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Published: Sunday, Aug. 4 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

How dangerous is the pollution from Stericycle compared to the exhaust from an automobile? How concentrated is that pollution? How much would a person have to breathe before being adversely affected?

Those who tell us that the sky is falling at Stericycle should also tell us of the dangers of drinking milk. Too much milk is bad for you. You could drown in milk! Eating too many carrots is bad for you. Drinking too much water is bad for you. There is very little danger than anyone would be harmed by milk, by carrots or by water just as there is very little danger that anyone will ever be harmed by Stericycle.

Most of us would blame the pollutants in North Salt Lake from refineries as a much more real danger than the exhaust from Stericycle.

How many of those complaining about Stericycle are 100% certain that the cars that they drive are not leaking ANY excess toxins into the air? How many of them would give up their driving privileges for life if a random check showed they were polluting more than the government allowed?

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Doctors should be strongly supportive of true science. But Dr. Moench is more committed to being an environmental activist. He is good at quoting various statistics while telling only half of the story.

Moench is not committed to rigorous science, but rather is committed to his personal ideology of anti-fossil-fuel / anti-nuclear / anti-mining, and cherry picks those "facts" that seem to support it.

embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

Any examples of Dr. Moench's statistics that "only tell half the story"...I didn't think so....

Only a really arrogant person would claim that Moench has some personal agenda. His agenda is to improve quality of life and the health of Utah's citizens.

Off the subject...Where on earth but Utah would you have people arguing on the side of polluters? Coming up with my Deseret News Moniker was sooooo easy.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Mike Richards Your rant ignores an important issue, and that is the absence of an air monitoring station in North Salt Lake. Many of us are suspicious of Stericycle for good reason because of our knowledge of what they are burning. But the state is not in a position to give us hard data. Ignorance is bliss? Not when your family's health is at stake.

P.S. the state's air monitoring system is hopelessly underfunded, but I presume, Mike, that you prefer we remain in the dark.

ingslc
salt lake city, UT

The question to ask would be this....How does a person like Dr. Moench personally profit from warning people of the dangers of pollution? COMPARED to how the polluters profit from making sure no one notices or questions their pollution? Follow the money to judge the intentions and motivations here...Dr. Moench profits not at all unless he owns some kind of alternative medical waste company we all don't know about. The polluters make money hand over fist by externalizing their pollution costs onto all of us. Hmmm, whom shall we trust?

ingslc
salt lake city, UT

@PeanutGallery
COuld you please post some links which tell the "other half of the story?" Do you have links to research which indicates NO link between pollution and sickness?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Marxist,

Did you even read what you wrote? You told us that there were no air monitoring stations in North Salt Lake, yet you're "suspicious" about pollution. You told us the State has no hard data.

So, do you think it's a good idea to shut down a business because you are "suspicious"? Is that how things work in America? Wouldn't you expect to see "hard data" before you were convicted of a crime or do you think that would be too "pro-business"?

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Dr. Moench likes to cite two things that happened at the same time, and then claim that naturally one caused the other.

A while back he tried to cause alarm about the "endocrine disruptors" issue, when in fact this is a false health scare that was debunked years earlier. On another occasion he tried to convince us that his mother’s death was caused by an inversion. But such a conclusion has no basis in science whatsoever.

He quotes various studies as if they are scientific, but in reality they are mere projections based on biased guesses. These "studies" conveniently ignore factors that don't fit the environmental activist agenda.

Dr. Moench ignores the true costs and benefits of the “solutions” that he promotes. If we were to follow his prescriptions, we would be left with a worse economy, fewer jobs, less freedom, and fewer resources to accomplish things that have PROVABLE health benefits.

ingslc
salt lake city, UT

PeanutGallery,
You still haven't provided any citations to studies showing that pollution is safe, whereas the Utah Physicians for a Healthy Environment's website cites scores of research studies to back their claims. If you are so confident, then I suppose you will be happy to go purchase a home near Stericycle so that one of those families can move and sleep with peace of mind. AND pay top dollar thereby helping to bolster the economy. Endocrine disruptors not a problem? I'd like to read the science please because I'd love to be convinced that pollution is harmless.

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