The killing of an unarmed young man by an armed, self-appointed vigilante was
certainly a tragedy. What I also find tragic was the unrelenting, non-stop
media coverage of the event and the ensuing trial (especially by CNN and MSNBC).
It was as though no other news was important enough to override the broadcast
of the trial. One can debate whether the media coverage was the cause or the
result of the case being thrust into the American consciousness, but whatever
racial overtones may have been inherent in the case were grossly overplayed by
the media, IMHO.
I have to chuckle at this letter. Such grand nobility, calling for unity and an
end to "vitriol", "rhetoric", and the "divided states of
America". And embedded within is this little gem: "What a racist
comment, by the president of the United States no less." Hypocrisy Mr.
Grossman. I don't believe you want unity. I don't believe you want an
end to vitriol. I believe you wanted to get a dig in at a president you
don't like, regardless of the topic. Glad to see the Deseret News obliged.
The uniqueness of this trial was not the murder of a teenager nor the killing of
a black American by a white American but the stand your ground law that allowed
a person to target, follow, and provoke another, then when retaliated against
shoot and kill an un-armed person and have it all perfectly legal. To miss that
point is the very essence of the problem with the American gun culture.
How can anyone accuse the President of making racist comments, THEN ask that
everyone be more united? And,no, I don't agree that anyone was
"forced" to watch the Zimmerman trial, or that HAVING to watch was a
35 years ago Obama was living with his white mother in Hawaii attending the best
schools in a privileged lifestyle. He has nothing in common with Trayvon Martin.
The president made a monumental mistake when he injected himself into this
controversy. When was the last time a president commented on a case before or
after a verdict, thereby fueling a disproportionate interest in a very localized
situation. Why was he so willing to come down on the side of one person's
innocence and another's guilt without knowing the facts or the verdict? The
author of this letter is correct.
I, too, agree we need to move on. But we don't. It seems we also need,
every summer, a celebrity type show trial to keep tongues wagging. We need an
attractive white girl to disappear somewhere, ideally with at least two
occurrences of the letter E in her name. This year we get a bonus to fawn over,
a royal baby. So, next time there's an interracial shooting, or kylee
disappears in mexico, remember it's not that there isn't thousands of
tragedies of a similar nature that occur, it's just that we only care about
a very select few.
I would like to know how many commentors to this petty letter have any
experience being a minority in America.
I'm not a minority (except for my political opinion in this State) nor do I
pretend to understand what it is like to be one.I for one
appreciated the President's remarks. They were tempered, appropriate and
correct. He was not victimizing himself, nor minorities. He did say that there
are a disproportionate amount of blacks arrested, but also that there is a
disproportionate amount of crime committed by blacks. He commented that blacks
are more likely to hurt blacks, just as whites are more likely to hurt whites,
we tend to hurt our peers.He also commented that the Defendant was
given a fair trial, the jury was properly instructed and came back with their
verdict, and in America, that is the final word. he didn't incite protest,
or a pitch fork mob. He didn't try to start a national
conversation on racism, rather the opposite because sadly, it would be counter
Anytime an unarmed young person is killed it is a tragedy. This case
became hypercharged in the beginning (yes, by the media) because immediately
following Trayvon's death, Zimmerman was given his gun back and sent home
after 5 hrs of questioning. I as a parent would never accept that and neither
would most parents.I recall a case in UT involving armed
"Neighborhood Watchmen," that turned out very different. The overriding problem is people, because they are armed, "forget"
they are only suppose to watch from the safety of their cars or homes.
When a case such as this, with Hispanic and Black content, is questioned by
Geraldo Rivera for even going to trial you know it has no merit and should not
have gone to trial. Now the racists among us are trying to make a federal hate
crime out of it.
Just ask yourself if the races of these two people had been reversed. Would a
black man who killed a non-black teenager be out on the street now? If you
believe that, your brain is lost somewhere in Fantasyland.
@ Irony Guy. According to the FBI young black men commit 10 times more homicides
than all other races combined, so apparently there is another fantasyland that
the race hustlers of America are living in.
