Congradulations Kavika,Good Luck this season. Great Choice, but keep
an open mind; a lot of time until signing day. If you go on a Mission you have
options still when you get back. I hear you have cousin at Brighton HS, Jackson
Barton. You can always go to the Utes and play college with him?
AlottaBalatasUnfortunately for U, that's not a compliment
anywhere except for under that crimson bubble on the hill.
@daffyduck - "Don't fool yourself, you're a typical utah
'fan'."Thanks Ducky! I appreciate the compliment.
UteologyZiggy was one of the highest drafted players in the country
this year, higher even than Utah's Star, but neither Ziggy nor Star will be
playing with BYU's or Utah's new recruits.As far as
current players are concerned, remind us how many Utah players were included on
national individual award watch lists for this coming season; that would give U
a real measuring stick of just how good the current players in your program are,
since those watch lists include the top 50 or so players in the country at their
respective position.Once again we see that the Utes are all talk,
but no walk, when it comes to nationally relevant performance.The
Utes have NEVER had a national individual award winner, which completely debunks
your silly assertion that Utah's recruits will be "playing at the
highest level possible."
@WannabeeLosing athletic programs and poor academic institutions
like Utah, argue irrelevant minutia.Established National Brands like
BYU, don't need to.
UteologyEast Salt Lake City, Utah@Riverton Cougar"my assertion is that playing in a PAC 12 team is not necessarily
"playing at the highest level possible"----------It is "one" of the highest if he wants to compare himself to see how
he measures to NFL talent."Losing to teams with a bunch of NFL
talent is still losing. Losing more than you win is not playing at the highest
possible level. It's "losing at the highest possible level."
Kavika from an old Syracusian now living in Provo, you made a great decission to
play for a remarkable school!
@Riverton Cougarmy assertion is that playing in a PAC 12 team is not
necessarily "playing at the highest level possible"----------It is "one" of the highest if he wants to
compare himself to see how he measures to NFL talent.The 2013 NFL
Draft by conference:1. SEC 632. ACC 303. PAC-12 288. MWC 7NFL PLAYERS ON 2012 53-MAN ROSTERS BY BCS-AQ CONFERENCE1. SEC – 2682. Big Ten – 2343. ACC – 2314.
Pac-12 – 2185. Big 12 – 1416. Big East – 94NFL Talent per PAC-12 school:USC 53Oregon 39Stanford 32Utah 31Arizona 20Colorado 15Washington
State 11 BYU with 13 current players fits between Colorado and
Washington State.Regardless, congrats to Fonua! Getting a
scholarship is an honor in it self.
Before I get excited about this kid coming to BYU, does anyone know if his high
school coach somehow related to Kyle Whittingham? I just want to make sure this
kid isn't going to get pressured into switching his committment in the 11th
hour so I don't waste time getting all excited.
@WildCougar:The MBA ranking that you mention is actually referring
to the Executive MBA program (although they conveniently left that part out).
BYU's regular MBA program is consistently ranked much higher than the
U's, but the U's EMBA program is ranked higher than BYU's EMBA
program (again, a little deceptive how they fail to note that in their
@allottabalatasDon't fool yourself, you're a typical utah
@Elmer FuddMix in a little reading comprehension please!
"SOS?" "You guys?" "Explain why Utah's record will be
bad?"You've heard none of that from me. But then again
I'm not obsessively posting on every article so it's understandable
how you may have missed it. The only thing that matters, in my opinion, is
scoreboard. USU owns it until Utah can reverse it; kudos to them - They deserve
respect. Same for BYU when it happens; recent history tells us it will every
third or fourth year. Until then, I'll sit back and enjoy the
preseason hype about SOS, no-star recruits, Band of Brothers, Qwest Perfected,
blah-blah-blah . . .
@alottaballatasWe're talking about sos this year aren't
we? Not 2004. This year utah is a drag on all of their opponents sos because
utah is....bad. At least that is what the guys that us tell us who has the
best/worst sos have to say. And utah "fans" are all about sos
aren't you? I mean you guys brag/whine about it incessantly, especially
when you are trying to preemptively try to explain why utah's record will
be so bad this year.Fail.LOL!
@Duckhunter I can't believe it, Elmer Fudd and I finally agree
on something!!!"In fact utah also drags down the sos of both BYU
and usu." The fact that both teams have demonstrated their inferiority on
the field doesn't help SOS either.Since the turn of the century
. . . Utah vs. USU = 10-1Utah vs. BYU = 9-5For both
teams, playing Utah really must be a "drag!"
