Published: Thursday, July 11 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
OK if the Affordable Health Care Act is repealed, what is planned to replace it
with? Or are we happy with the current insurance situation?
We waited a very long time for Congress to do anything regarding health care,
and then, when Obamacare was finally adopted, it was essentially a Republican
plan. The individual mandate was first proposed by the Heritage Foundation in
1989 and subsequently was offered as part of the Republican response to
President Clinton's health reform plan in 1993. Finally, a version of
Obamacare became the signature accomplishment of Governor Mitt Romney in
Massachusetts. I agree it is a hodgepodge, and we can do better. But if we
repeal it in its entirety and then try to put together a new plan, we will be
waiting forever to get something new in place. I suspect that Mr. Liljenquist
would be one of those, who if in office, would be actively preventing
replacement legislation from being enacted.There are better
alternatives - specifically, a single-payer system. Why not expand Medicare to
cover everyone? It has very low administrative costs compared to private
insurance, and it works well. We could allow individuals to purchase
supplemental insurance from companies of their choice, just as Medicare
participants do. Problem solved.
"Where, as in the case of sickness and accident, neither the desire to avoid
such calamities nor the efforts to overcome their consequences are as a rule
weakened by the provision of assistance – where, in short, we deal with
genuinely insurable risks – the case for the state’s helping to
organize a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong."-- Hayek
"...as in medicine", as a practicing physician I am thoroughly sick of
trying to treat uninsured people. These persons often cannot afford medicines
required for their conditions, and they certainly cannot afford home IV therapy,
not to mention hospital bills. No one plans on becoming sick or injured, but
this happens every day. Most of these uninsured patients have smartphones and
they drive automobiles, so it's easy to ask questions about their
priorities. (Their automobiles must be insured, by law.) The saying
about how your freedom ends where my rights begin applies here. The general
public has the right to avoid paying for medical care of the uninsured. Mr.
Lilenquist and the other ACA naysayers should offer solutions to these problems
rather than just saying "no". For now the concepts of individual
insurance exchanges, employer coverage, and expansion of Medicaid are all we
have. Let's get going.
Everyone that demands Cadillac quality healthcare for Yugo or Pinto prices is
fooling themselves! You get what you pay for! Obamacare is just another attempt
by the government to short circuit economic realities and get something for
nothing! Like every other price manipulation scam, it will fail! In fact, it
already has failed! There is only one way to get cheaper healthcare; settle for
less quality healthcare and even the great Obama can not change that! Obamacare
offers neither cheap healthcare nor quality healthcare.
All the time, man hours and money wasted on this. I can only imagine how many
hospital's and Doctor's we could of built.
The whole point and purpose of the ACA was to bring about a single payer system.
It may happen sooner than expected...
Until repubs offer an alternative plan, I'll just consider their
complaining about the ACA as merely sour grapes for a Democrat passing a
Republican health care plan. They must be really angry that Bush
never got around to doing anything about health care despite having 8 years to
do it. The party of no solutions and do-nothing is becoming less and
less relevant with each passing day.
The alternative plan is the only plan that is Constitutionally legal. That plan
is to do as Mitt Romney did and let the STATE or the PEOPLE handle their health
care needs. If a State's Constitution allows that State to mandate health
insurance, then that State has been authorized by its citizens to perform that
duty. If a State's Constitution does not allow the State to mandate health
insurance, then that duty falls to the people to furnish their own health
insurance.The United States Constitution DOES NOT authorize Congress
to tax us for health care nor does it allow Congress to mandate health care for
American citizens. The Court ruled only that Obamacare was a tax. Because that
tax had not been implemented, no harm could be proven; therefore, the Court
could not rule on the TAX. The Court did not approve Obamacare. The Duties of the Federal Government are enumerated. Those duties cannot be
added to or subtracted from without an amendment. The 10th Amendment handles all
duties not enumerated and strictly forbids the Federal Government from
appointing itself to perform those duties. They are to be left to the States or
to the People.
