Skeptical but looking forward to reading the book.
"....we are a country founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs...."______________________________We hear that a lot these days from
religious conservatives. What Lincoln said at Gettysburg was: "...our
fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and
dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."I
think I'll stick with Lincoln's interpretation of American history.
@ugottabkidnSandy, UTIt is obvious you are reviewing a book
you have not read.9:10 a.m. Aug. 3, 2013=======Agreed.They don't ever read anything for themselves.That's why it's obvious when they regurgitate verbatim what they
hear on Fox News and the radio.
It is obvious you are reviewing a book you have not read.
to GeorgeReally!? p.s. Stewart & Colbert >
Hannity & G Beck
per What in Tucket?An MFA in Creative Writing; Who better to analyze
The Bible then?
I recommend that anyone should read "Zealot". Having said that I think
that Aslan's premise is false and even maybe dishonest. I read the intro.
His premise is that Christ was a zeolot and that his story was modified by the
writers of the gospels (acting independently) to make it look like Christ was a
pacifist because the writers of the gospels were responding in shock to the
destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.I think that Aslan maybe even
dishonest because when he talked about John's baptism he said that it was
probably an initiation into a revolutionary movement and that the belief that
John was baptizing for repentance is "fantastic" ie. a fantasy. But he
never explains why that view is fantastic. He refers to it, then he moves
on.There is a real danger in looking back in history and making
guesses at what was going on with very incomplete facts. Other than the four
gospels there is very little known about Jesus. Aslan dismisses the gospels and
then reads between the lines in the same gospels to come up with his
@What in Tucket?You are correct,He is not expert he
claims to be.And if he is lying about that, that raises all sorts of
questions about his credibility and the credibility of his work of fiction
Dr. Aslan is not a practicing Moslem. In the book's introduction he says
that his family fled Iran after the 1979 revolution and the only Moslems who
prayed in his home was his grandmother who kind of did it quietly. I guess that
the rest of his family kind of stopped practicing, probably because f the bad
examples of the mullahs who took over Iran.
@wallyYou do know Stewart is a comidian, his show is on comidy
central, right? Kind of not the same thing.
Let us make some things clear on this gentleman: he has 4 degrees a
bachelor's in religion, a master's in religion, a Ph.D in sociology,
and a master's in fiction writing. He also teaches protests. He is a
Muslim. I suggest there may be a conflict of interest. To say his credentials
are impeccable may not be correct.
To There You Go AgainWhat About Keith Olbermann, John Stewart,
Why was Roland Kayser's comment deleted? It had at least 10 likes.
"...the completely disrespectful interview by Fox News...".I
thank FOX News everyday for their disrespectful interviews...Great
Just a remind, Jews don't believe Jesus is God either, and is at best
only a prophet.Muslims believe the same, if not HIGHER moral values
than most Jews or Christians.[no drugs, no alcohol, no pornography, no
abortions, no homosexuality, no pre or extra marital sex, praying 5 times daily,
fasting, strong families, a literal resurrection, Jesus is the final Judge,
ect.]Hence their calling America the "Great Satan".[they see America with it's sex, drugs, bikinis, most people living
together, ]So much for the letter writers claim of America's
Aslan's religious affiliation recuses him from writing historical
commentaries which might conflict with your "sacred" beliefs? (By the
way, his wife was raised evangelical Christian and he has a PhD in religious
history.) He has been accused of "bias." Which is more objective, a
believer who tries to reconcile history to fit their preconceived beliefs, or an
outsider who looks at the facts and uses logical conclusions. "Zealot"
should not be that controversial. Jesus would have been viewed as political
rebel by the Romans. According to the New Testament, he was crucified for what
we call today "sedition" or "treason." The crime of those
crucified was posted. For Jesus it read "King of the Jews."
