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Published: Wednesday, July 17 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Bob Dobbs
Salt Lake City USA, UT

Zimmerman is a very big guy? I really don't think 5'7" and 170-180 lbs is a "very big guy".
Why are people castigating Zimmerman and trying to exonerate Martin? There is something screwy about this whole media circus.

Turtle
Owasso, OK

Brandt Neider

Do you not believe in the judicial system. This case has been tried by an impartial jury which was chosen by both the prosecution and defense. They have weighed the evidence and concluded that George did not commit a crime. That is what the judicial system is for. It is preposterous that we are now second-guessing the verdict. This whole thing is a tragedy for both sides - there are no winners...

cjb
Bountiful, UT

If a young fit 17 year old feels threatened because they are being followed by an out of shape older man, why not just run away? Or if that seems an impossibility, simply call 911.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

Why does this story and the back stories keep going day after day after day after day? The trial we held, a verdict rendered. Move on to more important topics like why did Mitt Romney lose the election?

SEY
Sandy, UT

It doesn't matter what the jury decided, the court of public opinion has pronounced Zimmerman guilty of not being of the same race as Martin. If he were, we'd have never been made aware of this unfortunate incident.

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Mr. Neider "Zimmerman is a very big guy...."

And right there your whole argument crumbles. Good thing the jury didn't rely on a bunch of supposing.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

George Zimmerman is 5'8" and weighed 185 on the day that he was arrested. Trayvon Martin was 5'11" and he weighed 158 pounds. In addition, according to testimony given in court, Trayvon Martin was trained in martial arts. Testimony was given that he had the advantage and that he would have killed Zimmerman if Zimmerman had not been able to fire his weapon.

Martin had four minutes to flee if he felt that he was in danger. He had a cell phone that he could have used to call 911. He could have run to a door and asked for help. He could have done a lot of things. We'll never know why he chose to attack Zimmerman or why he chose to try to beat Zimmerman senseless - or worse.

Second guessing the jury is foolish. Evidence was heard. Unlike the O. J. Simpson trial, this jury listened to the evidence and used the facts presented before returning a verdict of not guilty. This jury was not swayed by Obama or Holder or any other person who publicly denounced that verdict or who demanded that Zimmerman be found guilty before the facts were presented.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Questions:

Why where illegal drugs found in Treyvon's system and yet the media doesn't talk about it?

Zimmerman even told police "it looks like he's on drugs"

He was

Why didn't Treyvon call police if he truly felt scared?

Why didn't Treyvon run home(facts proved he had 4 minutes to walk a few dozen yards home) if he truly was scared?

Why did he attack Zimmerman?

So many questions indeed.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

IF I was a fit young man with martial arts training, with a little bit of a chip on my shoulder, and knew I was doing nothing wrong.. and some guy I knew I could take was creeping me out... I think I would turn and pound his face a little. It's not that hard to imagine happening, is it?

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "IF I was a fit young man . . . and some guy . . . was creeping me out... I think I would turn and pound his face a little."

And, if you did so, you'd be committing assault and battery.

And if the guy creeping you out was armed and shot you as you pounded his head on the sidewalk, he'd be innocent of any offense against you or the law of the land.

Just as was Mr. Zimmerman.

It would still be tragic that you died so unecessarily, but it would have been your own fault.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Why hasn't the NRA issued a statement saying that if only Trayvon Martin was armed with a gun, this tragedy could have been avoided?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

procuradorfiscal,
It's not assault IF he felt threatened by they guy following him.

IF an unknown dude approached me in a threatening manner when I'm alone at night... I might react as Martin may have reacted. We don't know. I'm just saying I can imagine Martin reacting the way the defense said he reacted (which resulted in Zimmerman defending his life).

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@Ernest,

Because Trayvon was the one attacking Zimmerman, as the evidence proved to the jury.

The NRA should be coming out saying how carrying saved Zimmerman's life.

I know I'm glad he was able to protect himself.

That was a swing and miss for ya bud.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Interesting letter, interesting perspective. In fact, Zimmerman was wrong every step along the way, right up to the point that he drew his gun, and he was arguably wrong then. The jury, properly, only ruled on a single narrow legal issue, and found reasonable doubt. But Zimmerman saw . . . a pedestrian. He was wrong to call 9-1-1 in the first place. A black kid walking down the street should not be profiled as a 'potential threat.'
I've heard it said that Martin 'fit the profile' of the perpetrator of a series of burglaries. But those burglaries had no eyewitnesses. He 'fit the profile' in the sense that some folks said 'well, I'll betcha anything it was a black guy.'

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

A lot of "probably" in this letter and in some of the responses.

Zimmerman was acquitted.

We will all see what we wanted to see in this. For some it will be racism. For some it will be Zimmerman's wanna be Rambo dreams. For some it will be self defense. For some a justification for carrying a firearm. For some it will be about the loss of life.

For me...It was all about two stupid people making bad choices.

Another thought though...

Which party of the two had a long history of bad choices?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:MikeRichards

Uhhh, I think you are mistaken.

There was evidence--testimony in court that Zimmerman, not Trayvon, was trained in MMA.

"Adam Pollack, a personal trainer, talked about how he trained Zimmerman in mixed martial arts and boxing."

We will never know for sure what happened that night, because Trayvon is dead. The evidence and testimony presented provided the reasonable doubt Zimmerman needed under the law. The tragedy is yet another unarmed teenager was shot dead.

Obama and Holder DID NOT denounce the verdict. Obama: "We are a nation of laws and a jury has spoken," the president said in a statement. "I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son."

Holder talked about "stand your ground laws; "We must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely. It is our collective obligation to ensure that our laws reduce violence, and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent."

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

"More to the story?" And how would you propose getting the rest of the story, Al Sharpton, Rachel Maddow, Jesse Jackson or MSNBC? The jury heard the available facts and made a decision. Do you have inside information that would change the outcome of the trial? Because you want Zimmerman to be convicted of something/anything your complaint should be directed to the prosecution.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Why hasn't the NRA issued a statement saying that if only Trayvon Martin was armed with a gun, this tragedy could have been avoided?
9:13 a.m. July 17, 2013

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I was wondering the same thing --
In fact -- I've tried posting that twice [the DN monitor denied me, twice.]

I figured the 2nd Amendment folks would be thumping their chests about how easy it is to be found innocent in an unnecessary killing.

He HAD a cell phone.
He SHOULD have stopped escalating the problem and called a cop, period - end of comment.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Jeantel said the last words she heard on the phone were Treyvon yelling "Get off!" so maybe he was angry over being confronted like that. Who knows...

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Turtle
"Do you not believe in the judicial system. "

Roe vs Wade
Citizens United
Prop 8

I think most people believe the judicial system isn't perfect.

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