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Published: Wednesday, July 10 2013 6:55 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Here is a chance for the school to show if their "high standards" apply equally to all students, or if someone who can throw a ball in some silly game gets their numerous repeated transgressions overlooked.

The almost universally preferential and deferential treatment for student athletes encourages thuggish behavior which now seems to be an epidemic in the professional sports world.

Kudos to BYU and Utah for their bucking the trend and not tolerating this sort of behavior.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@DN Subscriber 2

Except utah did tolerate his bahavior. He left because he wanted to, not because utah asked him to.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

He left Utah "because he wanted to," just like nearly every player from Utah's 2012 team did, because he would've been finding his own way to pay for school if he hadn't. He was cancerous to that team, and needed institutional therapy and counseling that being on a basketball team can't provide. Ole Miss had no business touching him without at least a year of clean life, but I suspect unless he messes up while suspended that he'll be back by their season opener. Sad to see happen, but far from surprising.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Duckhunter,

Do you realize what it does to your credibility when you make a comment like you just did but are fact completely wrong?

Utah handled the Henderson situation with class and wanted him to get the help he needed. But make no mistake, he was no longer welcome to play with the basketball team.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

motorbike: "Duckhunter,

Do you realize what it does to your credibility when you make a comment like you just did but are fact completely wrong?"

What credibility?

Too bad that this kid couldn't keep his life in check. Talent doesn't equal success.

Just Truth
Saratoga Springs, UT

What a punk!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@motortrike

Do you know what it does to your credibility when you make claims like you just did with absolutely nothing to back up your claim?

Please post us the name, date, and time of the article we can all go read that say's henderson was "was no longer welcome to play with the basketball team."

If you can do that then I will rescind my comment. I'm betting you cannot. What you want is to make your own claim, with nothing whatsoever to back it up, in a "frantic and emotional" attempt to try to cast the abysmal utah basketball program in a good light. In order to do it you attempted to lamely use the tactic of trying to cast doubt on someone elses crediblity while providing no evidence to the contrary.

Fail.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Here is the Dnews article dated Thursday April 8th 2010 by Dirk Facer titled

"Utah Utes basketball: Marshall Henderson indeed leaving the program"

Here are the quotes from it and if you want to read it in its entirety you can google it or look it up using the dnews search function.

"My decision to leave Utah is not related to basketball. I want to be closer to home," Henderson said in a prepared statement. "Coach (Jim) Boylen's program also has certain rules and restrictions that I respect, but I don't feel they fit with my individualism. This is not about the coaches, the system or the players."

""Every situation has been a little different, and at least one was based on personal reasons outside of basketball," Boylen said in confirming Henderson's departure. "But I understand how difficult it has been on our fans that some players have left the team."

Nowhere does it mention henderson "was no longer welcome to play with the basketball team." So again I ask you to supply evidence to support your "frantic and emotional" attempt to smear me.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Duckhunter--

"@DN Subscriber 2

Except utah did tolerate his bahavior. He left because he wanted to, not because utah asked him to."

Evidence?

Duckhunter "fan"
Centerville, UT

Marshall Henderson was a punk when he played at Utah, and he's worse now than he was then. Although I am a Utah graduate and have always been a big Utah fan, I never liked Marshall Henderson. He was the exception, though, not the rule for what Utah basketball has generally been. Andre Miller, Mike Doleac, Keith Van Horn, etc. were quite different from Marshall Henderson. Jim Boylen was not a great coach at Utah, but my understanding is that the decision for Marshall Henderson to leave was mutual.

U 90
Corona, CA

Duckhunter,

Provide evidence that Marshall had done something wrong (i.e. broken the law, team rules) and Utah simply tolerated his behavior as your first post suggests.

Utah "fans" don't need to smear you, we let you smear yourself. Evidence please.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Duckhunter, if you are as intimate with college sports as you lead on to be, you're just being facetious and know as well as anyone else that what is put in the papers regarding transfers is a facade for what goes on behind closed doors of a team. Marshall even hinted at it in his version of an extremely bridled interview. If, as you say, Boylen's staff and the team tolerated his actions, why would he have any problems with the rules or their enforcement?

