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Published: Thursday, July 25 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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VST
Bountiful, UT

Here is the bottom line folks: The Jury made a decision, based upon the law and the evidence presented, that Zimmerman is Not Guilty.

All of us spectators, who were not on that Jury, do not get to pick and choose what “evidence” we think is relevant or whether the Florida law is good or bad law.

The Jury has spoken. That is way it works in our justice system.

I agree with the writer – we need to move on.

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

The killing of an unarmed young man by an armed, self-appointed vigilante was certainly a tragedy. What I also find tragic was the unrelenting, non-stop media coverage of the event and the ensuing trial (especially by CNN and MSNBC). It was as though no other news was important enough to override the broadcast of the trial. One can debate whether the media coverage was the cause or the result of the case being thrust into the American consciousness, but whatever racial overtones may have been inherent in the case were grossly overplayed by the media, IMHO.

Rand
Ogden, UT

I have to chuckle at this letter. Such grand nobility, calling for unity and an end to "vitriol", "rhetoric", and the "divided states of America". And embedded within is this little gem: "What a racist comment, by the president of the United States no less." Hypocrisy Mr. Grossman. I don't believe you want unity. I don't believe you want an end to vitriol. I believe you wanted to get a dig in at a president you don't like, regardless of the topic. Glad to see the Deseret News obliged.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

The uniqueness of this trial was not the murder of a teenager nor the killing of a black American by a white American but the stand your ground law that allowed a person to target, follow, and provoke another, then when retaliated against shoot and kill an un-armed person and have it all perfectly legal. To miss that point is the very essence of the problem with the American gun culture.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

How can anyone accuse the President of making racist comments, THEN ask that everyone be more united? And,no, I don't agree that anyone was "forced" to watch the Zimmerman trial, or that HAVING to watch was a "tragedy".

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

35 years ago Obama was living with his white mother in Hawaii attending the best schools in a privileged lifestyle. He has nothing in common with Trayvon Martin.

SEY
Sandy, UT

The president made a monumental mistake when he injected himself into this controversy. When was the last time a president commented on a case before or after a verdict, thereby fueling a disproportionate interest in a very localized situation. Why was he so willing to come down on the side of one person's innocence and another's guilt without knowing the facts or the verdict? The author of this letter is correct.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

I, too, agree we need to move on. But we don't. It seems we also need, every summer, a celebrity type show trial to keep tongues wagging. We need an attractive white girl to disappear somewhere, ideally with at least two occurrences of the letter E in her name. This year we get a bonus to fawn over, a royal baby. So, next time there's an interracial shooting, or kylee disappears in mexico, remember it's not that there isn't thousands of tragedies of a similar nature that occur, it's just that we only care about a very select few.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

I would like to know how many commentors to this petty letter have any experience being a minority in America.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

I'm not a minority (except for my political opinion in this State) nor do I pretend to understand what it is like to be one.

I for one appreciated the President's remarks. They were tempered, appropriate and correct. He was not victimizing himself, nor minorities. He did say that there are a disproportionate amount of blacks arrested, but also that there is a disproportionate amount of crime committed by blacks. He commented that blacks are more likely to hurt blacks, just as whites are more likely to hurt whites, we tend to hurt our peers.

He also commented that the Defendant was given a fair trial, the jury was properly instructed and came back with their verdict, and in America, that is the final word. he didn't incite protest, or a pitch fork mob.

He didn't try to start a national conversation on racism, rather the opposite because sadly, it would be counter productive.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Anytime an unarmed young person is killed it is a tragedy.

This case became hypercharged in the beginning (yes, by the media) because immediately following Trayvon's death, Zimmerman was given his gun back and sent home after 5 hrs of questioning. I as a parent would never accept that and neither would most parents.

I recall a case in UT involving armed "Neighborhood Watchmen," that turned out very different.

The overriding problem is people, because they are armed, "forget" they are only suppose to watch from the safety of their cars or homes.