Some court cases become national news. That's always been the
case--remember Lizzie Borden?--and will continue to be. In this case, an
unarmed child was killed by an armed adult, without suffering legal
consequences. It's not surprising that it became a media event. The
President was raised by a single mom for much of his childhood, and by his
grandparents. Of course he relates to Trayvon. I found his comments very moving
and quite appropriate, especially as he honored the dignity and restraint shown
by Trayvon's family. What I don't understand is the willingness
of some people to turn George Zimmerman into some kind of hero, or to cast
Trayvon in the role of thug and villain. That's the dialogue that's
If you look at the jells across the world it could color the the topic.
Since on the DN monitor ignored my post from more than three hours ago I'll
try a different approach.Mountanman claims the president lived a
life of privilage and has nothing in common with Trayvon Martin. Of course this
is nonsense. The president's family lived a middle class lifestyle at best
and just because he attended prestigious colleges doesn't mean he
didn't have to sacrifice to do so. Studying hard to obtain great grades
that lead to scholarships is hard work and the president and his wife had
significant student loans.The president and Travon Martin had this
in common - they were both black boys in a white community. That is what made
George Zimmerman suspicious and it is the excuse some have used to claim he was
responsible for his own death. The president's speech simply asked us all
to put ourselves in another man's (boy's) shoes before we judge them.
Until you have experienced another person's life, based on their
circumstances, you just can't, and shouldn't judge.
"....I think it was a tragedy for America. But not in the way our president
does. I view it as a tragedy that all of America had to endure a trial that had
nothing to do with the entire country...."______________________________Your dismay is better directed at
the press than at the President. They are the culprits who gave this story
in-your-face saturation coverage on television and the Internet. The not so
innocent press doesn't merely report events as they would have us believe.
They literally invent the news each time they decide which stories get reported
and at what decibel level.As for the President, he is criticized for
speaking out, for not speaking out sooner, for what he said, and for what or
didn't say. It makes me glad I'm not President. I don't need
those kind of headaches.
age 6, Catholic school in Indonesia. age 8, public school in
Indonesiaage 10, moving to Honolulu to live with his Mom's parents.
His grandmother was a Vice President for the Bank of Hawaii and was able to
afford to send him to the prestigious private college preparatory Punahou
Academy, still considered the finest school in Hawaii. He attended there
from 5th grade, and graduated from high school there in 1979. then
attended Occidental College transferred to Columbia UniversityFrom
1988 to 1991 Obama attended Harvard Law SchoolHardly middle
class.Common trait with Trayvon 35 years prior, doing illegal
drugs. It is in his book.
Here is the problem with the case. Had Trayvon a gun in his possession and used
it on Zimmerman, he would have been following the basis of the "Stand your
ground" laws.He was being followed, profiled and chased. He
most likely feared for his life (Based on his supposed attack on Zimmerman.Shouldn't the "Stand your ground" law also affect non gun
carrying people as equally?Chasing someone means you are provoking
the situation and any outcome is your fault.Think about it. If you
are following someone relentlessly, even looking for them if you lose them.
Then you are attacked because someone fears for their life. You shoot the
person attacking you to defend their life and claim self defense and them as the
provoker of the attack?Whenever anyone feels they are backed into a
corner, they will strike out. That is what happened here. Trayvon was backed
into a corner by a pursuer, he struck out at his pursuer, his pursuer is able to
claim self defense?That is what most people have a problem with.
Zimmerman controlled all the cards as he could have stopped at any point.
Yes, The previous black American President said it all. Right?President
Obama should keep his thoughts to himself.
@no fit in SG"President Obama should keep his thoughts to
himself."Yeah, how dare a black guy talk about his personal
experiences as a black man... seriously, do you even realize what you come
@pragmatistferlife "The uniqueness of this trial was...the stand your ground
law...."Stand Your Ground was never invoked in this trial.
Zimmerman's claim was straightforward self-defense. According to him, he
was pinned to the earth with no opportunity for retreat. In that situation,
Stand Your Ground doesn't come into play.
