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BYU football: BYU receives a commitment from Syracuse defensive back Kavika Fonua

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  • Pig Skin Fan Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:31 a.m.

    Congradulations Kavika,

    Good Luck this season. Great Choice, but keep an open mind; a lot of time until signing day. If you go on a Mission you have options still when you get back. I hear you have cousin at Brighton HS, Jackson Barton. You can always go to the Utes and play college with him?

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 8, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    AlottaBalatas

    Unfortunately for U, that's not a compliment anywhere except for under that crimson bubble on the hill.

  • AlottaBalatas Centerville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    @daffyduck - "Don't fool yourself, you're a typical utah 'fan'."

    Thanks Ducky! I appreciate the compliment.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    Uteology

    Ziggy was one of the highest drafted players in the country this year, higher even than Utah's Star, but neither Ziggy nor Star will be playing with BYU's or Utah's new recruits.

    As far as current players are concerned, remind us how many Utah players were included on national individual award watch lists for this coming season; that would give U a real measuring stick of just how good the current players in your program are, since those watch lists include the top 50 or so players in the country at their respective position.

    Once again we see that the Utes are all talk, but no walk, when it comes to nationally relevant performance.

    The Utes have NEVER had a national individual award winner, which completely debunks your silly assertion that Utah's recruits will be "playing at the highest level possible."

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    @Wannabee

    Losing athletic programs and poor academic institutions like Utah, argue irrelevant minutia.

    Established National Brands like BYU, don't need to.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 7, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Uteology
    East Salt Lake City, Utah

    @Riverton Cougar

    "my assertion is that playing in a PAC 12 team is not necessarily "playing at the highest level possible"

    ----------

    It is "one" of the highest if he wants to compare himself to see how he measures to NFL talent."

    Losing to teams with a bunch of NFL talent is still losing. Losing more than you win is not playing at the highest possible level. It's "losing at the highest possible level."

  • Snark Provo, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 8:32 p.m.

    Kavika from an old Syracusian now living in Provo, you made a great decission to play for a remarkable school!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 6, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    my assertion is that playing in a PAC 12 team is not necessarily "playing at the highest level possible"

    ----------

    It is "one" of the highest if he wants to compare himself to see how he measures to NFL talent.

    The 2013 NFL Draft by conference:

    1. SEC 63
    2. ACC 30
    3. PAC-12 28
    8. MWC 7

    NFL PLAYERS ON 2012 53-MAN ROSTERS BY BCS-AQ CONFERENCE
    1. SEC – 268
    2. Big Ten – 234
    3. ACC – 231
    4. Pac-12 – 218
    5. Big 12 – 141
    6. Big East – 94

    NFL Talent per PAC-12 school:

    USC 53
    Oregon 39
    Stanford 32
    Utah 31
    Arizona 20
    Colorado 15
    Washington State 11


    BYU with 13 current players fits between Colorado and Washington State.

    Regardless, congrats to Fonua! Getting a scholarship is an honor in it self.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    Before I get excited about this kid coming to BYU, does anyone know if his high school coach somehow related to Kyle Whittingham? I just want to make sure this kid isn't going to get pressured into switching his committment in the 11th hour so I don't waste time getting all excited.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 1:09 a.m.

    @WildCougar:

    The MBA ranking that you mention is actually referring to the Executive MBA program (although they conveniently left that part out). BYU's regular MBA program is consistently ranked much higher than the U's, but the U's EMBA program is ranked higher than BYU's EMBA program (again, a little deceptive how they fail to note that in their advertising).

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 10:04 p.m.

    @allottabalatas

    Don't fool yourself, you're a typical utah "fan".

  • AlottaBalatas Centerville, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 9:45 p.m.

    @Elmer Fudd

    Mix in a little reading comprehension please! "SOS?" "You guys?" "Explain why Utah's record will be bad?"

    You've heard none of that from me. But then again I'm not obsessively posting on every article so it's understandable how you may have missed it. The only thing that matters, in my opinion, is scoreboard. USU owns it until Utah can reverse it; kudos to them - They deserve respect. Same for BYU when it happens; recent history tells us it will every third or fourth year.

    Until then, I'll sit back and enjoy the preseason hype about SOS, no-star recruits, Band of Brothers, Qwest Perfected, blah-blah-blah . . .

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    @alottaballatas

    We're talking about sos this year aren't we? Not 2004. This year utah is a drag on all of their opponents sos because utah is....bad. At least that is what the guys that us tell us who has the best/worst sos have to say. And utah "fans" are all about sos aren't you? I mean you guys brag/whine about it incessantly, especially when you are trying to preemptively try to explain why utah's record will be so bad this year.

    Fail.

    LOL!

  • AlottaBallatas Centerville, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    I can't believe it, Elmer Fudd and I finally agree on something!!!

    "In fact utah also drags down the sos of both BYU and usu." The fact that both teams have demonstrated their inferiority on the field doesn't help SOS either.

    Since the turn of the century . . .
    Utah vs. USU = 10-1
    Utah vs. BYU = 9-5

    For both teams, playing Utah really must be a "drag!"