Interesting comments by Fonua.""I already knew I wanted BYU
a long time ago," said Fonua. "It was mostly my parents who wanted me to
wait and make sure I would make the right decision and everything, but I've
always wanted to come to BYU for a long time. When BYU would send me letters it
was always more personal and about me. Like, it was always about staying humble
and things like that. When Utah sent me letters it was always about ‘Look
what we have.’"In short, BYU's approach was more
about personal development rather than about what a player could provide for
them."Yeah, I don't want to make it sound bad. but
yeah," said Fonua."
I like the kid and he's received great coaching from Russ Jones at
Syracuse. He reminds me of a lot of underrated kids that Utah likes to
"coach-up" to NFL careers. Good get by the Y. Sorry the
Utes missed on him.
Howard....I will tell you why BYU is not in one of the major college
conferences. This past Saturday night I was at a high school class reunion
where I had a chance to visit with Bill Byrne. He just retired as the A.D. at
Texas A&M. He was also the A.D. at Oregon and Nebraska before that. The
question was...what will it take for BYU to be accepted in one of the major
conferences and he said, "play on Sunday. Until they change their view of
Sunday play, they will not be invited." He also mentioned that BYU is a
nationally recognized sports program, and many would like to have them, but it
all comes down to Sunday play. BYU will do just fine where they are. They just
happen to be in the "Mothership Conference" you know what I mean...ESPN.
Very nice get for the Cougs!!! Welcome to the Blue!!!Go Cougs!!!Go Utes!!!
Great pick up for the cougs! He is a great player and seems like a better guy
just the qualities that all athletes should have. Can't wait to see him on
the field. Replies: @GoRed - That's one more recruit than what
you have. @Howard S. - If it wasn't for the liberals that control the
pac, BYU would be in the pac and not the frutes. BYU is a far better fit for the
pac. FanBase Bigger, Total Athletic Department better, Academics far better. By
the way while I am on the academics subject, where did the u get the stats to
claim they are the 4th best in the west and 1st in the state for business
programs. Because that is a complete fabrication. usnews.comWay to live in
your own delusions on and off the field university of utah....typical ute.Go Cougs!!!
@howieIt is really obvious why some pac 12 teams, like utah for
instance, have strong schedules, and some, like oregon for instance, have weak
schedules. In utah's case their schedule is strong because they
play oregon in conference and then out of conference play top forty teams like
BYU and usu. In oregon's case their schedule is weak because rather than
playing themselves in conference they play teams like utah considered to be far
into the bottom half of the teams in the country. In fact utah also drags down
the sos of both BYU and usu.One thing is very obvious, having teams
like oregon, BYU and usu on your schedule makes your predicted sos very good, on
the otherhand having utah on your schedule is a severe blow to your sos, almost
to the point of single handedly ruining your sos. Hopefully those teams can
overcome the disadvantage playing such a lightly regarded team as utah gives to
them, but it won't be easy, playing weak teams like that is simply a stigma
that is hard to overcome.
Something TTA:" I believe Nike has it right (and they evaluate/test a
lot of kids). He'll be a great player at the next level!"You are spot on. He was the defensive MVP at Oregons Nike camp. Someday poor
ute trolls like Howie will realize that the PAC12 luster will wear off for Utah
when they aren't winning or doing anything notable in any sport at any
time. Then recruits in Utah will "see the light" again and attend a
school that actually wins, is perennially ranked, and enjoys post season play.
Fonua is the real deal! He's one of those talents that hasn't been
noticed nationally because he was injured as a sophomore in high school. Nike
had him as a top 30 propect in the country. He's a steal for BYU. I
believe Nike has it right (and they evaluate/test a lot of kids). He'll be
a great player at the next level!
It looks like I touched a sore spot, Howard. My mention of not knowing the
strength of schedule until after the season is correct; those preseason rankings
are particularly off.As far as saying Utah players have chosen to
test their skills in one of the toughest conferences in the conference. For one,
these recruits won't playing in Utah's 2013 schedule. Will their 2014
be tougher?Secondly, you dodged the question and resorted to mocking
me instead. How can you have a conference be considered soooo strong when the
highest PAC 12 team plays such a weak schedule? Hint: maybe the PAC isn't
overall as tough as you would think.
@Riverton CougarOh and one more point... unless the DN mods deem
that I'm piling on... but you brought it up...8
PAC12 teams have 2013 schedules ranked tougher than BYU (even in BYU's
so-called toughest season ever)... and you ask why some PAC12 teams have weak
schedules?Are you really asking that question?