@MakidYou think it was justified for Trayvon to attack someone who
was merely keeping an eye on him? Really?And what evidence do you
have that he was "backed into a corner?" There was no such evidence
presented in court.
When a case such as this, with Hispanic and Black content, is questioned by
Geraldo Rivera for even going to trial you know it has no merit and should not
have gone to trial. Now the racists among us are trying to make a federal hate
crime out of it.=============================Full
disclosure, I think Zimmerman probably should have been found guilty of at least
manslaughter.That being said, I think it would be a very travesty of
justice if the Federal Government charges him with civil rights violations.
That would smack of double jeopardy. The government had their chance to present
their case, and was found to be wanting. That should be that.Most
people I have talked to that agree he should not have gotten off agree that he
should be facing further prosecution,
BO and his cabal don’t care about all the black on black murders that
occurred because they cannot politicize them. Sad.Georgeofthejungle,“jells”? Is that what happens when you
mix up Jello, then put it in the fridge, it jells?No fit in St.
George, atl134,Playing the race card, again? So old. Evidence of a weak
argument when that is all you can resort to.
atl134.....Thought you might see the sarcasm.Guess you missed
that?I am in agreement with you!
@pragmatistferlife:"The uniqueness of this trial was not the murder of
a teenager nor the killing of a black American by a white American but the stand
your ground law..."You got that right. If there were no stand
your ground law, Martin would have been obliged to beat it home rather than
stand his ground and beat Zim's face to a pulp.@SEY:"The president made a monumental mistake when he injected himself into
this controversy."Which makes him look alot like a racist.
'If I had a son he would look alot like Trayvon' and 'that could
have been me 35 years ago.'@Darrel:"He did say that
there are a disproportionate amount of blacks arrested, but also that there is a
disproportionate amount of crime committed by blacks."But did he
say why? No, So I guess I'll have to opine... The reason is the breakdown
and failure of the Black family. Seventy three percent of black babies are born
out of wedlock. There's the problem in a nutshell. How can black kids
learn to be good, law-abiding citizens with absent fathers to provide
A finding of "not guilty" does not mean that a defendant did not do the
crime. It only means that the state is unable to prove the defendant's
guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt". The question for the nation -- and it
is a national issue not just a Florida matter -- is whether or not we need to
change our laws to make Zimmerman like interventions less likely and less
deadly. The Zimmerman jury complied with the law in their findings, but did
they really do justice? An act may be circumstantially lawful but also unjust.
Slavery was once legal, but it was never just.
To "Edgar" he didn't just attend the expensive universities, he
also went to a PRIVATE highschool. If you bothered to look, you would see that
he went to Punahou School in Hawaii. According to its website it is a private,
co-educational, college preparatory school. How many middleclass kids do you
know that can afford a private school?To "Curmudgeon" how
about a thug kid with a racist chip on his sholder attacking a neighborhood
watch member, that is what this case ended up showing. Trayvon was a thug, and
just picked the wrong guy to attack.To "Makid" Trayvon
didn't fear for his life. People that fear for thier lives typically
don't throw the first punch.
@Truthseeker:"The overriding problem is people, because they are
armed, 'forget' they are only suppose to watch from the safety of
their cars..."Let's say 10 people was observed by Zim that
night, heading home... Was Zim supposed to stay in his vehicle and report them
all to the police? The police would stop coming after about the third call.@Irony Guy:"... ask yourself if the races of these two people
had been reversed. Would a black man who killed a non-black teenager be out on
the street now?"Ask yourself, if the jury were all black would
Zim be on the streets now?@Makid:"Here is the problem...
