable is the vast majority of Americans didn't think it mattered and still don't! Sadly, this proves America will not elect moral leaders because most Americans are not moral themselves!

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I agree. We definitely need moral leadership.

John Swallow, Chad Bennion, Howard Stephensen, Jason Chaffetz, and Orrin Hatch are anything but moral or courageous leaders.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Jim...

Thank you for taking the time to produce your comment.

Please show DN readers an example of your similar public passionate plea for moral leadership dated anytime between 2001 and 2008...

Your response could possibly lend credence to your premise.

If you cannot produce a similar letter addressing the complete lack of moral leadership suffered by Americans from 2001 to 2008 your passion can simply be reduced to just another example of the right-wing echo-chamber.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

The Real Maverick seems to have his partisan heroes: Anthony Weiner, Bill Clinton, Bob Filner and Elliot Spitzer as the face of Democrat moral and courageous leaders.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@Hemlock – “The Real Maverick seems to have his partisan heroes”

That may be (I won’t speak for him) but how did you get that from his comment?

I find it strange how when someone finds fault with one side that automatically makes them a champion of the opposing side… how does that logic work exactly?

My grandpa used to say that all politicians were dishonest lackeys in the pocket of someone (other than their constituents). Now we have a generation of folks who think this is true about only half of them, and that fact can be discerned solely by knowing if there is a D or an R next to their name.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

To be perfectly honest, I could care less about moral leadership from political leaders. I want competence and attention to the public trust. I expect leaders with a solid grounding in economics, and I want them to tell us the truth, explaining that sometimes debt is a good way to move forward. As for professional athletes, I'm not much interested. Excelling at a sport is difficult enough.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

8 years of Wars, Oil, Terrorists, Torture, Economic Destruction....and NOTHING!

Obama was handed a complete train-wreck, and has spent 1/2 that time trying to right a sinking ship, and Conservatives whine and cry about getting sick people healthcare.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ LDS. Even many Democrats and warning that Obamacare IS a train wreck. And what has Obama done to stop war, terrorists and economic destruction? NOTHING except run up the national debt by $6 trillion, kill jobs, get the DOMA overturned, NSA,one scandal cover-up after another and whine about obstructionist.

Bob K
porland, OR

If we are talking about morals--

Can we please not blame a President for failing to get legislation passed by a Congress whose leaders stated "our main goal is to hurt Obama"?
How are we moral if we elect men and women who do that?

President Obama is not perfect, but he exhibits a moral character consistent with that of many or most churchgoing Americans. You had the chance to defeat him and ran a poor candidate who gave an impression of sliding moral scale, shifting positions, and disdain for the lower and working classes.

If the oaths of office state that Congresspeople should support America, then the constituents need to tell them to pass jobs bills, not vote 40 times to pretend to get rid of Obamacare, etc etc etc.

The public cannot ask officials to be moral when it supports the immoral acts of some of them.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes, get rid of the tea party and get back to reasonable people that represent everyone like the President.

RFLASH
Salt Lake City, UT

We need to stop with the one side is good and the other is bad! We all know that blame lies on both sides and instead of getting radical and demanding that one side have its way, we need to be more united in finding solutions that can help us all. Republicans have done plenty in damaging our nation! they have not , so far, been the heroes they think they are

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