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Published: Thursday, Aug. 15 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

we all complain about Barack's unconstitutional behavior on just about everything the man does...but there doesn't seem to be anyone or anything keeping him from doing things in an unconstitutional way. Barack knows he is not following the constitution but neither congress or the courts seem to have to power to stop him from doing whatever he wants. He simply snubs his nose at the constitution and makes things up as he goes and we complain and then accept what ever he does. What kind of country do we live in? Is there no rule of law? Are there no checks and balances? I hear congressmen say "well he shouldn't be doing this or that" but if that is the case why don't they file a law suit against the man and stop him? Has president Barack become King Barack? It seems so. Have we the American people become helpless peasants or pawns who have no power anymore to enact change in reckless and lawless leaders? America is in freefall decline it seems and there is no parachute.

Stephen Kent Ehat
Lindon, UT

George Will's excellent piece has this one curiosity:

"When Congress awakened to what it enacted, it panicked: This could cause a flight of talent, making Congress less wonderful."

In the Senate all Republicans voted against the Affordable Care Act with one exception (Jim Bunning (R-KY) not voting).

In the House all 178 Republicans voted against the ACA.

I'd perhaps suggest Mr. Will's sentence be modified:

"When Democrats awakened to what they enacted, they panicked: This could cause a flight of talent, making Congress less wonderful."

The "less wonderful" part of the sentence takes on new meaning. I wonder what Congress would be like if not talented with such disregard of the proper role of the federal government.

Now we have the leader of the executive branch taking on that talented role all by himself.

I just do not for the life of me feel that I am sufficiently qualified to interpret the Constitution of the United States to know where Article II of its text contains the phrase or conveys the the meaning "by hook or by crook."

But then, Mr. Obama was a Senior Lecturer at the Chicago Law School.

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

This is typical of socialism. When you run out of other people's money and then excuses as to why you are a failure, you blame everyone else. You point to your grandiose plan screaming that it would have worked except for those pesky patriots.

Obama's hope and change turned into no hope and blame.

UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

Mr. Will and other Conservative pundits continue to claim Obama has acted without Constitutional authority - but this does not make it so. And, attempting to tie Obama to the criminal acts of Nixon is sheer hyperbole. Our system has checks and balances in place to allow any one of us to take legal action against those doing unconstitutional acts. Mr. Will needs to put "his money where his mouth is" and file claims against Obama if he indeed has evidence Obama violated the Constitution.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

The American people voted for "hope and change" and we got it. We have nobody to blame but ourselves and even now there are many who still don't understand the ramifications of their vote.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

I agree with Mr. Will completely. Obama either does not understand the Constitution or he is willfully disregarding the limits placed on his office by the Constitution. If he does not understand the Constitution, he can be taught. If he is willfully disregarding the Constitution, then he must be removed from office.

The Constitution protects the people against any branch of government becoming a defacto tyrant. It requires that two branches work together to create and then to execute the laws of the land. The third branch is there to verify that the laws are legal under the restrictions placed on Congress by the Constitution.

It's very simple.

We do not have a king who can dictate law and we do not allow the President to choose which laws or which parts of a law he will enforce.

hoggityboo
Carthage, IL

There's not Constitutional authority for Congress to legislate on health care in the first place, and in the second place, there's no Executive Order authority which is binding upon any other than the Executive Branch.

But in the third place there are few in America that understand the first place or the second place.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Actually there’s more to the Constitution than just the few pages that we normally think of as being the Constitution.

The American nation is governed by a code of law accumulated over the years amending the original Constitution. The original Constitution is simply the First pages of the American code of law.

Therefore, every law passed by Congress and signed by the President should be regarded as an amendment to the Constitution with just as much validity as the original Constitution. Until the law is struck down by the Supreme Court it is the law of the land.

People who refuse to abide by the law of the land are usually known as criminals and should be charged as such. It is only after the law is struck down by the court can the offender avoid punishment.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

An administrative choice on when to implement a health care law is hardly a big crime in the Nixonian tradition. Nixon was systematically destroying people. George's bowtie is on too tight today.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I have no problem with these statements of support - so long as those statements are just as passionately applied when the president is a Republican. That these complaints will be applied for instances such as when the Patriot Act was passed - granting the NSA the wide sweeping powers it has. That these protestations are equally forceful when out government supplies drug dealers coverage to fund weapons to wars not authorized by congress. That these same feelings of unrest are raised when out government covertly bombs nations like Cambodia was in the 60s.

Our nation has endured many periods of constitutional questionability... the hearings on American affairs... or even the many broken treaties with native Americans. We have even seen our nation at war with certain faiths - like the Mormon Wars.... we have a long history of challenging times.