Had Trayvon a gun in his possession and used it on Zimmerman, he would have been
following the basis of the 'Stand your ground' laws."Martin followed the rules with his fists. You don't need a gun for
'stand your ground.'"He was being followed, profiled
and chased."He was being observed and reported to the police."Zimmerman controlled all the cards as he could have stopped at any
point."Martin controlled his cards to run home and inform his
WRZ,"But did he say why? No, So I guess I'll have to
opine..."Wait! Don't do that! Opining without facts, you
might end up writing something that "makes you look a lot like a
racist"... Oops. Too late, you went ahead an opined anyway. Good news,
though. Now you can explain how your statement about the "Black family"
wasn't racist while the President's very reasoned statements on
first-hand experiences are.
re:JsfYes, Obama was honest enough to admit he used drugs. Unlike
other presidential candidates he remembers and admits the things he did wrong
growing up. Obama was fortunate to have a grandmother and mother
that put his education at the top of their priority list. No doubt these two
women had a huge impact on his life. His grandmother, a high school grad,
started at the bank as a secretary and worked her way up the ladder. Still, that
did not shield Obama from being a minority wherever he lived. He was teased
relentlessly while living in Indonesia. When he returned from Indonesia he
lived with him grandparents in a two bedroom apt. and attended the private
school paid for, in part, by a scholarship. I think because Obama
had a unique ethniciy, upbringing, and post-graduate experiences he's seen
both sides of the race issue. It must be extremely disappointing to him that he
hasn't been able to be the bridge to the divide. I think the
most surprising thing to me is the comments by conservatives--including
unabashed birthers--on DN.
Well said, Israel.
lost in DC,Given the comments you are complaining about, your definition
of playing the race card is set rather low. But you willingly played the
Over-reactive Conservative Victim card. Not sure which I am more tired of. Redshirt,"a thug kid with a racist chip on his sholder
attacking a neighborhood watch member, that is what this case ended up
showing"Nope. Wrong. The trial showed that there wasn't
proof beyond reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was guilty of murder and
manslaughter. It did NOT show beyond a reasonable doubt that Martin attacked
Zimmerman or was a racist thug. It's an important distinction to make. The
burden of proof is always on the prosecution to prove guilt rather than the
defense to prove innocence.
@atl134:"Yeah, how dare a black guy talk about his personal
experiences as a black man..."If you want to fan racist fires,
then you need to talk about race, pointing out the disparities... but, of
course, don't mention the causes of the disparities. And no, it ain't
about slavery. It's because of broken black families... seventy three
percent of black babies are born out of wedlock... no fathers to discipline
their kids and teach then acceptable behavior and respect for themselves,
others, and the law.@Mike in Cedar City:"A finding of
'not guilty' does not mean that a defendant did not do the
crime."Oh, but it does. Before a trial, a defendant is
'innocent until proven guilty.' If the defendant is found to not be
guilty by a jury, 'innocent' remains intact."The
question for the nation... is whether or not we need to change our laws to make
Zimmerman like interventions less likely and less deadly."It's not an issue for the law. It's an issue for the families...
and most black families are broken, so nothing is ever taught... except maybe in
W@Rand"Wait! Don't do that! Opining without facts, you might end
up writing something that 'makes you look a lot like a
racist.'"The prez talked about issues and problems of his
race... I talked about the underlying cause of those issues and problems and how
he and his fellow blacks could solve them. That ain't racism on my part.
re:wrz"Let's say 10 people was observed by Zim that night,
heading home... Was Zim supposed to stay in his vehicle and report them all to
the police?"Yes.Donald O'Brien, president of the
Retreat at Twin Lakes homeowner's association said, "Since day
one with the neighborhood watch, they said at that meeting and every meeting we
had after that, 'Do not get close to anyone, stay at a safe distance, call
911 and let the police handle it."Wendy Dorival the volunteer
coordinator with the Sanford Police for Neighborhood Watch program Zimmerman
attended, said volunteers shouldn't follow suspicious people. She
emphasized that citizens shouldn't engage anyone suspicious, but rather,
contact police. A resident at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, where
Martin was fatally shot, said the homeowner’s association there
permanently suspended their neighborhood watch program immediately after the
shooting in February 2012. The neighborhood now has a community enforcement
agreement with the Sanford Police Department.
To "Rand" go back and read "Curmudgeon's" original comment.
Why go after me, why do you let the lies from people on the left go
unchecked?Why go after the racial motives that the press has lied to
us about? How do you know that what I wrote is not true? Based on the evidence
and investigations that have gone on, Zimmerman was shown to not be a racist.