Freedom fighter. The Republicans have proposed several alternative plans; tort
reform, healthcare savings accounts and allowing insurance companies to compete
across state lines. One can argue about the effectiveness of these proposals but
the most important ingredient is CHOICE! Obamacare is forced upon us and no one
has any choices!
@MountainmanEvery European country that offers a universal
healthcare plan provides health care coverage for ALL of their citizens at about
half the cost of healthcare in the US. It is not noticeably worse healthcare
coverage, either. There an a GREAT many inefficiencies in the US system, and
most would be remedied by expanding Medicare to cover everyone.
@ Chymist. There are about 40-50 million uninsured Americans (many by choice).
That's more than the entire population of every country in Europe and with
their near zero population growth and very little immigration,can you tell me
how we are going to pay the healthcare bills for 40-50 million people? Single
payer will not help, all that does is eliminate competition and creates a
healthcare monopoly. Can you name one monopoly that has ever reduced costs,
provided incentive for technology advancements or cared about quality?
Liljenquist's column is a microcosm of the national Republican Party--just
say no but offer no solutions. Today's Tribune cartoon ("Republicans
vow to repeal and replace Obamacare with . . . Eleph-icare") accurately
depicts what the GOP has to offer.
"The alternative plan is the only plan that is Constitutionally legal. That
plan is to do as Mitt Romney did and let the STATE or the PEOPLE handle their
health care needs."So why hasn't Utah done that?
Massachusetts did. Why not Utah? Under the ACA Utah is permitted to
opt out and create its own state operated health care system like Romneycare for
Mass. So why hasn't Utah's legislature gotten off their rears to do
it? Do we lack the proactitvity and accountability to do it? Do we fear funding
it just like how we fear funding education?Repubs have not a single
leg to stand on. Don't like Obamacare? Fine. But offer a
solution. Want a state centered solution? Fine. Then Utah, get off your rear and
create and fund it. Don't want to do anything? Fine. Then stop
The House has repealed it. Over and over and over again. Complete waste of
time.Fine, you want to get rid of it, propose something better. The
status quo is completely unacceptable. I'm not a huge fan of the ACA
either, but a single-payer plan proved politically untenable. So we went with a
conservative, Republican plan, the Mitt Romney plan. And Republicans still
whine about it.
Iron Rod,Too much MSNBC for you! The repubs HAVE offered solutions, MSNBC
and the DNC just won’t let you know about them. Please stop repeating the
lie that repubs offered no solutions.But when you pull a knife out
of someone’s back, do you replace it with something, or just try to heal
the wound. Doing NOTHING would have been better than Obamacare. FreedomFighter41,See comment above. Question, why are you fighting
against freedom as your name and comments suggest?Steven Warren,See comment for Iron Rod.
It should be repealed. And replaced with a single payer health care system.
Which has been proven time and again in nation after nation to provide a better
outcome for a lower per capita cost than our mess of a system.
Those complaining there are no alternatives to the ACA simply reveal they
aren't paying attention. There are dozens of alternative plans and polcy
proposals out there. They also reveal a terrible penchant for
blindly following the "we have to do something!" argument - without
knowing whether that "something" is better or worse than what we already
have.The goal of health care reform should not be to insure
everyone. It should be to ensure that everyone has access to affordable
services. Contrary to politicians' statements, the former prevents the
This long history of complaining about the ACA from the right reminds me of
Laman and Lemuel from the Book of Mormon. When Nephi's bow broke, what did
they do? Did they help him fix it? Did they offer solutions? Nope. All they did
was murmur. Same thing here. When will the GOP stop
imitating Laman and Lemuel and help solve some of our nation's problems?
It is sad to see America sinking in the mud like this with no way to save
itself. Yes we can and should blame corrupt and inept leaders like Obama but
Barack didn't elect himself to office. The people of this country - as a
majority - have fallen off the wagon. As a majority now America has become a
lazy, ignorant, entitlement bound, uninformed society not deserving of freedom
or prosperity. The remaining 40% who are patriotic and smart don't have the
political power anymore to overcome the ignorant and stupid majority along with
their corrupt media. It feels like we are being drug under by a giant boat
anchor tied around our necks. Obamacare is nothing more than an ugly by-product
of the state of the union.
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