While liberals were weeping with joy over the 'Arab Spring' and the
Muslim Brotherhood, want to know who spoke out about forecoming violence and
unrest in Egypt?Glenn Beck.Yes, that Glenn Beck.
'Scientist' - If you want nothing to do with
religion....then why do you talk about it incessantly?Oops.
I am very saddened at the violence happening in Egypt. We should have seen this
coming when the Muslim Brotherhood (a known terrorist organization)got elected.
Erick Stackelbeck wrote a Book titled "The Brotherhood, America's Next
Greatest Enemy". In an excerpt from his book he interviews Tariq Ramadan the
grandson of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. This same Tariq Ramadan was
denied a visa to the U.S. by Pres. Bush under the Patriot Act due to his
affiliations with this terrorist group. Pres. Barack Obama instructed Hillary
Clinton to take him off that list in 2010. Pres. Obama also had Sec. of State
Kerry give the Muslim Brotherhood $500 million in economic aid. When it comes to
the Middle East and foreign policy our President will do things which undermine
our security at home and abroad.
@The Scientist,The proximate cause of the violence in Egypt is a
political power struggle. The proximate cause of Mountain Meadows was fear and
panic; the Fancher party wasn't killed in a fight over religious dogma.
Blaming religion for either event simply because one side happens to be
religious is a reductionist, myopic analysis which completely ignores key facts
in each situation.Most violence between groups is the result of
greed or power. Religion, like nationalism, race, tribalism, and political
ideology, is merely an instrument used to delegitimize the opposition and
rationalize the use of violence in furtherance of nakedly secular objectives.
Get rid of religion and people will still find reasons to become fanatical
enough to do violence. There's certainly enough evidence that atheists are
capable of the fanaticism inherent in the inhumane violence you decry, from the
French Revolution to the Killing Fields in Cambodia.
Ted wrote:"You can't lump 'all' religions
together with groups like the Muslim Brotherhood...Their mentality is 'You
believe the same as me' or its 'Off with your head.'"I am reminded of some LDS doctrines:The Mormons not only
insist that the Mormon Church "will have worldwide jurisdiction in political
realms when the Lord has made a full end of all nations (D&C 87:6), but also
that those who do not obey the Mormon leaders "shall be cut off from among
the people" (D&C 1:14).The problem with religion is not so
much in the behavior of MOST of the people most of the time; it is with the
doctrines that sit like latent tsunamis that erupt into destruction - usually of
the non-believers.Mountain Meadows should be a reminder to all that
even the most seemingly peaceful people can erupt into inhumane violence over
Why is it that everywhere the Muslim Brotherhood gains control... Death and
misery seams to follow?
@The Scientist- this religious war you speak of has being going on since
people have lived in that part of the world. You can't lump "all"
religions together with groups like the Muslim Brotherhood as say people are
leaving because of violence in the Middle East. Many of us are just fine in
practicing our faith and strive to get along with others regardless of what they
believe in. Not so in that part of the world. Their mentality is "You
believe the same as me" or its "Off with your head". They are also
burning down all the Christian churches in their path too. These folks are
crazy and I don't think there is anything that will ever change that. Ever.
Tucket,I agree.This is a religious war... again. Is it
any wonder people are leaving religion?
I doubt a government led by the Muslim Brotherhood is ever going to be
democratic and would make as it did the economy of Egypt go from bad to worse. I
also doubt Morsi had a fair election. The question is what do we want? We want
a secular government. If they would allow an open free enterprise government
with property rights and rule of law and a reasonable bureaucracy things would
improve a lot.
I understand that various diplomats from the BBC news that various diplomats had
been able to work out a compromise between the Moslem Brotherhood and the
government, so the army has made a huge mistake. What in the world were they
I thought we needed to support democratically elected governments? Why are we
supporting a "Military Junta"?Since it is all borrowed money
we give away as foreign aid in the middle east, why don't we cut all
foreign aid in the middle east? Yes than means Egypt and Israel also.It is not really to swift to borrow money to give it away. Yes those two
countries receive a lot of military supplies but in reality it is simply a
welfare system for our military/industrial complex. Corporate welfare maybe?