The FBI investigated Zimmerman and found nothing. However Zimmerman's
defense team was able to get all sorts of racist text messages from
Trayvon's phone. Since Trayvon was shown to be a racist and had a history
of fighting and was known to use drugs, do you really think that it was that
difficult to prove the Zimmerman was defending himself?
"....Martin controlled his cards to run home and inform his dad."______________________________That might have defused the
situation and been the prudent course to take against someone who believes he
has a legal right to be a bully. At least Trayvon would have lived through that
night - maybe.
The mere fact that the right wing is still talking about obama's birth
certificate well into his 2nd term tells me that they haven't learned
anything from the past 2 embarrassing presidential elections. So maybe after
they lose in 2016 they'll finally get a clue? Maybe?
@no fit in SG"Thought you might see the sarcasm.Guess you missed
that?"Completely missed that one. @lost in DC"BO and his cabal don’t care about all the black on black murders
that occurred because they cannot politicize them."Michelle
Obama went to the funeral of Hadiya Pendleton who was murdered in Chicago in one
of those instances of violence you say is never noticed by Obama or the media
(that one, and urban violence in general, is repeatedly mentioned by liberal
hosts like Melissa Harris-Perry).
Rand,your threshold for the race card must be pretty high. Do you have to
go to Mars to reach it, or just the moon?MaverickYOU are the
only one talking about BO's birth certificate. Is 43% a majority yet?
African-Americans are incapable of being racists, because to be a racist you
have power and money. The whites have all the power and money in the
USA, and around the world, so they are the ones that are racists, keeping it all
for themselves.Martin is guilty of a racist killing because he is
white and he killed a black man. It is that simple. The president just wanted to
help people understand this. For those who have been injured in
demonstrations because they are white, it is because Blacks are angry, not
because they are racists. It is the whites fault for being so mean.
Sorry Nate you are wrong. Zimmerman didn't invoke stand your ground in his
pre trial but the instructions from the judge to the jury contained this"If
George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any
place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to
stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he
reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great
bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible
felony."Even if the defense didn't argue it the judge did
and gave the jury instructions to consider stand your ground.
jsf and RedshirtMIT - You guys don't get it. It doesn't matter that
he went to prestigious schools or what is income level is - he's a black
man in America. And that makes a difference in how many or most people approach
him or consider him when they're in certain situations. You can deny it
all you want but if you are really honest with yourself you will admit that it
makes a difference and you never just say "Hey, there's a guy over
there." You say, "Hey, there's a black guy over there." Ask
yourself this question - When you're telling a story and one of the
characters is black, do you leave that detail out of the story? Just be honest
I was born in Mississippi and lived most of my young-adulthood (1960's) in
the East Texas-Louisiana area. I'm not a minority, but have witnessed the
brutal laws and treatment of the black people. They lived for over 100 years as
sub-citizens and treated like animals.President Obama described the
b;ack person's perspective of life in America. He is exactly correct.Most people in the West cannot understand this. They never will,
because they have not witnessed it. But predjudicial hatred of blacks is still
alive and well in the South.This young man was essentially hunted,
found, threatened, put up a fight and then killed. John Grisham's book
"A Time To Kill" would be an excellent read for westerners.I
hope the DOJ's investigation reveals the problems with Stand Your Ground
laws and charges Zimmerman appropriately with violating the Civil Rights of this
innocent young man.
@Liberal Today"African-Americans are incapable of being racists,
because to be a racist you have power and money. "Minorities can
definitely be racist as individuals. What you're talking about with power
and money is "institutional racism" that exists within a system and that
typically flows in a majority->minority direction.
@pramatistferlifeThe law requires that those words be included in
jury instruction whenever self-defense is claimed. However, the fact remains
that Stand Your Ground was never invoked by the defense. They didn't need
to. The facts of the case didn't warrant it. Zimmerman's supposed duty
to retreat wasn't in question. He said he was attacked by surprise and
pinned to the ground. There was no opportunity for retreat.You
claimed earlier that Stand Your Ground is what makes this case unique, and
it's just not so.
