Published: Sunday, Aug. 18 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
All presidents get mocked. You have to have a thick skin to be president.
Sometimes the mocking goes over the line, this was one such instance. That
doesn't mean that mocking should be banned or made illegal. It's still
What really is the "hate Obama" campaign of the ultra-right all about?
While some attribute the course of world events to the influence of powerful
individuals, the reality is that the world has a life of its own of which we all
are but parts. As Gregory Bateson explained, "The self is a false
reification of an improperly delimited part of this much larger field of
interlocking processes." To fanatically blame Obama and the Democrats as
scapegoats for the downside of the natural ebb and flow of world circumstances
is to fundamentally misunderstand our place within a larger whole.There is no advantage in hate and in fearfulness of an always uncertain
future; nor is there refuge in the mistaken notion of an ideal past. What we
are experiencing in the quickening of information, ever broader inclusivity and
the browning of America is as inevitable as the tides of the sea. As Bob Dylan
rightly advised:Come senators, CongressmenPlease heed the
callDon't block at the doorwayDon't block up the hallPlease get out of the [way]If you can't lend a handFor
your times they are a-changin'
Cannot believe that this is even an issue, somebody must not have had anything
I think all sides could benefit from a little good clean fun at their
expense.... but when it turns nasty, racist, mean spirited.... I don't
think anyone benefits from or deserves that. I am the source of some of my own
best jokes.... dumb things I have done and said. If you can't laugh at
yourself, then there are bigger issues.
And why not?Tea Party Conservatives should be proud!Glenn Beck
has made himself a $Millionaire as a "rodeo clown" mocking the President
of the United States for the past 6 years.======“I’m a rodeo clown,” he said in an interview with New York
Times Mar 3, 2009.
I think one problem with this particular incident was the venue. It was a STATE
Fair, funded in part by taxpayers in the state. I also think it makes a
difference because the Pres. Obama is our first black president. Despite
advances, race remains a big issue in our country. There has been an uptick in
racist organizations, fueled not only by the election of Pres. Obama, but also
because of the changing demographics of the U.S. with a decline of white
majority population. At best, it was in poor taste and totally
inappropriate for the setting.
truthseeker,why introduce the race card?BO is worthy of the
mocking because of the foolishness of his policies. What he receives is tame to
what bush was subjected to. Joy (if ever a woman was misnamed, it's her)
Behar chuckled with delight at someone's desire to kill bush; and we
won't even go into the filth maher threw at bush ever day of his
administration. Nah, libs can dish it out, but they sure cannot take it.
Re:LostinDCWhat was the underlying motive of the clown and announcer? "Why introduce the race card?"Because it is real and
persistent in our society. Intelligent, well-mannered, people in a public
setting with people of all races, political persuasions and ages ought to set a
good example of civility and sensitivity and take the high road. Neither Joy Behar or Bill Maher have performed at a state-funded public venue
that I know of.I would agree Bill Maher is over-the-top. I would
also note, his "over-the-top" comments (not related to Bush) resulted in
him losing his gig on any major network. He has no radio program either--he can
only be seen on a subscriber based cable channel. I don't
condone any comments by people about killing the president, regardless of party.
People making such statements are fools or crazy.
Lost in DC, Joy Behar, and Bill Maher? That's all you've got? But, yeah, I'll agree, Presidents are always subject to mockery,
and, frankly, that's one of the things that make this country great. But
this time, with this president, it feels different. Or maybe it's just
because conservatives and republicans are much more nasty and mean spirited in
their attacks.But I think one difference is in who is doing the
attacking, Republican politicians and office holders have been vicious with
personal attacks on this president, and on liberals and the Democrats. And I
don't see that type of attack coming from Democrats. In fact
the big media spokesmen for the right, Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh etc, have
been ruthless. And, yeah, fine, it's their right. They can do
it. But it really is distasteful, and turns off a lot of people, like my mother,
a lifelong Republican who now is very critical of the Republican Party. And all
I had to do is show her what these people were saying. His mean spirited they
are.And when did a rodeo become political anyway? I don't
remember them being like that.
