Republicans are still committed to making the President fail no matter what he
proposes. There will be no deal. Not even if he says he agrees with all their
demands and wants to aquiesse. They'll still say NO.
Obama is not a member of the House. All revenue bills originate in the House.
His job is to see that all the laws passed by Congress are faithfully executed.
When he finally learns what his job is, maybe he can then learn to do his job.
The photo says it all. DUH!
@ Roland Kayser. Lets be honest! The Republicans have not stopped Obama in
anything. Obamcare is now the law, same sex marriage legal in many states, the
DOMA has been struck down, higher taxes on the "rich", doubled the
number of food stamp recipients, huge stimulus and bailouts, NSA running
rampant, no accountability and only stonewalling on IRS, Benghazi and A.P.
scandals, massive expansion of the federal government and on and on it goes.
Obama's agendas have not been stopped by Republicans. The debate should be
how have Obama's failed agendas harmed America, not STILL blaming
Republicans. Its certainly not Obama who has failed, its the Republicans who
have not stopped him in anything! Obama has successfully "fundamentally
transformed America" and still blames everyone else because our nation is
declining in every way a nation can decline.
@Roland,Normally I don't complete disagree with you, but this
time I do. There are three branches of government, each serving a
specific function and none able, by itself, to handle all duties of the federal
government. Congress is the legislative branch of government. No
other branch has authority to legislate. The House represents the people. As
nearly as possible, each citizen has equal access to a member of the House. The
House originates all revenue bills because the people pay those taxes. The
Senate represents the States. Each State is equally represented. The
President represents the States to the world. He signs treaties, which the
States ratify through their Senators. He has no legislative authority, but he
has the duty to enforce all laws passed by Congress (which have not been found
unconstitutional by the Court).The people wanted Republicans to tax
them. They elected a Republican House. The people wanted Democrats to represent
their States. They elected a Democrat Senate.The House is not part
of the Executive Branch. It has no obligation to accept anything that the
President suggests. It's duty is to represent the people, not to represent
With the help of the liberal press, Obama has become the new "Teflon"
president where nothing bad seems to stick to him. His policies are ruining this
country, yet he somehow is successful in puting much of the blame for the
consequences on the Republicans who have not really stopped him at anything,
just slowed him down a bit.Every single "compromise" with
congress just leads to higher taxes and more government spending. Government
continues to "Party On" with the taxpayer picking up the tab.Just like a teenager who thinks their dad is the "party of NO" because
they ask all the wrong questions (e.g. Can I stay out all night? Can I drop out
of school? Can I go on a road trip with all my friends?), Obama needs to ask
different questions if he wants a YES answer.Unfortunately, that is
not in his far-left progressive nature.
A Grand Bargain will never happen as long as one party continues to let the
perfect be the enemy of the good (e.g., all R candidates rejecting out of hand
$10 in cuts for every $1 in tax increase). @ Roland KayserWell said! The marching orders on the Right are to make this president fail by
any means necessary, even if it means turning us into Greece. @Mike
Richards – “When he finally learns what his job is, maybe he can
then learn to do his job.”You just gotta love the brass on the
Right for always beating up a guy for doing the exactly what every other
president in the modern era has done.
Mike Richards:"It's duty is to represent the people"
in reference to the House of Representatives. Think about that statement. I
know you believe in the intent of the Constitution but have you ever thought
about how political redistricting of congressional districts has essentially
disenfranchised the majority of Americans. More votes were cast for democrats
than republicans in the congressional races but republicans control the house,
but only through political manipulation. If Congress truly represented the
"will of the People" we would not be having this continual hateful,
unproductive, and spiteful confrontations. Please be honest. It should be no
secret the republicans really do hot have the mandate they think they have.
From the article: "The weakness in the president's plan is his
insistence that government spending can create jobs. It would do so only by
removing money from the economy, and generally such plans cost so much they
negate any gains. Previous stimulus spending initiatives ought to be proof
enough of this."Perhaps, for a change, you should consider that
you were mistaken, that what was proven is that the stimulus was too small, and
that another point of view is the correct one. That of Paul Krugman, for
example, who wrote about the stimulus package in 2009: "[I]t falls well
short of what's needed" and "The stimulus bill looks helpful but
inadequate," and later, in 2011, "It just wasn't big enough to do
Re: "Republicans are still committed to making the President fail no matter
what he proposes."Oh, the President needs no help from
Republicans to fail. His policies, his radical leftist regime, and his
strong-arm, Chicago-style political tactics will assure that, no matter what
Republicans do.That Republicans are attempting to obstruct the more
destructive of the President's policies is a mark in their favor, and will
be rewarded, come the 2014 elections. It's a badge of honor and should be
worn conspicuously by those with the guts to stand up to the most anti-American
president in America's history.
Re: "Perhaps, for a change, you should consider that you were mistaken . . .
."Or, maybe liberals could take a step back from their
inexplicably large egos, and consider the same thing.When something
is tried, not just once, but time and time again, and produces, not the
slightest evidence that it will ever work, it's lunacy to suggest the only
reason it didn't is that we were wrong not to abandon all reason and go
all-in on the lunacy.Particularly when the opposition's plan has worked,
time and time again.EVERY time it's been used.Callow true-believing liberals, though they'll never accept proper
principles of macroeconomics, would do well to study up on that famous quote on
insanity attributed to Dr. Einstein.
I have never heard of any Republicans who oppose tax cuts for corporations.
Stimulus bills are not only not helpful to make jobs, but make the economy worse
because the funds they use come from the private sector, the bureaucracy and
corruption take their share, and the legislators and bureaucrats decide where
the money goes for which they do not have the expertise.