And when a Christian scholar writes a book about Mohammed that doesn't buy
into the Islamic religion, should we not buy his book either? I'm sure that
would promote understanding all around . . .
re: BlueAgreed. Turn about is fair play. How many times have
Christians 'discussed' Mohammed? Dr Aslan can speak
Biblical Greek which is more than 98% of us on this site can do. So, I'm
willing to give him some leeway.
Reza Aslan is a prominent, respected scholar of religion. His religious beliefs
are essentially irrelevant to the content of the book. He doesn't present
the Muslim Jesus either. Just the Jesus found in historical sources.
Including, of course, the New Testament.
Dorothy, if it really was fine then why did you write this letter? Obviously, it
wasn't "just fine."
Hence Dorothy, why this book is peer-reviewed. Because obviously, everyone has a
bias. But the hopes are, peers who have studied history and religion can now
read and study this book and review it. They can critique it. They can show what
he got wrong and what he got right. This isn't some attack on Christianity
but a scholarly study of it. Chances are, you weren't going to read it
anyway (no matter what the author's religion was).So stop
sweating over the small stuff. If anything, the completely disrespectful
interview by Fox News was a bigger deal. How dare you invite a scholar, like the
author of this book, and treat him in such a ridiculous manner! That girl did no
research on him and kept asking the same questions, "how his faith in Islam
has made his writings about Christianity worthless."
... and just look at the Holy Qur'an, there are lots of stories about
Jesus, and even a whole chapter on Mary mother of Jesus, and a chapter on Moses,
all written hundreds of years ago. Islam accepted all the old prophets and
their teachings, didn't just declare they were all wrong.
And you fell for the idiotic vitriol spewed in that interview by foxnews. If we followed your logic (and the logic of the woman who interviewed
her on foxnews) then we wouldn't have much history to study from. History
is constantly written, rewritten, rehashed, and disputed by outsiders. Guess who
has written most Native American history? Yep, you guessed it, white Christians,
NOT Native Americans. When you study the Holocaust or WWII, are the authors
Jewish Europeans or German Nazis, or "outsiders?" Proclaiming that only Christians can write about Christianity and Muslims can
only write about Islam is that same close-minded mentality that foxnews was
trying to sell. If anything, the bias of being "an outsider" helps
eliminate the bias that would otherwise be present in a "reborn" or
otherwise "converted" Christian. It completely ignores how history has
been written and studied.In other words, Foxnews presented a stupid
trap and you foolishly fell for the bait. They merely wanted to stir the pot and
generate hard feelings in their base towards this author, and it worked. More
class warfare on the basis of religion. divide and conquer! So sad.
Islam considers Jesus to be one of their prophets, but don't worship him as
God like the Christians do. And we act shocked that a Muslim author
would write something along those same lines.Stop the presses!
If your faith survives this scrutiny, great. If not, maybe you never really had
it. But keep in mind one of the greatest values we have, be it 'judeo
christian' or not, is the free exchange of ideas.
So he is "a good man and author, and he has good extensive notes and
bibliography in the book," but we should not support this author by buyinh
his book because he is "Muslim" and we are a "Christian
Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep
thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense.- Carl Sagan -
Dr. Aslan is a scholar of religions. His credentials in this field are
impressive. Is a Mormon scholar expected to not write about other
religions?Yes, I know to Christians the story of Jesus is considered
sacred. Does that mean that you refuse to objectively evaluate the history of
Christianity? Apparently it does.And btw, the statement that
"we are a country founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs" is _not_ supported
by the evidence. The people who founded our nation represented a broad array of
beliefs (and non-beliefs) and what is clear from the process they employed in
creating our constitution and the document itself is that they worked hard to
keep religion of all types away from the government.
Revisionist history is fine, go ahead and practice it as fervently as you
practice your "judeo-christian beliefs". This country was founded upon
freedom of religion, which includes much to your dismay, the freedom to not be
religious. Deal with it.
Are you saying: 1-A Muslim can't be educated about Jesus and 2- not to buy
the book because that would put money in a Muslim's pocket?I will
wager this book puts far more real, honest insight into the life of Jesus than
anything sold at Deseret Book.