Too bad George Will seems to have a very short historical memory.

The Hammer
lehi, utah

@UTAHBill

Filing claims is difficult and it requires having standing. You can't take a case against them until you have been materially effected by it. This is why the current legal statues are so frustrating when people are crossing over on the seperation of powers. George will is completely right when he says the President has violated the constitution "Where does the Constitution confer upon presidents the 'executive authority' to ignore the separation of powers by revising laws?" which he has done by "effectively rewriting the ACA for the financial advantage of self-dealing members of Congress and their staffs." and by "ignoring the legal requirement concerning the employer mandate"

This is what happens when you decide to go it alone as a party and you democrats will one day be in the minority again and when that happens how will you have a leg to stand on? You wont because you blew up the bipartisanship that should have existed when you had total control!

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@UTAH Bill "...this does not make it so."

Well, then, what *does* make it so? State the authority by which a president may utterly disregard laws passed by Congress.

Post it right here --->

"...file claims against Obama...."

A person must be injured by a law before filing claims against it. As new portions of the law are implemented, new legal challenges will arise. You can count on it.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Ultra Bob has accurately stated one of the biggest problems in government. Government thinks that just because it has been allowed to disregard the Constitution in the past, that it still has that right.

The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. No law on any level of government can contradict the Constitution. The Supreme Court has not done its duty. It has allowed lower courts to legislate by legislating from the bench. The authority to legislate is left to the Legislative branch of government, not to the judicial or executive.

Simply put, the Constitution requires that for the federal level of government, ALL laws must be legislated from the Legislative branch of government; that all execution of those laws be performed by the Executive branch of government; that the constitutionality of those laws be verified by the Judicial branch of government.

If anyone in government exceeds his authority, the Legislative branch is duty bound to impeach that person: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Article II, Section 4.

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Re: "his pantry of excuses for failure is bare"

The reason Republicans have blocked and obstructed President Obama at every turn is so that they could say: "See, Obama is a failure." That's exactly what George Will does.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

I lived through the Nixon "break in" and the cover-up lies that followed. It was covered nonstop by the media in every living detail. When we see the various mis-steps of this president, the cover-ups, and the neglect of the media to fully cover his actions in each instance, etc., the Nixon so called criminal acts (re: UTAHBill) look like a picnic in the park. That is my opinion; I have lived to see both. I think many of the American people are now being greatly deceived because so many of them are dependent on government welfare, and they refuse to see and hear.

(And, before anyone responds on that last comment, I am not talking about Social Security which those of us who have actually worked, have paid into all our lives!)

Joan Watson
TWIN FALLS, ID

WOW poor president Nixon continues to take it on the chin! In a nut shell - Nixon destroyed his presidency and his adnimistration when he became aware of the burgulary at the Democrat office break in at Watergate. Instead of immediately and forcefully demand that those who planed and those who carried out the breakin be exposed and charged - he cowardly agreed/planed to stonewall and cover up the incident and those involved. He did ask the FBI to not get involved - but it was denied and it want no further. Nixon paid dearly for his lack of moral fortitude.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

If Pres. Obama truly believes that Congress cannot perform its Constitutional duties, then he can only bypass Congress by declaring Martial Law. Only then can the Executive Branch reign supreme.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Here is another way of looking at this: The spirit of the Lord is the the spirit of liberty. Every person, whether athiest, agnostic, or believer at some point becomes influenced by the truth and will shed the darkness that covers the mind and eyes. The Constitution is a light filled document, which is why writers (In this case George Will) and citizens of every persuasion have a chance to combat the darkness that pervades men and offices of power. Shame on any president that thinks he can go around the Constitution and shame on any citizen that defends the darkness on the grounds that it he is doing it for our good! Shame, shame, shame! 'Amazing grace' became famous for the truth that it told about having your eyes open to the truth. The cesspool in Washington is a reflection of the blindness of its citizens.

VST
Bountiful, UT

I have one question.

Where in the Constitution, or anywhere in subsequent constitutional case law, does it confer upon the President the Constitutional authority to "administratively add" or to "pick and choose" which portions of a law he/she is required to "faithfully execute" per that same Constitution?

Kimber
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm tired of the "sour grapes" that we hear so often in one of the "reddest" states in the U.S. Of course, most aren't going to be happy with Obama! Republicans would be much better served thinking about what they can do for a better future, instead of try and tear down the present. It would be nice to look forward to a good election year in 2016, but right now there isn't anyone in sight for you guys. I am happy with what we have and what efforts are being made.

An Independent that usually votes Democratic (because they at least try to find solutions)

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