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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 7 2013 11:44 a.m. MDT

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Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

Why doesn't Mr. Davis criticize or bemoan the Democratic Party for monolithic voting, i.e. Affordable Care Act, or it's radical shift to the left from the positions of the 1960's? I sense he is frustrated that he cannot marshal the grass roots effort to elect the people he feels represent his point of view as delegates in caucus meetings.

I do not hold his youth and inexperience against him for not being able to recall the Democratic Party and candidates of the 1960's, many of whom would be willing and able to compromise on issues, not the severe radical progressive party it is today.

Political parties are private organizations. They can select their delegates how they wish. Mr. Davis is free to organize his own party, platform and select candidates as he/they choose. I do disagree with his attempting to change, through a vote of people who are not members of the private organization, how an organization is run. If enough people register as Republican organize themselves and elect delegates they can change the party's position and processes.

Mr. Davis is sounding a different drum beat than the Republican Party wants to march to.

SLars
Provo, UT

Wanting immigration laws enforced is not extreme. Most of America see it as moderate. The extreme liberal view of the media is dividing our country. The media and congress needs to separate themselves from the special interest groups that have declared war on American labor.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

The only structural change needed is to make Congressional Districts look like actual geometric shapes.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

I disagree with Mr. Davis.

Being conservative, moderate or liberal, in and of itself, means nothing without context. When we look at the biggest problems in America and when we look at how those problems came about, then we can decide which approach to take.

One of our greatest problems is the economic melt-down. Too many people are unemployed or underemployed. They can't pay their bills. They look to government for assistance. Government promises them anything, but funds nothing. The deficit increases. To keep in power, those in government, who made those misleading promises, "buy" votes by making even more outrageous promises. Welfare perpetuates the problem. Compromise will not solve that problem.

We have a contract with government, the Constitution, which spells out which services we expect government to provide. There can be no compromise on that contract. Government MUST provide those services and ALL of us must pay for those services. Everything else is to be left to the States or to the people - without compromise.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"We have a contract with government, the Constitution, which spells out which services we expect government to provide."
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The Constitution spells out nothing of the kind or anything that is policy specific. Its Preamble cites only general objectives to “form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity."

SCfan
clearfield, UT

I don't know how old Richard Davis is. To remember Scranton, like I do, makes him pretty old. However, his thesis sounds like high school civics. Believe it or not, in this countrys history we have gone through much more political turmoil than we are now. The two parties are pretty well divided, as is the nation as a whole. That the country is about 50/50 on many major issues is exactly WHY (Mr.Davis) the Government is. We the people are electing for the most part exactly the people we want to represent us. Particularly in the House of Reps, which is the most close to the grassroots of the people. I do agree with the notion of gerrymandering having affected that to some degree, but it's with both parties so it is largly a wash. Point is, the American Government is extemely divided on many issues because the people of America are extremely divided on those issues. Nothing new or wrong with that. And in future elections, things will change one way or the other. That's democracy.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Looks like Richard Davies just "came out" as a RINO and Republican-Lite.

Because in the puritan political world of Utah -- you are either uber-far-right or uber-far-left...
Black or White,
In or Out,
All or Nothing,
My way or the Highway,

i.e., extremism...

There IS no Moderation in All things here...

that said;
Welcome to the REAL world Richard ~ Morpheus

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

The most important civil rights legislation came under Eisenhower and would you believe Nixon. Social programs are not exclusive to Democrats, but we should live in our means. I don't go for being moderate on third term abortion.

Woody
Newbury Park, CA

I agree with Mr. Davis to an extent. The GOP conceeds 25% of Congressional seats to Democrats because they cannot appeal to liberals or minority groups, etc. This leads to Detroit, and the political collapse and corruption of one party rule. If we say that a moderate is a RINO, Republicans will never offer alternatives. Reform minded candidates need to be supported by one major party or the other. I am not seeking candidates that compromise, I am seeking candidates that are original thinkers. Don't be for or against Amnesty or Obamacare, design and sell something better.. That is the job of moderates.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

A constitutional scholar once told me political parties were never envisioned in the U. S. Constitution "and have never been productive." I'm beginning to see what he means. Is there really a Democratic and Republican version of everything in the world? A law requiring everyone to carry health insurance seemed like a great idea to Republicans when they proposed it, but now that a Democratic President has embraced the concept its a horrible idea. Meanwhile honest people are made to suffer because of the inaction of Congress. Yes, we need a return of the moderates from both parties, but voters have to support them.

