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Published: Saturday, July 20 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

Ironic that anyone from Utah, the bankruptcy center of the nation, would criticize Detroit for trying to solve its financial problems through bankruptcy.

By the way, the word is "sown," (as in planting seed), not "sewn" (as in stitching a garment).

Shaun
Sandy, UT

Detroit has gone down hill because of politicians undermining our manufacturing sector and the high paying jobs that came them. More specifically it appears the republicans will not stop the attack on the middle class until we all work for Walmart wages.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

That's right. When American industry abandons an area and ships the jobs overseas it's the fault of the people who live there. Also, George Romney would be considered a raging liberal RINO by today's tea party folks.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The plight of Detroit is nothing new or unusual or not typical of what is happing all across America. The special interest groups in control of our government(s) have systematically robbed the taxpayer for public works beyond the need and affordability of the taxpayer. This would include the over building and under usage of public transportation systems, public buildings, stadiums, theatres, zoo’s and a very long list of business scams.

Then when the money runs out, they blame the workers and their unions.

Edgar
Samaria, ID

This letter would be relevant if there was any evidence, at all, that Mitt Romney was anything like his father when it comes to political understanding of our nations problems. George Romney would be drummed out of the Republican Party today and his compassionate service at Housing and Urban Development is in direct opposition to Republican platform positions. The downfall of the auto industry is the main cause of Detroit\'s downfall but it's not the only one. The mismanagement of General Motors and their lack of creativity in meeting the demands of the public is what caused problems for GM. It has NOTHING to do with how the voted in the last election.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

I'm afraid the connection you're trying to make is really spurious.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Detroit saw Romney for what he is. That is why they did not vote for him.
Want to see out of control poverty? Let Reaganomics continue to destroy the 90% of the country. Let the Koch brothers get away with whatever they want. That is when you'll see the US follow Detroit's path.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Let Obama tell us how he saved Detroit by seizing two car companies. Let him tell us how he plundered the assets of police and teacher union pension funds to pay off the union workers. Let him tell us how, because of him, Detroit would not fail.

Greedy unions caused the problem. They insisted that people be paid more than they were worth. They insisted on pensions that were not funded. They insisted that the quality didn't matter. Japan showed them. Korea showed them. Germany showed them.

Those who listened to those lies now live in a ghost town. Where's Obama now? Why isn't he taking credit for Detroit's bankruptcy? He showed us that private assets mean nothing to him. Why doesn't he vacation in Detroit? At least that way, Detroit would get the $100,000 an hour that it costs when he vacations like a king and watches the paupers suffer.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Ernest,
You have confirmed Detroit's "good judgment" in rejecting Romney. They have used that same good judgment to run themselves into bankruptcy. Margaret Thatcher said it, "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Detroit found this out and although the far left still in denial, it will come to them as it has come to Greece, Spain, Italy and some US cities.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

Per Reid..."I couldn't help but think of how Detroit and Michigan had recently voted against George Romney's son, Mitt,..."

Did you forgot (conveniently??) about Mitt's lack of empathy and loyalty towards his "hometown" Though, Ernest has summed it up well.

To Mike R

And how are those 2 car companies doing now?

Shaun
Sandy, UT

@mike richards. Greedy unions? That is laughable. What about greedy executives and Wall Street?

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

I'm not sure I understand the political partisanship and triumphalism by some on this news. George Romney was governor of the state when the US auto industry was the symbol of American economic power. That hasn't been true in decades, and Detroit's fortunes are inextricably linked to its decline. Detroit's failure is its inability to diversify and remake its economy like Pittsburgh did after the collapse of the steel industry.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Uh... you wanted the President (Romney) to get involved in city level gov't? That seems very non-small gov't. Actually, considering the emergency manager law passed by the Republicans at the state level, that would be par for the course in Michigan.

ray vaughn
Ogden, UT

Blaming the econimic problems of Detroit on failure to vote for Mitt Romney is ridicolous. You conveniently forget to mention the other Republicans and Democrats who served as Governor of Michigan since George W. Romney. You also fail to mention the other Republican and Democratic Presidents since George W. Romney served as Michigan Governor.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Wow.

Reid, your patriotism is just oozing from your letter.

Nothing shouts, "I Love America" more than cheering the demise of one of the greatest cities this country has ever seen. Gone, the picture of American prosperity and happiness. Destroyed, the industry that powered America throughout the 20th century.

It's so sad to me how folks like this letter writer would rather have their political party score points than to actually help America.

Henderson
Orem, UT

I must be a really pathetic History major because... I don't get this letter...

Soooooo Detroit was a humming industrial center UP UNTIL this past election? What happened to over half of its population? Remember now, in the 50s it was a huge city with 2 million residents. All of this happened because of not voting for Mitt?

Because Detroit didn't vote for Mitt Romney they are all being punished? Huh? What about those red states who are stuck on welfare and food stamps? Why aren't they being rewarded for voting for Romney?

What does Mitt Romney have to do with anything? He lost the election. It's over! I voted for him but he lost. I don't understand why we keep rehashing this. Lets move on!

Furthermore, what was Mitt going to do to save a city? I don't get it... Slash pensions? Now where in the Constitution does it give the President the right to intervene like that? Was he going to pass a stimulus package? For one city? Why would the GOP support that? Was he going to lower/raise taxes for Detroit? Again, how?

Please help this History major understand this letter.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

For greater insight into the Detroit failure, see the internet.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

GM is underwater - still.

Forbes reported on August 15, 2012: "President Obama is proud of his bailout of General Motors. That’s good, because, if he wins a second term, he is probably going to have to bail GM out again. The company is once again losing market share, and it seems unable to develop products that are truly competitive in the U.S. market.

Right now, the federal government owns 500,000,000 shares of GM, or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/share for these to break even on the bailout, but the stock closed at only $20.21/share on Tuesday."

GM stock is currently running at $36.89. Obama can't sell GM without taking a huge loss. It's not his money, it's our money. He didn't pay the police and teacher unions who invested in GM stock when he seized it to pay the auto unions. He doesn't care who gets hurt financially. He didn't care about the police unions and the teacher unions who were sold out.

Apparently, many posters don't care about those people, those workers who were cheated out of their pensions.

FreedomFighter41
Orem, UT

Thanks Ultra Bob, great idea!

So I used the Internet and gained greater insight into this letter writer. In 1988, Reid Swenson, wrote into this very paper making the case that Reagan would be the perfect Vice President to Bush I. He states, although the Constitution limits the terms a President can serve (as President) to 2 terms it does not limit the number of times he can serve as VP. In other words, he's making the case for a Monarchy under the guise of "Democracy."

Knowing this about this author, we should most definitely take his letter today with a "grain of salt."

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Thanks for the reminder that Michigan, the state where Mitt Romney grew up, voted against him. You may also recall that the state where Mitt served in public office, Massachusetts, also voted against him. In other words, the two states best acquainted with Mitt Romney voted overwhelmingly for Obama. Perhaps there's a message there.

For what it's worth, I liked George Romney and very much appreciated his honest statement on Vietnam.

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