Stand your ground is a bad law and a worse mentality. Either Martin or Zimmerman
might have ended the standoff by walking away. Neither of them did. The standard
in play was stand your ground when it should have been use your head.
Here, i will summarize this letter for potential readers:GOP goodObama bad
@PatriotVetYou hit the nail on the head. The south is very different than
here in Utah when it comes to race relations. First, because to be racist
against black people there would have to be a black population that lives here.
Second, while slavery was technically legal at one point in Utah it wasn't
a widespread practice, so there really isn't the same culture of it here. I
lived in Georgia from age 14-19 and let me tell you, in the back woods of that
state racism was alive and well in the late 90's early 2000's.
Lost in DC,I just looked over their comments again, and I'm
sorry, I can't see the race card being played there. I saw a sarcastic
comment about conservative reaction to Obama's speech and a defensive
retort, but that's it. I didn't see them blaming an outcome on race,
making excuses because of race, calling someone racist in order to deflect from
the argument at hand. I think you believe that any mention of race by a liberal
is "the race card".Maybe if I had your goggles through which
to view the world, the race card would stand out plain as day. I'd also
then be able to see the War on Christmas, the War on Religion, the evils of
climate change science, the liberal conspiracy of higher education, and the
Little Bird of Perpetual Gloom that whispers in your ear that all the
world's ills are the fault of liberals. Kind of glad I don't, though.
Nate I still think your wrong because prior to the passage of the stand your
ground law the instructions to the jury would have been, "cannot justify his
use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he
could have avoided the need to use that force.". I know he was eventually
supposedly pinned to the ground but previous to that he had stalked and
confronted Trevon for no reason. In fact he was told to not follow him. Self
defense only makes sense with stand your ground. I'm pretty sure also that
the first juror who spoke out and supported the decision, referred to stand your
ground as justification.
@pragmatistferlifeYou say that Zimmerman "confronted
Trevon," but this was never established as fact in the courtroom. Juror B37
said they found Zimmerman's account to be most consistent with the
evidence. The dispatcher told him not to follow Trayvon, but also asked if he
knew where Trayvon went. By Zimmerman's account, he left his truck to find
an address, and Trayvon attacked him.Juror B37 said that the jury
read and re-read all the related laws: second-degree murder, manslaughter,
self-defense (which included Stand Your Ground). They considered all of it. But
what it came down to was, "He had a right to defend himself. If he felt
threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to
have bodily harm, he had a right."That's straightforward
self-defense. Even under the old law, with the old jury instructions, the
conclusion would have been the same. According to the account the jury found
most credible, he was pinned to the ground before he began to fear for his life.
He was no longer able to retreat. Stand Your Ground wasn't in question.
First off my heart goes out to the family in this horrible tragedy. The thing
that bugs me from go is, The watch guy called it in to police, They told him ok
and not to pursue him (that's his job!!)But he takes it upon himself to
follow this young man anyway. How long did he proceed to follow him? If I'm
a young man doing nothing wrong (taking into account that Zimmerman told to get
back in his car). I would be getting a little freaked out by this point and
nervous and a little angry for being followed by someone I don't even know.
So he approaches a man presuming he is unarmed because the weapon is concealed
and most likely ask why you following me what exchanges from there is a mystery.
In the heat of battle most things get blurred. I left race entirely out of it. I
believe Zimmerman never would have got out of his car if he had no weapon. Fight
to get the gun law changed that's the need. The laws failed this young man
not a Hispanic/white person.
First off my heart goes out to the family in this horrible tragedy. The thing
that bugs me from go is, The neighborhood watch guy called it in to police, They
told him ok and not to pursue him (that's his job!!) So his job should have
been done right there. But he takes it upon himself to follow this young man
anyway. How long did he proceed to follow him? If I'm a young man doing
nothing wrong (taking into account that Zimmerman told to get back in his car).
I would be nervous and a little angry for being followed by someone I
don't even know. So he approaches a man presuming he is unarmed because the
weapon is concealed and most likely ask why you following me what exchanges from
there is a mystery. In the heat of battle most things get blurred. I left race
entirely out of it. I believe Zimmerman never would have got out of his car if
he had no weapon. Fight to get the gun law changed that's the need. The
laws failed this young man not a Hispanic/white person.