@Mike RichardsThe president does have a constitutional duty with
regard to the legislative activities of Congress."He shall from
time to time...recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge
necessary and expedient...." (Article II, Section 3)I believe --
along with you -- that it is a foolish president who makes himself the head
negotiator for new legislation, and that presidents from both parties step over
lines of separation when they do so.My beef with Obama is that he
disregards another clause in the same section: "He shall take Care that the
Laws be faithfully executed...."
@Nate – “I believe -- along with you -- that it is a foolish
president who makes himself the head negotiator for new legislation”And yet Republicans are lightening quick to jump all over him when they
shout for “leadership” on getting something negotiated (Mitch
McConnell is notorious!).Congress looks like little more than a day
care center. When things are going the “toddler’s” way (at
least the ones in charge), they demand to be left alone. But the minute a toy
gets broken or a knee skinned, they scream for a Lyndon Johnson-type daddy to
come and provide spankings as needed.To your last point, it will be
interesting at some point in the future to read a first rate biography on the
Obama presidency. With all the hyperbolic windbags spinning the facts,
it’s hard to get a clear picture in real time. Of course
finding a first biography might prove difficult as what we’re likely to
get are some fawning books written by sycophants and a whole slew of stuff
written by the Rottweilers on the Right.Maybe David McCullough will
still be alive…
BO has offered nothing solid, just an idea. In the past when he has done this
and repubs have compromised, he has later backed out of his deal and the
lamestream media blamed the repubs. Once when he did reach a deal, reid and
schumer sabotaged it in the senateRoland,BO is failing on his
own, he needs no repub efforts there.Obamacare failed to bring costs down
or cover everyone. It failed to ensure access to healthcare. It failed to gain
popular support.Dudd-frank failed to end too-big-to-failThe porkulus failed to keep unemployment under 8% and failed to revitalize the
economy.everything he has strongarmed through has been a failure;
repubs are just trying to keep him from failing even more, and further damaging
us by his policies. Lightbearer,FDR’s stimuli during the
great depression extended it, they did not end it. All BO’s porkulus did
was drive us deeper in debt.
As far as the Democrats having the majority of the "popular vote" goes,
that is total nonsense, unless each princinct in each State were to be listed.
The Democrats have used their power to change boundaries at least as often as
have the Republicans. Stating that the total votes cast somehow makes the
Democrat statement true is false and misleading. We don't have a
"national" election for Representatives. Each State is authorized to
use whatever rules it deems necessary to allow each citizen of that State to
have an equal voice in electing a member of the House.The President
has no legislative authority. Period. He cannot suggest legislation. He CAN
state the conditions that he feels Congress should address, but he has
absolutely no authority to legislate. The LEGISLATIVE power is solely the power
of Congress. The Executive Branch is not part of the Legislative Branch. Obama
has no more "authoritity" to legislate than does any other citizen.The citizens of the United States pay all taxes, either directly or
indirectly. Corporations do not pay taxes. Customers of corporations pay all
taxes levied by the government. Foolish people demand that government tax
Grand Bargain. HAH!!! First of all Barack's idea of a bargain is to accept
HIS ideology, HIS bill, HIS plan with NO objections. Somehow that constitutes a
bargain in a demagogues mind. More borrowed money is hardly GRAND either to add
to our already 17 trillion Obama debt. Barack's thinking is so narrow, so
predictable, so restricted you can almost predict the words before he speaks
them. Let the man return to the Letterman show or The View or some other
Hollywood hangout where he can appeal to "his" people....the flaky , the
ignorant and the flat out dumb. Honestly, I think most people including many
liberals just ignore this guy anymore. What a sad era for America.
Mike RYour statement is not based on facts.
"We hope this predictable exchange is just the opening salvo in what
eventually will become a genuine effort toward compromise."Don't hold your breath.
Sorry Louie but mike r is absolutely correct. We all need to ask ourselves this
simple question, is each of us better off today than we were four years ago and
the answer is no. I am quite sure we are still lounging on hope and change.
No one will ever convince Obama that government is not the way to create jobs,
regardless of the evidence, but even when he has the money to create jobs --
i.e. the stimulus -- he doesn't spend it effectively. If a "grand
bargain" were to put a bunch of new money into government hands for the
purpose of job creation, what assurance would we have that the spending would be
any more effective than with the stimulus? None, and we'd just have even
more debt. There is no worthwhile grand bargain with Obama.
@Tyler D "...it's hard to get a clear picture in real time."Not that hard. You just have to pay attention.For example
--Congress rejects the DREAM act, but Obama institutes most of it by
executive order.Obama refuses to cut off aid to Egypt, although the law
says it must end when there is a coup.The law prohibits assassination of
American citizens, but Obama did it anyway.The law prohibits using the IRS
to persecute political enemies, but Obama targets tea party groups.The law
does not empower the IRS to exact ACA fines in states without exchanges, but
they will anyway.Obama moved bin Laden records from military custody to
CIA custody in order to avoid FOIA requests.Obama made recess appointments
when Congress was not in recess.Obama's abortifacient mandate
violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.The ACA provides a clear
start date for the employer mandate, but Obama delays it for a year.These are the specific reasons why I'm concerned about Obama's
execution of the laws. How can anyone bargain with him, when they know
he'll just ignore the parts of the law he doesn't agree with?
to patriotYou can say the exact same about Boehener, McConnell,
Cruz, Ryan, & McCain being whiney belligerent obstructionists pandering to
their base while appearing on Fox News Sunday or Lou Dobbs.
re: high school fanMy portfolio has finally returned to 2007 levels.
Other than that, I am no better or worse than I was 4 yrs ago. Any
change would because of the choices I have made.
I say no to a tax increase, just like the Congressional Republicans. Almost
everything Obama puts forward has revenues tied to it. I don't blame them
a bit for saying no.