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Published: Friday, July 12 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Carl,
you tell us how the shared solution makes all these great promises about vibrant communities, trails, yada yada yada, but you neglect to tell us the MOST important thing. How does it move people and goods from point A to point B? Maybe you were trying to hide something, that it really does NOT? maybe??

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Lost - I don't know much about the proposal, but it was pretty clear that the objective is to create self sustaining communities that have the services people require, resulting in fewer trip miles required to obtain these services. Make it so people canuse services in their own communities, shorten the trip distances.

There are obvious limitations to this approach. Not every community can support a megaplex movie theatre. Not every town wants a Walmart planted in its center. I appreciate its intent - but the reality of Utah's geography, emissions are going to be controlled. Killing Growth isn't an option. Killing jobs is neither a good option. Controlling what comes out of the tail pipe is really only one of the real impactful options.

ingslc
salt lake city, UT

Carl, you are absolutely right. UCAIR is a government entity created to contribute to solving our air pollution problem, but they REFUSE to take a public stance against new freeways? One wonders what the point is. Oh yeah, the point was to give the impression to the public that the state was doing something about the air quality and that all would be fine. When will the leadership realize that the people are not so dumb? At some point the rhetoric is going to have to match the actions. But so far, all I see are contradictions which point to either utter confusion and lack of any sort of plan, or outright corruption and lies.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

IRONY OF THE DAY: Gov. Herbert wants us to drive less. At the same time he wants to build a giant new freeway in Davis County.

Cingwell
Salt Lake City, UT

@Lost- UtahBlueDevil has it right. This plan would cut down on the need to move things longer distances. Of course it's not possible to cut out the movement of all "goods" from "point A to point B," but I believe that the shared solution would cut down on that need.

@UtahBlueDevil- Implementing more vibrant city centers would create jobs and create more vibrant local economies. Smart city planning in Clearfield, Layton, Kaysville, Hooper, etc. could lead to more local jobs, and decrease the need to travel long distances to get to work. This plan would keep more tax dollars local, and would create a more community oriented atmosphere. I'm not really asking for a "Wal-Mart" or a "Megaplex" in every city center; in fact, I'd like to see more local businesses in city centers that give back to the community- I think that's a possibility for every city along the freeway route.

Thanks for the comments.

RedShirtMIT
Cambridge, MA

Too bad this letter is full of half truths.

According to the American Lung association, the cities with the worst year-round air are in California, and Utah doesn't show up on the list.

Utah does have a problem with short term polution levels where for a few weeks per year the pollution is bad, but what is the impact?

Think of it like a rock concert. If you go to one 5 times per year will your hearing be damaged permanently? Now if you go every day, will you have permanent hearing damage?

So, if we only have a few weeks of poor air quality, what is the health impact of that? So far I have not seen any research into the effects of short term exposure to high pollution levels.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Cingwell,
just want to make sure I am understanding you correctly. the shared solution reduces the need to move people and things, thereby reducing exhaust. Thus it does not address HOW to move things from point A to point B.

in essence, it tackles the issue from a completely different point of view.

Did I get it right?

I guess the follow-up question is "what are the possible side effects and other ramifications"

there may not be any, or they may be minor.

just curious

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Without adequate highways cars slow down and idle, which causes even more pollution. The Legacy highway reduced pollution.

Cingwell
Salt Lake City, UT

Lost- You got it right. We will still have to move stuff (goods, people, etc) from point A to B, but it will decrease the need to do so, and the distance to do so.

There are some drawbacks. It will take an overhaul of the way we have planned our cities for the past 100+ years.

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