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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

It's irritating isn't it Mr Neale? We can thank our wonderful legislators for this little piece tax finagling. Utah, where we hate high taxes but never met a fee we didn't love. It's all about semantics but my pocket is still lighter for it.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Yet another example of how our complicated tax system is used to nickel and dime us to death while politicians try to control our behavior and buy votes by tweaking it here or there.

Instead of a simple to understand tax code where all income is taxed at a fixed rate, we have multiple thousand+ page books of tax regulations that require a professional accountant to decipher. Even then, it is very hard and expensive to comply with the law and to try and make sure you are not paying more than you should.

So now we have a system that is completely unmanageable for the average taxpayer and sold to the average voter as a means to "stick it to the rich guy" in the interest of "fairness". What they fail to tell you is about all the little guys that get caught in the dragnet going after all those "evil rich dudes".

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

what is the difference between a "fee" and a "tax"? Isn't a "fee" something that we pay for direct services? Isn't a "tax" the money that we all pool together to pay for a general service that benefits all of us?

I pay a "fee" for the water that I buy from the city. I pay a "tax" for police protection.

The water that I buy from the city directly benefits me. I use it to beautify my yard and to handle my essentail water needs. At least that portion that I use for my yard should not be seen as a "tax". That portion benefits me only. Perhaps the portion required for essential services (sewer) should be listed as a "tax". Perhaps it shouldn't matter.

Taxes should be deductible. Fees are like our power bills. Fees should not be deductible.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I appreciate the great residential trash service of Salt Lake County. I especially appreciate the fact that it costs less than the privatized residential trash services.

I wish that there were no tax deductibles for anything. Especially churches, charities, political groups etc. etc. etc.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:ugottabkidn

Yes, the implementation of "fees" was a trick Mitt Romney used when he became governor of MA to bring in more revenue without raising "taxes."

trekker
Salt Lake, UT

They may call things a fee but I find it interesting that we write the check out to the Utah State Tax Commission.

Neanderthal
Pheonix, AZ

Deduct them all. If you think it's a tax, it's a tax. The amount is so minute that the IRS won't touch it. They have bigger fish to fry. The IRS audits only about two percent of returns.

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@Mike Richards:
"Taxes should be deductible. Fees are like our power bills. Fees should not be deductible."

At the federal level, taxing is authorized but fees and penalties are not. There's nothing in the US Constitution about fees or penalties (that's the way I read it). But, per the Supreme Court, a fee/penalty can be collected as a tax such as the Obamacare 'penalty.'

@JoeCapitalist2:
"So now we have a system that is completely unmanageable for the average taxpayer..."

The tax code is/was created mostly by lawyers... It was intentionally made complicated for lawyer job security.

"What they fail to tell you is about all the little guys that get caught in the dragnet..."

Little guys rarely pay income taxes. The biggest problem for the little guy is to figure all the credits and refunds available, such as the Earned Income Tax Credit, child care credit, etc.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Mike Richards" I think you have the definition of taxes and fees slightly wrong.

Taxes are things that the government uses to collect money, but require political action and public debate to change.

Fees are things that the government uses to collect money but can be changed at any time for any reason without public input.

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