@Riverton CougarMr. Riverton Cougar - I never said
playing "a" PAC12 team was playing at the highest level possible... I
did say that that Utah players have chosen to test their skills in on of the
strongest conferences in the country...Do you really want to dispute
that?Oh... and first you bring up pre-season rankings to support
your point... and then when it doesn't work out so well you say "we
really won't know sos until after the season"?Is that what
"Oregon SOS? maybe a more relevant comparison is the 8 PAC12
teams that have higher sos than BYU"Why? Oregon and 3 other
schools in the PAC play a weaker schedule than BYU. However, most teams on a PAC
schedule are PAC teams. That means that merely being in the PAC does not equate
to having a harder schedule."Not sure why you would single out
Oregon... unless... could it be... that you were just cherry picking your
comparisons to support a lame assertion..."Cherry picking? Lame
assertion? Like I said above, if the PAC were such a great conference, why do
some conference team have such weak strength of schedules when most of their
opponents are PAC teams?Rather than respond you just accuse me of
cherry picking and making "lame assertions" when my assertion is that
playing in a PAC 12 team is not necessarily "playing at the highest level
possible". Besides, we won't really know the strength of schedule until
after the season.
@Riverton CougarOregon SOS? maybe a more relevant
comparison is the 8 PAC12 teams that have higher sos than BYU... which in its
toughest season ever barely breaks the top 50...Not sure why you
would single out Oregon... unless... could it be... that you were just cherry
picking your comparisons to support a lame assertion...naaahhhhhh...
you wouldn't cherry pick your stats...just because the facts keep getting
in your way.... would you?
Riverton Cougar,113th. Tied with Utah State. Good find.
"A one-star recruit with no other offers. No big deal."Actually, scout rated him 3 stars. And he did have another offer: Utah. Oops,
those facts just keep getting in the way. Sorry to burst your bubble."Not everyone wants to play at the highest level possible... Utah players
have chosen to test their skills in one of the strongest conferences in the
country..."Howard, do you want to guess Oregon's strength
of schedule for the upcoming season? Being in one of the strongest conferences
in the country, you would probably guess it is top 10 or top 20. Or top 30. Or
at least top 40. Go take a look at it.
@Max-was-rightFour bowl games?BYU only has 2 bowl
opportunities committed after this year... And that is to a 3rd tier bowl...Oh... and BYU has no committed bowl opportunity for the 2014 season.
@Tom in CASoooo....If BYU has such a high national
profile... Why have they been past over by every major conference in the
Guess he wanted to play in bowl games his 4 years of college.
" ........ If BYU was a nationally recognized and established program
....... "Howard - are you a johnny-come-lately? I have some news
for you: It is actually utah that is not nationally recognized. Get a grip.
@PipesActually Mr. Pipes.... If BYU was a nationally recognized and
established program they wouldn't have been passed over by ever major
conference in the country.
@DuckhunterActually... Mr. DH... Utah players have chosen to test
their skills in one of the strongest conferences in the country... I have no
problem at all if someone chooses a different path...
A one-star recruit with no other offers. No big deal.
@howard sThat's a great point, all of utah's players have
decided they don't want to play at the highest level, that is why they
picked a losing team at the bottom of its conference.
C'mon now, this is great news! After hearing that Utah is now dominating
the recruiting battles, it's good to hear there are still a few who still
prefer to play for BYU.Go Cougs! Good luck to the Utes too!
@ Howard SCase in point, the Pac-12. In order to pad their stats,
the Pac frequently schedules patsies and lower level opponents to ensure their
bowl eligibility. They even invite lower level programs (utes) to join their
conference to ensure victories for their marquee programs.It's easy
to see how an athlete like Kavika would choose a nationally recognized and well
established program like BYU over a flash in the pan, basement dweller of the
Howard S."Not everyone wants to play at the highest level
possible... and that's okay... everyone has different priorities..."That's obviously true of every Utah recruit; why pick Utah if you
could play for USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma,
Florida, Miami or Florida State?
Sounds like a nice get for BYU. Welcome Kavika!
@ DuckhunterNot everyone wants to play at the highest level
possible... and that's okay... everyone has different priorities...
What happened christina? azute? naval?
Welcome Kavika. Nice to have a Syracuse Titan playing for the Cougs. It's
kind of interesting that a kid with a 4.48 40 and a SPARQ score of 123.8, and an
MVP at Nike camp isn't ranked by espn or 247, but a 3 star by scout.com.
Doesn't really matter, I've watched him plenty in person playing for
Syracuse and he's a stud safety but also has quickness and offensive skills
as well. Nice get for BYU.
Welcome Kavika! The best thing I read about you was your desire to serve the
Lord and your fellow man. Have a great senior season, remember the purpose and
we look forward to seeing you on the field. Go Cougars.
In before Chris B and other Ute trolls claim that Utah didn't really offer
him a scholarship....
Glad to have ya! Congrats Kavika! Go Cougs!!