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Published: Sunday, Aug. 18 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

All presidents get mocked. You have to have a thick skin to be president. Sometimes the mocking goes over the line, this was one such instance. That doesn't mean that mocking should be banned or made illegal. It's still free speech.

Ajax
Mapleton, UT

What really is the "hate Obama" campaign of the ultra-right all about? While some attribute the course of world events to the influence of powerful individuals, the reality is that the world has a life of its own of which we all are but parts. As Gregory Bateson explained, "The self is a false reification of an improperly delimited part of this much larger field of interlocking processes." To fanatically blame Obama and the Democrats as scapegoats for the downside of the natural ebb and flow of world circumstances is to fundamentally misunderstand our place within a larger whole.

There is no advantage in hate and in fearfulness of an always uncertain future; nor is there refuge in the mistaken notion of an ideal past. What we are experiencing in the quickening of information, ever broader inclusivity and the browning of America is as inevitable as the tides of the sea. As Bob Dylan rightly advised:

Come senators, Congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't block at the doorway
Don't block up the hall

Please get out of the [way]
If you can't lend a hand
For your times they are a-changin'

high school fan
Huntington, UT

Cannot believe that this is even an issue, somebody must not have had anything to do.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I think all sides could benefit from a little good clean fun at their expense.... but when it turns nasty, racist, mean spirited.... I don't think anyone benefits from or deserves that. I am the source of some of my own best jokes.... dumb things I have done and said. If you can't laugh at yourself, then there are bigger issues.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

And why not?
Tea Party Conservatives should be proud!

Glenn Beck has made himself a $Millionaire as a "rodeo clown" mocking the President of the United States for the past 6 years.

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“I’m a rodeo clown,” he said in an interview with New York Times Mar 3, 2009.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I think one problem with this particular incident was the venue. It was a STATE Fair, funded in part by taxpayers in the state. I also think it makes a difference because the Pres. Obama is our first black president. Despite advances, race remains a big issue in our country. There has been an uptick in racist organizations, fueled not only by the election of Pres. Obama, but also because of the changing demographics of the U.S. with a decline of white majority population.

At best, it was in poor taste and totally inappropriate for the setting.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

truthseeker,
why introduce the race card?

BO is worthy of the mocking because of the foolishness of his policies. What he receives is tame to what bush was subjected to. Joy (if ever a woman was misnamed, it's her) Behar chuckled with delight at someone's desire to kill bush; and we won't even go into the filth maher threw at bush ever day of his administration. Nah, libs can dish it out, but they sure cannot take it.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:LostinDC
What was the underlying motive of the clown and announcer?

"Why introduce the race card?"

Because it is real and persistent in our society. Intelligent, well-mannered, people in a public setting with people of all races, political persuasions and ages ought to set a good example of civility and sensitivity and take the high road.

Neither Joy Behar or Bill Maher have performed at a state-funded public venue that I know of.

I would agree Bill Maher is over-the-top. I would also note, his "over-the-top" comments (not related to Bush) resulted in him losing his gig on any major network. He has no radio program either--he can only be seen on a subscriber based cable channel.

I don't condone any comments by people about killing the president, regardless of party. People making such statements are fools or crazy.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Lost in DC, Joy Behar, and Bill Maher? That's all you've got?

But, yeah, I'll agree, Presidents are always subject to mockery, and, frankly, that's one of the things that make this country great. But this time, with this president, it feels different. Or maybe it's just because conservatives and republicans are much more nasty and mean spirited in their attacks.

But I think one difference is in who is doing the attacking, Republican politicians and office holders have been vicious with personal attacks on this president, and on liberals and the Democrats. And I don't see that type of attack coming from Democrats.

In fact the big media spokesmen for the right, Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh etc, have been ruthless.

And, yeah, fine, it's their right. They can do it. But it really is distasteful, and turns off a lot of people, like my mother, a lifelong Republican who now is very critical of the Republican Party. And all I had to do is show her what these people were saying. His mean spirited they are.