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

When a case such as this, with Hispanic and Black content, is questioned by Geraldo Rivera for even going to trial you know it has no merit and should not have gone to trial. Now the racists among us are trying to make a federal hate crime out of it.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Just ask yourself if the races of these two people had been reversed. Would a black man who killed a non-black teenager be out on the street now? If you believe that, your brain is lost somewhere in Fantasyland.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Irony Guy. According to the FBI young black men commit 10 times more homicides than all other races combined, so apparently there is another fantasyland that the race hustlers of America are living in.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Some court cases become national news. That's always been the case--remember Lizzie Borden?--and will continue to be. In this case, an unarmed child was killed by an armed adult, without suffering legal consequences. It's not surprising that it became a media event.
The President was raised by a single mom for much of his childhood, and by his grandparents. Of course he relates to Trayvon. I found his comments very moving and quite appropriate, especially as he honored the dignity and restraint shown by Trayvon's family.
What I don't understand is the willingness of some people to turn George Zimmerman into some kind of hero, or to cast Trayvon in the role of thug and villain. That's the dialogue that's entirely unhelpful.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

If you look at the jells across the world it could color the the topic.

Edgar
Samaria, ID

Since on the DN monitor ignored my post from more than three hours ago I'll try a different approach.

Mountanman claims the president lived a life of privilage and has nothing in common with Trayvon Martin. Of course this is nonsense. The president's family lived a middle class lifestyle at best and just because he attended prestigious colleges doesn't mean he didn't have to sacrifice to do so. Studying hard to obtain great grades that lead to scholarships is hard work and the president and his wife had significant student loans.

The president and Travon Martin had this in common - they were both black boys in a white community. That is what made George Zimmerman suspicious and it is the excuse some have used to claim he was responsible for his own death. The president's speech simply asked us all to put ourselves in another man's (boy's) shoes before we judge them. Until you have experienced another person's life, based on their circumstances, you just can't, and shouldn't judge.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"....I think it was a tragedy for America. But not in the way our president does. I view it as a tragedy that all of America had to endure a trial that had nothing to do with the entire country...."
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Your dismay is better directed at the press than at the President. They are the culprits who gave this story in-your-face saturation coverage on television and the Internet. The not so innocent press doesn't merely report events as they would have us believe. They literally invent the news each time they decide which stories get reported and at what decibel level.

As for the President, he is criticized for speaking out, for not speaking out sooner, for what he said, and for what or didn't say. It makes me glad I'm not President. I don't need those kind of headaches.

jsf
Centerville, UT

age 6, Catholic school in Indonesia.
age 8, public school in Indonesia
age 10, moving to Honolulu to live with his Mom's parents. His grandmother was a Vice President for the Bank of Hawaii and was able to afford to send him to the prestigious private college preparatory Punahou Academy, still considered the finest school in Hawaii.
He attended there from 5th grade, and graduated from high school there in 1979.
then attended Occidental College
transferred to Columbia University
From 1988 to 1991 Obama attended Harvard Law School

Hardly middle class.

Common trait with Trayvon 35 years prior, doing illegal drugs. It is in his book.

Makid
Kearns, UT

Here is the problem with the case. Had Trayvon a gun in his possession and used it on Zimmerman, he would have been following the basis of the "Stand your ground" laws.

He was being followed, profiled and chased. He most likely feared for his life (Based on his supposed attack on Zimmerman.

Shouldn't the "Stand your ground" law also affect non gun carrying people as equally?

Chasing someone means you are provoking the situation and any outcome is your fault.

Think about it. If you are following someone relentlessly, even looking for them if you lose them. Then you are attacked because someone fears for their life. You shoot the person attacking you to defend their life and claim self defense and them as the provoker of the attack?

Whenever anyone feels they are backed into a corner, they will strike out. That is what happened here. Trayvon was backed into a corner by a pursuer, he struck out at his pursuer, his pursuer is able to claim self defense?

That is what most people have a problem with. Zimmerman controlled all the cards as he could have stopped at any point.

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