worf, you never fail to get to the point. In as few words a possible too.Maybe I'm mistaken, but didn't President Obama "save"
General Motors? And, if I'm not mistaken, isn't General Motors
located in Detroit Michigan? So what happened? Doesn't seem to be much
flag waving, like there was before the election, about having bailed out GM.
Remember the mantra? GM is alive and Osama is dead. Now it would seem, that
even GM success will not be enough, such as it is. I would almost feel sorry
for Obama, if he wasn't so arrogant as to always find blame for his lack of
success. I truly think the man has a narcissistic personality. I'm no
shrink, but I've been around people like that, and one thing is common
about their character. They are never wrong and they never make mistakes. Not
a good character type for the White House. Come to think of it there was a book
written some time ago about Presidential personality types. Maybe worth a look.
The people of Detroit voted in corrupt leaders.There's your
reason for the "Detroit collapse". Period!
I have worked as a software engineer for almost 30 years, mostly doing
automation systems. I've done several projects for the big three auto
makers and in most cases the unions were directly responsible for adding to the
cost of the projects, mostly by delaying tactics but, in a few cases, by actual
sabotage.To be fair, in most cases, most of the actual guys I worked
with were very competent and even hard working. But, because of the job padding
union contracts there were often 2-3 guys assigned for duties that barely
required one. In once case, one of the the electricians assigned to the project
would regularly to a part of the factory where he could hide (in plants as large
as these, there are plenty of secluded cubby-holes) and nap for a couple hours
to be ready for a moon-lighting job.I have always been pretty
sympathetic to the whole idea of collective bargaining, but my experience there
convinced me that there is corruption in unions that is every bit as corrosive
and destructive as any manipulative or exploitative managerial trait. And, a
lot of that is the cause of Detroit's demise.
Unless we change political leaders, this whole country will resemble Detroit.We don't need more speeches, but results.
@My2Actually, NAFTA was a byproduct of the UAW problems in Detroit. GM
and others learned that you cannot compete with Toyota when you pay a guy $60 an
hour to put the doors on glove boxes.So...you hire guys in Mexico who are
happy to work for $50 a week in a plant where they serve you breakfast and
lunch, have a doctor on staff and take you home in a company bus.Detroit
unions were killing competition in Detroit long before NAFTA.
It sounds good and reasonable assumption to blame the bankruptcy on party
politics and organized labor, but its all a lie.The real cause and
reason for the downfall of our economy and this country going into bankruptcy is
the NAFTA treaty everyone has forgotten about and government and business is
keeping it out of the picture. The decline of the economy began in
less than a year after its passing. The big auto makers had already built their
plants and relocated their factories and to 3rd world countries in anticipation
of the NAFTA treaty being approved by congressional vote they bought and paid
for with campaign funds. It backfired, not realizing they also killed the
consumer market that bought their products that benefited housing, jobs, small
business.Before the NAFTA treaty american business and corporations
by federal law could not move out of this country and set up shop with slave
labor and cheap labor. The NAFTA treaty did and still does allow American
companies to desert this country for cheap and slave labor.Revoke
NAFTA, freeze imports, close borders, creates prosperity, wealth, and economy.
It's hard to believe that 'racism' and 'segregation'
was the problem that spelled doom for Detroit. But that's clearly the
media's scapegoat of today, regardless of the issue. Apparently living
beyond ones means, just tacking on the cost of union demands to the price of
every vehicle had nothing to do with strangling the goose that laid the golden
egg.The union in Detroit owns the most expensive looking building in
the city.Getting a job where all you do is put a piece of glass into
a door every 30 seconds or screw on a hood latch required no education and
isn't worth all the thousands of dollars of pay and benefits the union
demanded. On a visit to the Ford Rouge Plant (F-150 pick-up truck assembly
plant) the tour focused on "2 acres of wetlands," "green
roofing" (grass on the roof), a mere dozen fruit trees and other liberal
policies. My questions about manufacturing and shipping new vehicles went
unanswered, but there was a lot about "protecting the environment."No wonder the place is under water.
Sad but true. Though those involved will never see it that way.
Baloney.Detroit is the bankrupt, stinking cesspool that it is
strictly because it has been run by corrupt liberal Democrats, implementing
their socialist policies, and encouraging a dependency lifestyle.No
government can survive if it spends more than it takes in, excessively taxes the
"makers" while coddling the "takers" and endlessly regulates and
tax employers so that they cease employing people, and lavish unsustainable
promises to public employee unions.Not Detroit, and certainly not
even the federal government.