Stupid comment of the day "It was a STATE Fair, funded in part by taxpayers
in the state." ALL broadcast airwaves, channels
and frequencies in this country are owned by the "state". You pay for
your license to broadcast, and you sometimes pay for your right to receive
programming. If rodeo cowboys can be eliminated from freedom of speech on
"state owned" venues, the so can clueless Behar and Maher from
"state owned airwaves. People paid to see the rodeo, they are the only ones
who should be able to complain about the content, just like pay per view!
What liberals can keep in mind, is that the rest of the world largely respects
Obama with them. Obama will be a world figure that represents progress and
opportunity for the rest of his life and will broker peace when he's done
as president. Republican presidents in the last decades haven't
been willing nor able to do much of that, especially not Bush Jr.
so when rodeo clowns mocked past presidents at state fairs was that
anti-white?and since Obama is technically a white African American
according to NYT Zimmerman rules, shouldn't anti-white bias be investigated
in this instance too?
@Counter IntelligenceSalt Lake City, UTso when rodeo clowns
mocked past presidents at state fairs was that anti-white?=====so when did rodeo clowns stoop so low as to mock ANY President, since
never?[Especially ones from Cowboy country Texas?]It crossed a
line, right up there with the same sort of folks portraying Obama with a
Hitler mustache -- own it.Believe me, I had PLENTY of not very
flattering things I could have said and done during the 8 years of terror under
Bush/Cheney.But I love my country MORE than I do any political
David Letterman made fun of Romney and his religion months after the election.
No Democrats were to be found. And to think, Liberals call people
who want our immigration laws enforced Nazi's, but cry out when Obama is
mocked with a mustache. I don't remember a President that was
never mocked. Without politicians, comedians would go out of business.
It was a >rodeo
"And when did a rodeo become political anyway? I don't remember them
being like that."Well said.When one buys tickets to
a show featuring Bill Maher, Glenn Beck, Rush Limaugh etc. they know exactly
what they are getting. Expectations are quite different at a rodeo. "But I think one difference is in who is doing the attacking, Republican
politicians and office holders have been vicious""In fact the big
media spokesmen for the right, Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh etc, have been
ruthless."Yes, for example how can any woman, husband or father
forget Limbaugh's attack on Sandra Fluke? A Democrat being
elected as Pres. brings out the worst in Republicans. Simply put, they are sore
losers. The non-stop investigations, conspiracy theories and attacks were also
par for the course when Clinton was President. But with Pres. Obama it has
reached a new low, including continuing questions about his
citizenship/religion, the Senate Majority Leader announcing that his goal was to
seek the failure of the Pres., and the unprecedented obstruction including
appointments of his own cabinet and non-controversial judicial appointments.
The state Government pays for the state fair? I didn't know that. I
don't think the government paid one cent for the rodeo, Admittance prices,
cowboy fees, and concessions I am sure paid for the rodeo. Oboma is the first
president that has African Decent but his Mother was white raised by White
Grandparents, His Dad he seen once was from Kenya.People could care
less about his race. His policies are what people disagree with. Mocking
police, prosecuters and the like has been going on for some time in rodeos.
I've seen a few clowns tell Lorena Bobbitt, Jeffrey Dahmer and David
Koresh jokes. Those are probably classless. In this country you have the right
to mock the President.
Being political correct is kinda like talking to some one on medication. Their
in their own world.
so when did rodeo clowns stoop so low as to mock ANY President, since never?[Especially ones from Cowboy country Texas?]There is documented
evidence that there has been a bush clown in the past. But of course, that one
was OK.Can you say double-standard?
Truthseeker,Transpose Bush and Obama or Republicans and Democrats and your
argument would not change. The party in power always resents being ridiculed,
but it is called Free Speech. Hiding behind the race card is without merit and
entirely nonsensical. Hinging your argument on an assumption that cannot be
documented puts you on the road to further embarrassment.
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