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Published: Wednesday, July 17 2013 10:29 a.m. MDT

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marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

This country, with the urging of outlets like the Deseret News, is doing the direct opposite of what it should be doing. What is it doing? It is pursuing a policy of austerity - cuts across the board including cuts in the economic safety net. The Deseret News thinks such cuts are harmless. Witness your brushing off of sequestering funds at HAFB. We should be pursuing New Deal type initiatives, but we are doing the direct opposite and things will not improve for that reason. If we take the advice of the Deseret News we may end up with an outright depression on our hands.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

And yet the "highly respected religious, business, and civic leaders" persistently push for things like the Gang of Eight bill, which would exacerbate the problem by flooding the nation with 50 million or so foreign workers, thus driving wages and job opportunities down even further.

SLars
Provo, UT

Now is not the time to flood this country with more visas, and 11 millon plus citizens. Now is the time to enforce current laws, and put Americans back to work.

The surplus labor bubble for business has burst. Work all your life then have your government give away your job is not acceptable. It's take the incentive to work away from millions of people.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Whether intentional or an unintended consequence, the inarguable fact is that tax laws of the past 30 years have facilitated a massive wealth redistribution away from the poor and middle class and towards the already-wealthy.

In college, I could afford rent, food, clothes, pay tuition and keep my car running with my 25 hr/week job that paid only a little better than minimum wage.

Try doing that now.

In our parents' generation, dad's income from his one job was more than enough for the family. Mom stayed home and helped us with school projects.

Today, it takes two or more incomes to maintain anything resembling a middle-class family life.

Why?

Inflation-adjusted wages have been stagnant or even declining for decades. Employers increasingly view employees as expendable, fully fungible and no more important to the bottom line than the price of diesel fuel.

Then comes 2008 and the most severe economic collapse since the Great Depression. Recovery is slowly being achieved, but largely through technology-driven improvements in productivity, and fewer employees are needed.

Is it any wonder that temp jobs are booming?

A cure for this requires overhauling our wildly inequitable tax laws.

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

If there's a crisis of confidence in the country, it's only because we just elected Jimmy Carter to his third term.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

while there is generally a tie between fiscal policy and economic expansion, they do not function in parallel.

use a sports car, as an analogy.

with continued government spending, the horsepower rating is 425. reduce government spending, and the horsepower rating drops to 400. Still PLENTY of power to go very fast.

with Obamacare and BO's declared war on the domestic coal industry, as well as his other anti-business and higher tax policies, he is leaving the 8 speed sports car in 3rd gear, with the parking brake on.

take off the parkng brake and shift into higher gear, and the 400 ponies will still move that car rapidly down the road.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Government cannot create jobs without using income taxes from the private sector. The government has tens of thousands of lawyers - and there are tens of thousands of lawyers in private practice who need more work. Government has tens of thousands of social workers when tens of thousands of social workers are looking for clients.

If "goverernment" needs a service performed, it should be required to hire businesses in the private sector to do the work.

Taxes revenues are over $1 TRILLION per year less than spending. Until more PRIVATE SECTOR workers have jobs, income taxes will not increase. Stealing money from the private sector by increasing the taxes assessed to the "rich guy" only forces businesses to close. The net result is less income tax collected.

Part-time work is the direct result of government mandates on business. Business owners cannot hire the people they need without Obama telling them what benefits they have to "give" their employees. One size does not fit all. Each business is unique. Each employee is unique. Government mandates were proven futile in the Soviet Union. Why is Obama forcing them on America?

Get government off our backs. Let the market work.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Marxist. Have you considered that it isn't "austerity" creating these employment issues but actually the government's war on businesses causing these problem? Obamacare mandates to employers for example? Government over regulations perhaps? How about the highest corporate taxes in the world, do you suppose that has an effect?

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Mountanman: "Have you considered that it isn't 'austerity' creating these employment issues but actually the government's war on businesses causing these problem?"