FatMan86
West Jordan, UT

Mr Davis is right on the money here. The extremists on both ends of the political spectrum have hijacked both the Republican and Democratic political parties. "My way or the highway" really has become the prevailing political sentiment in America, and it has lead to extraordinary governmental gridlock.

I highly doubt that this is what the Founding Fathers had in mind. The Constitution itself is a masterful document that was created through a process of compromise among those who were part of it's creation and subsequent ratification. Had those men not been willing to compromise, we would not have a Constitution today.

The extremists have somehow convinced the mainstream that all who have differing political opinions are "evil", and compromise with "evil" is "evil" itself. Don't kid yourself either, both political parties do it, and they do it a lot.

Imagine what could be accomplished if we were all willing to look for and find common ground with those who have differing opinions. Perhaps if we respected each other a little more this would be easier. Common ground will always make compromise easier and more will get done. Until that happens though, the nutjobs will continue to rule.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

As much as we need moderation, we're not going to tolerate it.

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

The Republican commenters here are all up in arms because Richard Davis points out the obvious. I think a new moderate party might put the other two out of business (which is exactly where they ought to be). The GOP at present is in danger of splitting between those who want to govern and those who merely want to make a point. Obviously, the American populace has gotten tired of those who keep trying to make the same point over and over. They are the reason Congress's approval rating is at an all-time low (ranging from 6 to 21 percent in various polls, with an average of 14.8) and it's disapproval rating averages 75.8 percent.

Whether sanity prevails and the Republicants once again become the Republicans or whether Mike Lee and his fellow obstructionists prevail is still up in the air. If the latter, then count on the GOP to diminish, since a Rand Paul or Marco Rubio could never appeal to more than about 30 percent of the voters in a presidential election. But is it likely that only more embarrassing defeats will move the GOP to toward the center.

TheProudDuck
Newport Beach, CA

It would have been useful if Mr. Davis could have identified exactly what was "extreme" about Governor Romney's positions on health care, foreign policy, and immigration. As your colleagues in the math department would say, Professor, "show your work."

Also, it would have been useful to identify some examples of "extremism" on the other side. Otherwise, you come across as a typical liberal for whom "extreme" is simply a synonym for "not liberal."

I like what Martin Luther King said in "Letter from Birmingham Jail," several months before Barry Goldwater said something similar and more widely remembered: Being an extremist for justice is a *good* thing. I would add that, in a time where the nice collegial bipartisan backscratching of years past has put us on the glide slope to national insolvency, a little extremism in the application of basic math would not be amiss.

TheProudDuck
Newport Beach, CA

Also, since Mr. Davis didn't see fit to go into details, it bears reminding that Governor Romney's "extreme" position on immigration consisted of...enforcing the current immigration law.

His "extreme" position on healthcare: Not trying to radically restructure the healthcare system, and trying to point out the unworkable aspects in Obamacare, which the Obama administration has delayed because aspects of it are...unworkable.

His "extreme" position on foreign policy: Don't stop shooting at terrorists until we have a good idea they've stopped shooting at us.

Dear sweet merciful heavens! A madman! Extreeeeeeeme!

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

The problem with moderates is this: Everybody thinks they're moderate, almost nobody truly is.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

moderates? Like John McCain and Lindsey Graham? I don't think so. Actually what is REALLY needed is more men and women of moral and constitutional courage like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz. Ronald Reagan preached of the need for more BOLD COLORS and less pale pastels (moderates). I agree.

Linus
Bountiful, UT

To those of us who are Constitutional conservatives, the majority in the Republican Party appears moderate. And the majority in the Democratic Party appears treasonous.

Mr. Davis has positioned himself well to the left of moderate Republicans. There are no moderate Democrats! No Democrat politician believes in a strict interpretation of the Constitution. The executive branch refuses to execute all the laws of the land. The judicial won't hold the executive or the legislative branches to anything near a strict adherence to the Constitution's requirements. And the legislative branch won't defend its prerogatives, bowing down to the executive will as manifested by royal Executive Orders.

The oath of office does not suggest a "moderate" defense of the Constitution.

Linus
Bountiful, UT

DesNews: "Your comment is awaiting moderation and will appear once approved."

How can we get a conservative viewpoint published when all comments must await "moderation." DesNews censors thus be required to support and enforce Mr. Davis's call for "moderation."

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Linus,

"To those of us who are Constitutional conservatives, the majority in the Republican Party appears moderate. And the majority in the Democratic Party appears treasonous."
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The Constitution itself is a conservative document. I’m a Constitutional conservative which is why my political and social views are liberal. That’s not doubletalk. It means I see how resistance to common sense change stupidly invites drastic upheavals that can easily turn revolutionary and destructive.

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