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    Interesting comments by Fonua.

    ""I already knew I wanted BYU a long time ago," said Fonua. "It was mostly my parents who wanted me to wait and make sure I would make the right decision and everything, but I've always wanted to come to BYU for a long time. When BYU would send me letters it was always more personal and about me. Like, it was always about staying humble and things like that. When Utah sent me letters it was always about ‘Look what we have.’"

    In short, BYU's approach was more about personal development rather than about what a player could provide for them.

    "Yeah, I don't want to make it sound bad. but yeah," said Fonua."

  • AlottaBalatas Centerville, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 4:30 p.m.

    I like the kid and he's received great coaching from Russ Jones at Syracuse. He reminds me of a lot of underrated kids that Utah likes to "coach-up" to NFL careers.

    Good get by the Y. Sorry the Utes missed on him.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 5, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    Howard....I will tell you why BYU is not in one of the major college conferences. This past Saturday night I was at a high school class reunion where I had a chance to visit with Bill Byrne. He just retired as the A.D. at Texas A&M. He was also the A.D. at Oregon and Nebraska before that. The question was...what will it take for BYU to be accepted in one of the major conferences and he said, "play on Sunday. Until they change their view of Sunday play, they will not be invited." He also mentioned that BYU is a nationally recognized sports program, and many would like to have them, but it all comes down to Sunday play. BYU will do just fine where they are. They just happen to be in the "Mothership Conference" you know what I mean...ESPN.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Aug. 5, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    Very nice get for the Cougs!!! Welcome to the Blue!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • WildCougar Holladay, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    Great pick up for the cougs! He is a great player and seems like a better guy just the qualities that all athletes should have. Can't wait to see him on the field.
    Replies:
    @GoRed - That's one more recruit than what you have.
    @Howard S. - If it wasn't for the liberals that control the pac, BYU would be in the pac and not the frutes. BYU is a far better fit for the pac. FanBase Bigger, Total Athletic Department better, Academics far better. By the way while I am on the academics subject, where did the u get the stats to claim they are the 4th best in the west and 1st in the state for business programs. Because that is a complete fabrication. usnews.com
    Way to live in your own delusions on and off the field university of utah....typical ute.
    Go Cougs!!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    @howie

    It is really obvious why some pac 12 teams, like utah for instance, have strong schedules, and some, like oregon for instance, have weak schedules.

    In utah's case their schedule is strong because they play oregon in conference and then out of conference play top forty teams like BYU and usu. In oregon's case their schedule is weak because rather than playing themselves in conference they play teams like utah considered to be far into the bottom half of the teams in the country. In fact utah also drags down the sos of both BYU and usu.

    One thing is very obvious, having teams like oregon, BYU and usu on your schedule makes your predicted sos very good, on the otherhand having utah on your schedule is a severe blow to your sos, almost to the point of single handedly ruining your sos. Hopefully those teams can overcome the disadvantage playing such a lightly regarded team as utah gives to them, but it won't be easy, playing weak teams like that is simply a stigma that is hard to overcome.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Something TTA:
    " I believe Nike has it right (and they evaluate/test a lot of kids). He'll be a great player at the next level!"

    You are spot on. He was the defensive MVP at Oregons Nike camp. Someday poor ute trolls like Howie will realize that the PAC12 luster will wear off for Utah when they aren't winning or doing anything notable in any sport at any time. Then recruits in Utah will "see the light" again and attend a school that actually wins, is perennially ranked, and enjoys post season play.

  • Something to think about Ogden, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 8:12 a.m.

    Fonua is the real deal! He's one of those talents that hasn't been noticed nationally because he was injured as a sophomore in high school. Nike had him as a top 30 propect in the country. He's a steal for BYU. I believe Nike has it right (and they evaluate/test a lot of kids). He'll be a great player at the next level!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 6:50 a.m.

    It looks like I touched a sore spot, Howard. My mention of not knowing the strength of schedule until after the season is correct; those preseason rankings are particularly off.

    As far as saying Utah players have chosen to test their skills in one of the toughest conferences in the conference. For one, these recruits won't playing in Utah's 2013 schedule. Will their 2014 be tougher?

    Secondly, you dodged the question and resorted to mocking me instead. How can you have a conference be considered soooo strong when the highest PAC 12 team plays such a weak schedule? Hint: maybe the PAC isn't overall as tough as you would think.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 10:23 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    Oh and one more point... unless the DN mods deem that I'm piling on...

    but you brought it up...

    8 PAC12 teams have 2013 schedules ranked tougher than BYU (even in BYU's so-called toughest season ever)... and you ask why some PAC12 teams have weak schedules?

    Are you really asking that question?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 10:13 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    Mr. Riverton Cougar -

    I never said playing "a" PAC12 team was playing at the highest level possible... I did say that that Utah players have chosen to test their skills in on of the strongest conferences in the country...

    Do you really want to dispute that?