And when did a rodeo become political anyway? I don't remember them being like that.

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

Stupid comment of the day "It was a STATE Fair, funded in part by taxpayers in the state."


ALL broadcast airwaves, channels and frequencies in this country are owned by the "state". You pay for your license to broadcast, and you sometimes pay for your right to receive programming. If rodeo cowboys can be eliminated from freedom of speech on "state owned" venues, the so can clueless Behar and Maher from "state owned airwaves. People paid to see the rodeo, they are the only ones who should be able to complain about the content, just like pay per view!

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

What liberals can keep in mind, is that the rest of the world largely respects Obama with them. Obama will be a world figure that represents progress and opportunity for the rest of his life and will broker peace when he's done as president.

Republican presidents in the last decades haven't been willing nor able to do much of that, especially not Bush Jr.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

so when rodeo clowns mocked past presidents at state fairs was that anti-white?

and since Obama is technically a white African American according to NYT Zimmerman rules, shouldn't anti-white bias be investigated in this instance too?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

so when rodeo clowns mocked past presidents at state fairs was that anti-white?

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so when did rodeo clowns stoop so low as to mock ANY President, since never?
[Especially ones from Cowboy country Texas?]

It crossed a line,
right up there with the same sort of folks portraying Obama with a Hitler mustache -- own it.

Believe me, I had PLENTY of not very flattering things I could have said and done during the 8 years of terror under Bush/Cheney.

But I love my country MORE than I do any political parties.

VickieB
SLC, UT

David Letterman made fun of Romney and his religion months after the election. No Democrats were to be found.

And to think, Liberals call people who want our immigration laws enforced Nazi's, but cry out when Obama is mocked with a mustache.

I don't remember a President that was never mocked. Without politicians, comedians would go out of business.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

It was a >rodeo

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

"And when did a rodeo become political anyway? I don't remember them being like that."

Well said.

When one buys tickets to a show featuring Bill Maher, Glenn Beck, Rush Limaugh etc. they know exactly what they are getting. Expectations are quite different at a rodeo.

"But I think one difference is in who is doing the attacking, Republican politicians and office holders have been vicious"
"In fact the big media spokesmen for the right, Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh etc, have been ruthless."

Yes, for example how can any woman, husband or father forget Limbaugh's attack on Sandra Fluke?

A Democrat being elected as Pres. brings out the worst in Republicans. Simply put, they are sore losers. The non-stop investigations, conspiracy theories and attacks were also par for the course when Clinton was President. But with Pres. Obama it has reached a new low, including continuing questions about his citizenship/religion, the Senate Majority Leader announcing that his goal was to seek the failure of the Pres., and the unprecedented obstruction including appointments of his own cabinet and non-controversial judicial appointments.

higv
Dietrich, ID

The state Government pays for the state fair? I didn't know that. I don't think the government paid one cent for the rodeo, Admittance prices, cowboy fees, and concessions I am sure paid for the rodeo. Oboma is the first president that has African Decent but his Mother was white raised by White Grandparents, His Dad he seen once was from Kenya.

People could care less about his race. His policies are what people disagree with. Mocking police, prosecuters and the like has been going on for some time in rodeos. I've seen a few clowns tell Lorena Bobbitt, Jeffrey Dahmer and David Koresh jokes. Those are probably classless. In this country you have the right to mock the President.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

Being political correct is kinda like talking to some one on medication. Their in their own world.

Curmedgeon
Bountiful, UT

so when did rodeo clowns stoop so low as to mock ANY President, since never?
[Especially ones from Cowboy country Texas?]

There is documented evidence that there has been a bush clown in the past. But of course, that one was OK.

Can you say double-standard?

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Truthseeker,
Transpose Bush and Obama or Republicans and Democrats and your argument would not change. The party in power always resents being ridiculed, but it is called Free Speech. Hiding behind the race card is without merit and entirely nonsensical. Hinging your argument on an assumption that cannot be documented puts you on the road to further embarrassment.

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