Reality check: The Dow is at record highs, as are corporate profits and corporate cash reserves. Meanwhile, the actual, real-world tax rates paid by corporations are at record lows and the labor movement has never been weaker or more fractured.

The "war on business" is fiction.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The unfortunate truth is that the presidency of President Obama has set back this nation 100 years in terms of workers and race relations. Not because of his failures but because of the widespread intense effort to make him fail.

At a time when we needed to be focused on the rebirth of freedom and rights for Americans, many of our leading institutions, business, religion and social have closed their doors, reduced investment and spending and in general done every thing they could to punish the American people for electing President Obama.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Blue. Obviously you have never owned a business.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

blue,
checked the employment figures lately?

tell the long term unemployed, the under-employed, the part-timers and temps how wonderful the stock market is doing. Go ahead, rub salt in their wounds.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

So...According to one poster...The Obama Administration has failed miserably simply because we wanted him to fail.

This is absurd.

We have families to feed, investments to grow, education to pursue, and dreams to live. No one is putting all that on hold just to spite the public for voting for our current President.

BTW...The stock market inflation is simply keeping up with the devaluation of the dollar. It is a poor indication of our economic health. Employment participation, interest rates, subsidy levels and so on, are better indicators of an economy's well being.

What we need? A fundamental change in our perceptions and values that can make a free-market representative republic work.

Core values of self reliance and personal responsibility.

If we can embrace these two concepts above all else, then we can become the wealth producing nation that stands as an example of the highest that human beings can be.

We have not been perfect, but we have shown the world the best that there has ever been!

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

European democracies usually have a labor party and a conservative (or some other named) party that represents capitalists of investors. There is little or no confusion on who each party represents. Its been a long time since labor had strong political backing in this Country. Hence, part-time jobs, few if any benefits, more women and children working and tough economic times for those who try to make money by working. Corporate values are not family values and never will be.

Arizona1
Tucson, AZ

Ultra Bob, to say that businesses are purposefully failing to punish the American people for electing Obama is silly. No businessman intentionally fails just because he doesn't like the election results. Businessmen are capitalists that want to be successful--and often work very hard to get to that point. They are not going to flush all their work down the toilet for such childish reasons.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Businesses aren't hiring a lot of new, permanenet employees, because they simply don't need them. Profits are at sky-high levels, and technology has enabled greater productivity with fewer employees.

With past technology breakthroughs, employement has caught up to short-term technological displacement of workers, but this gap between productivity and employment first appeared in the year 2000 and (so far) shows no signs of abatement.

This could be a very serious pressure point in the history of Capitalism. As technology makes employees less necessary - such as Amazon's acquisition of a Robot company that will help them eliminate warehouse jobs - this problem will become worse. There are only so many pizza delivery positions available, and in 20 years the Google auto-car may be able to replace them.

We may get to the doomsday scenario where kids ask their parents, "what exactly are people for, anyway?"

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

So the jobs situation isn't all that good... I could've sworn just a day or two ago there was an editorial about how sequestration was no big deal.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

atl134
yeah, and a new species of dinosaur was just discoverd in utah. so what's the connection?

no more related thatn your comment

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I can’t imagine that there are businessmen who purposefully cause their business to fail. But that doesn’t mean that they would not do it if it meant greater profit later. Closing their doors just means that they withdrew from the market and sat idle on the side. They probably did not do any thing illegal just immoral. I can think of no other reason for the hoarding of cash other than the hope for greater profits later.

In my lifetime there has never been this level of hate and anger toward a president and the federal government. I had never heard of the party-of-no before. I had never heard of non stop TV and radio hate that goes on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. But I have seen and heard that kind of hate from some people all my life.

To say it is only because of his policies is to deny truth.

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

@10CC "Businesses aren't hiring a lot of new, permanenet [sic] employees.. ..technology breakthroughs.. ..very serious pressure point.. ..doomsday scenario..."

And all of these amazingly unprecedented events in history just happened to synchronize with the implementation of Obamacare. What a remarkable coincidence! And who could *ever* have seen this coming?

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