    Oh... and first you bring up pre-season rankings to support your point... and then when it doesn't work out so well you say "we really won't know sos until after the season"?

    Is that what happened?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:56 p.m.

    "Oregon SOS?

    maybe a more relevant comparison is the 8 PAC12 teams that have higher sos than BYU"

    Why? Oregon and 3 other schools in the PAC play a weaker schedule than BYU. However, most teams on a PAC schedule are PAC teams. That means that merely being in the PAC does not equate to having a harder schedule.

    "Not sure why you would single out Oregon... unless... could it be... that you were just cherry picking your comparisons to support a lame assertion..."

    Cherry picking? Lame assertion? Like I said above, if the PAC were such a great conference, why do some conference team have such weak strength of schedules when most of their opponents are PAC teams?

    Rather than respond you just accuse me of cherry picking and making "lame assertions" when my assertion is that playing in a PAC 12 team is not necessarily "playing at the highest level possible". Besides, we won't really know the strength of schedule until after the season.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:38 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    Oregon SOS?

    maybe a more relevant comparison is the 8 PAC12 teams that have higher sos than BYU... which in its toughest season ever barely breaks the top 50...

    Not sure why you would single out Oregon... unless... could it be... that you were just cherry picking your comparisons to support a lame assertion...

    naaahhhhhh... you wouldn't cherry pick your stats...just because the facts keep getting in your way.... would you?

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    Riverton Cougar,

    113th. Tied with Utah State. Good find.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:37 p.m.

    "A one-star recruit with no other offers. No big deal."

    Actually, scout rated him 3 stars. And he did have another offer: Utah. Oops, those facts just keep getting in the way. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    "Not everyone wants to play at the highest level possible... Utah players have chosen to test their skills in one of the strongest conferences in the country..."

    Howard, do you want to guess Oregon's strength of schedule for the upcoming season? Being in one of the strongest conferences in the country, you would probably guess it is top 10 or top 20. Or top 30. Or at least top 40. Go take a look at it.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    @Max-was-right

    Four bowl games?

    BYU only has 2 bowl opportunities committed after this year... And that is to a 3rd tier bowl...

    Oh... and BYU has no committed bowl opportunity for the 2014 season.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    @Tom in CA

    Soooo....

    If BYU has such a high national profile... Why have they been past over by every major conference in the country?

  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 7:52 p.m.

    Guess he wanted to play in bowl games his 4 years of college.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 4, 2013 7:50 p.m.

    " ........ If BYU was a nationally recognized and established program ....... "

    Howard - are you a johnny-come-lately? I have some news for you: It is actually utah that is not nationally recognized. Get a grip.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    @Pipes

    Actually Mr. Pipes.... If BYU was a nationally recognized and established program they wouldn't have been passed over by ever major conference in the country.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 7:13 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    Actually... Mr. DH... Utah players have chosen to test their skills in one of the strongest conferences in the country... I have no problem at all if someone chooses a different path...

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 6:25 p.m.

    A one-star recruit with no other offers. No big deal.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 5:21 p.m.

    @howard s

    That's a great point, all of utah's players have decided they don't want to play at the highest level, that is why they picked a losing team at the bottom of its conference.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 4, 2013 5:13 p.m.

    C'mon now, this is great news! After hearing that Utah is now dominating the recruiting battles, it's good to hear there are still a few who still prefer to play for BYU.

    Go Cougs! Good luck to the Utes too!

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 4:49 p.m.

    @ Howard S

    Case in point, the Pac-12. In order to pad their stats, the Pac frequently schedules patsies and lower level opponents to ensure their bowl eligibility. They even invite lower level programs (utes) to join their conference to ensure victories for their marquee programs.
    It's easy to see how an athlete like Kavika would choose a nationally recognized and well established program like BYU over a flash in the pan, basement dweller of the Pac-12.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 4, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Howard S.

    "Not everyone wants to play at the highest level possible... and that's okay... everyone has different priorities..."

    That's obviously true of every Utah recruit; why pick Utah if you could play for USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Florida, Miami or Florida State?

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    Sounds like a nice get for BYU. Welcome Kavika!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 3:52 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    Not everyone wants to play at the highest level possible... and that's okay... everyone has different priorities...

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 10:07 a.m.

    What happened christina? azute? naval?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    Welcome Kavika. Nice to have a Syracuse Titan playing for the Cougs. It's kind of interesting that a kid with a 4.48 40 and a SPARQ score of 123.8, and an MVP at Nike camp isn't ranked by espn or 247, but a 3 star by scout.com. Doesn't really matter, I've watched him plenty in person playing for Syracuse and he's a stud safety but also has quickness and offensive skills as well. Nice get for BYU.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    Welcome Kavika! The best thing I read about you was your desire to serve the Lord and your fellow man. Have a great senior season, remember the purpose and we look forward to seeing you on the field. Go Cougars.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    In before Chris B and other Ute trolls claim that Utah didn't really offer him a scholarship....

  • YBALL Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 12:14 a.m.

    Glad to have ya! Congrats Kavika!

    Go Cougs!!