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Published: Friday, Aug. 16 2013 4:26 p.m. MDT

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Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Seems like a fair response to me. I'm glad they did something.

mcdugall
Murray, UT

Isolate your audience even more...who is running the RNC these days?

One of a Few
Layton, UT

Okay, Are the also dropping Fox?

Cincinnatus
Kearns, UT

It seems like they did what they wanted to do anyway, cut back on the number of debates, while finding somewhere else to lay the blame on for doing so.

They want friendly moderators, i.e., someone who won't ask tough or "unfair" questions. Fine. But this is part of the problems with the debates anyway. You either get softballs thrown by the moderators, which tell us virtually nothing about the candidates positions, or you get the tough questions that they don't want asked because they don't have a good "sound bite answer" for them, or you get the unfair questions that try to throw a wrench into the works that try and play the "gotchya" game.

It seems like their biggest problem is that they don't like the primary candidates beating up on each other and want to try and minimize that through fewer debates. Get some serious candidates, not Newt, Michelle, and Rick who muddy the waters through non-factual statements and hyperbole. That might be a start.

But in the end, all this really does is give the voters less info on who they might be voting for.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

What about the free speech rights of those stations to air what they want?

Anyone who opposes the proposed boycott of Card's Enders Game series and does not protest the actions of the RNC, is a hypocrite.

Just as people have the right to boycott Enders Game, so to does the RNC have the right to protest CNN and NBC. And people have the right to think they are silly for doing so.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Kalindra,

"What about the free speech rights of those stations to air what they want?"

What a nonsensical comment. What if they wanted to air what goes on in your bedroom?

Surely you would allow that since its free speech right?

Anyone who supported the Ender's game boycott and doesn't support this is a hypocrite.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

The RNC represents the political party that promotes the open-free market philosophy... and then tells American voters that they want to limit the open-free market...

Perfect.

Sorry Charlie!
SLC, UT

and once again the RNC tries to find blame for their failures everywhere but at their own feet.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ Chris B: If they wanted to air that and I sold them the rights to do so, of course I would allow it.

Did you read any of the rest of my comment? Shocking as it is, for once you and I are in complete agreement.

I totally support this and the Card boycott. (There are a few differences, of course - the consequences for not seeing Enders Game are nowhere near the same as the consequences of not introducing your candidates to the voters, but whatever.)

The TV stations have a right to air the content (and I applaud them for not giving in to the threats of the RNC) and the RNC has a right to look totally silly by refusing to allow those stations to air the RNC positions on the issues to potential voters.

I mean really - those stations are giving Hillary total name recognition and taking her into the homes of voters and the RNC is refusing those stations the opportunity to do the same for RNC candidates. Brilliant ploy. I'm sure it won't at all backfire.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face is, I'm sure, totally inapplicable to this situation.

ThornBirds
St.George, Utah

Oh, woe is the GOP.
They were so sure that those 2011-2012 television docudramas about Mitt Romney would give them the 2012 Presidency.
The crack in your suit of armor is getting larger, Repubs. You are coming across as frightened and panic stricken.
Hillary has had to put up with Bill's shenanigans, but Hillary did not drive off on vacation with her dog on the roof of her car: did not rough up a prep school classmate: did not send much of her fortune off to the Cayman Islands; does not change her position on major issues each week; has not insulted middle class Americans. I will let others fill in the rest of Romney's failings. They simply cannot find a candidate that can beat Hillary Clinton
The GOP is scared. They will try anything at this point in time.

Wonderpus
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, UT

Yes this sounds like an excellent plan. Isolate the GOP to an even smaller bubble. Go for it.

DSB
Cedar Hills, UT

@Kalindra - NBC and CNN have no legal entitlement to air debates. They have no legal right to "air what they want," if it violates the rights of the broadcast copyright holder. If Comedy Central wanted to air a debate, but either the RNC or the DNC did not agree to participate, do you think Comedy Central could somehow obligate them to do so under the premise of "free speech rights" and the right to "air what they want?"

Also, your comparison to RNC policy and Ender's Game is curious. I don't know how one comes to be the hypocrisy arbiter of unrelated topics, but thanks for making the heretofore unknown connection so we can avoid your judgment of hypocrisy.

@ThornBirds - 200 words within each of 4 allowed comments isn't enough space to list Obama's failings, and Hillary has admitted having her own well-known "baggage," which would also dwarf the petty so-called failings of Romney. I expect the media will focus endlessly on "binders full of women" type comments for the GOP, and dismiss Benghazi-type affairs for Hillary as unimportant. From your list, it seems you like it like it that way.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Kalindra,

As for free speech, the networks get to broadcast whatever they want, including "tributes" to Hillary Clinton. Likewise, the Republican National Party had the full right to choose which debates their candidates will participate in and on which networks.

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Instead of blocking a network, why don't those guys just insist on a different format. Here is how debates should work. Two moderators. One a Democrat one a Republican. The Republican ask the Democrat candidate questions, the Democrat asks the Republican questions. Easy peasy and we might actually learn something about the candidates views. At a minimum the Republicans should insist on a conservative moderator for at least one Presidential debate. Someone like Sean Hannity, or Bill O'Reilly asking questions. That would counter somewhat the effect of always a liberal/Democrat asking questions.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

I fully support this boycott. I had no interest in listening to the Repubs debate anyway. ;-)

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

Keep it up RNC, the same old strategy of dividing out the old codgers that support you works fine - for loosing.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Has anyone asked the "famous icons of business and industry" how to fix the GOP?
Would Mitt Romney and Donald Trump attempt to save this "corporation"? Would they chose to fire many of the "employees"? Could dismantling this "corporation", and completely starting over save the Republican party? Do these experienced men, with a great deal of history in redoing businesses, see a future for the GOP?
Knowing the Deseret News fascination with Mitt Romney(not sure about "the Donald"), we can see our Utah news source looking into this and reporting the outcome of their research to all of it's devoted readers.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

The RNC has been looking for an excuse to drop CNN and MSNBC for hosting debates. They don't like the tough questions but would prefer to me babied with soft ball questions. They just want to excite their own base, but they need to realize that excluding themselves from a larger audience doesn't win elections. I predict that they will reverse these decisions when the next presidential elections cycle gets closer. Preaching to the choir just isn't going to get their message out.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ DSB: Huh? Where in my comments did I claim any different? As for the connection between the two boycotts, they are both boycotts - and if you read the Enders Game boycott comments, you will see that many conservatives claim only liberals engage in boycotts and that doing so is an effort to infringe on free speech rights. I'm just wondering how they feel about this particular boycott.

@ VST: I have never claimed different.

Really, people - reading comprehension is good thing.

DSB
Cedar Hills, UT

@Kalindra

You said "What about the free speech rights of those stations to air what they want?"

What does that mean to you, and why did you say it if it doesn't mean you think CNN and NBC have the right to air a debate? What free speech rights do those stations have to line up or air a debate the candidates or parties haven't agreed to? What station on the planet gets to "air what they want" by virtue of freedom of speech?

To quote you again, "Anyone who opposes the proposed boycott of Card's Enders Game series and does not protest the actions of the RNC, is a hypocrite."

So, if I oppose one boycott, I must oppose all boycotts? And that passes as a logical deduction to you? How about this - I support everyone's right to engage in whatever lame boycott they want to, for whatever lame reason. It's a free country, so power to the people. I don't see how that means I have to personally support or oppose all boycotts if I support or oppose one.

Really - understanding that words have meaning is a very good thing.

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