The right wing is holding up Zimmerman as a folk hero when I can't imagine
anyone thinking any better of him than a man who should have stayed in his car.
The fact IS that Trevon hadn't done what Zimmerman suspected
him of doing.
totom,"....I believe Zimmerman never would have got out of his
car if he had no weapon...."______________________________Carrying a gun gives a false sense of security that might embolden one to take
ill-advised risks he might otherwise choose not to take. The accessibility of
firearms in America is a factor that’s been barely mentioned in the
Zimmerman case. Reluctance of gun advocates to consider its role in this tragedy
is proportionate to the disproportionate emphasis on the conduct of the unarmed
Trayvon Martin that night.
Craig Clark:Carrying a gun gives a false sense of security that
might embolden one to take ill-advised risks he might otherwise choose not to
takeI would take this a step further and say having a gun creates
confrontation. There are those who have a false sense of security with a
gun. Normal accepted behavior in our society is unless there is immediate and
imminent danger. You do not get involved in a conflict. You call the police;
Zimmerman was brave because he had a gun. He would not have gotten out of the
car without one; he would have called the police, and stayed in his car.I
believe some people want an opportunity to use their gun, so they go out looking
for conflict. In states like Florida, they give these vigilantes a get out of
jail free card; with the stand your ground laws.
Caucasians should be worried that Zimmerman is being persecuted by the press,
the feds, and activists, all because he looks Caucasian. Latinos
should be worried because the above mentioned guy is actually Latino, so they
are being targeted too.The accusers should be worried because when
racism is condoned, it perpetuates, and the wind could blow the other direction,
"The right wing is holding up Zimmerman as a folk hero..."Zimmerman:Mentor for troubled youthHelps accident victimsLooks out for his neighborsAcquitted of criminal activityThe
left win is holding up Martin as a folk hero...Martin:Pot smokersuspended from school (guilty of school rule violation)racist (called Zimmerman a "... cracker")walking near houses in
private property complex (trespasser)punched out a middle aged dude he
didn't even know (assault)The right is behind the right guy, as
usual.And alas, Martin's death was a tragedy. But it
doesn't make him a hero. It makes him a guy who shouldn't have pounded
My post should have said, The accusers should be worried because
when racism is condoned, it perpetuates, and the wind could blow the other
direction, making THEM downwind.@ Lib2dayThe POTUS, the
most powerful man in the world, is a self proclaimed African-American.
African-Americans have a lot of power, (in the press, the president, the
attorney general, many congressmen, the well funded organizations like the
NAACP, the Al Sharptons of the world) and in this case, they are using that
money and power to persecute George Zimmerman, because of his color, ie racism.
Call me a sheltered UT person if you want, but I know racism when I see it. As a nation, we have made great progress on the challenge of racism, but
we are stuck on a plateau. The perpetuation of hate and racist persecution of
Zimmerman is a step backwards. The fact that is comes from a group that has
previously been the victim of racism, does not excuse it or make it okay. It is
still wrong. In fact it is likely that Martin's racist attitudes
contributed to his death.
He is killing race relations in this country. That's what race baiters do.
The establishment wants another civil/race war in this country and they see this
trial as another way to try and provoke one.
If Zimmerman was a liberal/victim he would be labelled as latino, not white. If Obama was a conservative, he would be labelled as white and not
black. It's astonishing how race baiters can control reality by
labelling bi-racial people according to their political agenda.
the real tragedy here beyond the fact that a life was lost is the fact that once
again this president saw fit to inject race and politics into the matter thus
dividing Americans once again. Yes the 'great divider' Obama continues
to predictably play the race card at every opportunity instead of trying to be
the president of ALL Americans including George Zimmerman and his family. Obama
has NEVER been the president of all Americans and never will. A real US
president is not so petty and politically once sided but again we are dealing
with a demagogue here who plays to his base of voters instead of trying to heal
the entire nation. Sickening.