Down under
Salt Lake City, UT

Swimming coach and now a basketball player allowed to run wild. What is happening on the hill?

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@azute

I did supply evidence, it is right in my post. Article, paper, time, date, author.

Maybe you can find something different on Youtube when you're grading recruits for whittingham.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

duckhunter--

"Nowhere does it mention henderson 'was no longer welcome to play with the basketball team.' So again I ask you to supply evidence to support your 'frantic and emotional' attempt to smear me."

This is routine rhetoric in what gets released w/in the media, yet doesn't even remotely scratch the surface of telling the entirety of the story! Even then, Henderson speaks solely in generalities! This short statement hardly speaks to the totality of what in fact actually took place behind the scenes!

Furthermore, Boylen never specifically references Henderson [other than reportedly confirming it off camera/microphone], but rather merely makes general statements [per what's contained w/in quotation-marks], then concludes it by talking about players [plural] leaving!

Finally, how do these details in any measure, whatsoever, give either school an advantage/disadvantage?

Relevance?

Duckhunter "fan"
Centerville, UT

@Duckhunter:

I guess a newspaper article is all that you need for "evidence". How exactly did Utah "tolerate" the behavior of Marshall Henderson? The same way that everybody "tolerated" Jim McMahon breaking the honor code for 4 years? At least Marshall Henderson was gone after 1 year. But I guess it's OK, because McMahon was really good. I just love being your #1 "fan"!

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Down under

"Swimming coach and now a basketball player allowed to run wild. What is happening on the hill?"

Lol

Please....Henderson/Boylen are long gone....Both are 100% irrelevant! Lol

Heck, Henderson is now years/2 schools removed from UTAH! Lol

Swimming Coach is history, too!

Not to mention, neither relates to 2-Star byu, to boot!

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

azute

May 2009 - As a high school senior, Henderson is arrested in Tarrant County, Texas trying to use $800 of counterfeit money to buy marijuana in two separate exchanges.

January 30, 2010 - Henderson throws punch against BYU's Jackson Emery and is ejected from the game. The fracas begins around the 1:13 mark.

February 1, 2010 - Henderson is suspended one game for the punch.

April 7, 2010 - Henderson announces he is leaving Utah after one season, saying coach Jim Boylen's "restrictions" do not fit with his "individualism".

June 2010 - Stemming from his 2009 arrest, state prosecutors charge Henderson with forgery by possession of a forged writing to wit, and he is put on two years of deferred adjudication probation.

February 1, 2012 - Henderson is sentenced to four months in jail for violating probation terms after testing positive for marijuana, alcohol and cocaine.

July 10, 2013 - Henderson is suspended indefinitely by Ole Miss for a violation of team rules. As CBSSports first reported, the suspension is related to failed drug tests.

Do you honestly expect anybody to believe that Henderson wasn't "using" while he was at Utah? What exactly was Marshall referring to when he mentioned Boylen's "restrictions"?

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Henderson's gone, but he was an embarrassment to Utah sports and should have been shown the door much earlier. Boylen was too desperate for talent. His run-in with Haws was a classic loss of Henderson's self control and exposure of his character deficit. He's talented, but his persona will probably cost him millions in lost income.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Owl

"Henderson's gone, but he was an embarrassment to Utah sports and should have been shown the door much earlier. Boylen was too desperate for talent. His run-in with Haws was a classic loss of Henderson's self control and exposure of his character deficit. He's talented, but his persona will probably cost him millions in lost income."

Henderson lasted 1 year, not 4....Earlier? For what transpired w/Haws?

Please....Was hardly significant, to begin with, but the fact is, Haws deliberately baited Henderson, then completed his unsportsmanlike behavior as he proceeded to put on an Emmy Award winning performance in deceptively making it something it clearly wasn't.

Trust me, Haws was laughing-out-loud, off camera, about how he "got over" on Henderson, make no mistake about it. Haws has obviously spent a great deal of time watching The San Antonio Spurs over the years.

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