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Published: Sunday, July 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

For those who think porn is a victimless crime, you need to get your head out of the sand and face reality. FBI stats show that porn is used by 81% of rapists. In another study conducted in Canada, 100% of child molesters in the study used porn. I know all about those who say there is no causal relationship, but again, you don't know what you're talking about. In Australia, when porn was made more easily available in NSW. Rapes increased by 25% while they stayed the same in states where nothing was changed.

Porn is a major cause of divorce in the church. 1 in 3 referrals to counseling are for porn problems. 50% of men are addicted and 90% have looked at it. The average age a porn addict first started is 12.

Destroys and irrevocably changes lives. I know. I was raped by a 16 y/o porn addict.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

The problem arises when people try to define pornography. According to BYU, a masterwork by Rodin is porn. Would that "standard" also apply to Michelangelo's David or Botticelli's Venus? What would the DNews propose to do? Shut down the internet? Censor books and movies? Cut off cable TV at the state line? Put drapes on Rodin's statuary? It's easy to point with alarm, but what do you do about it?

BarkforSark
PROVO, UT

Sadly, pornography is one of those things that a lot of people have to experience the negative effects of first-hand before they can actually understand how damaging it is. It's real easy to say, "Oh, just let people look at what they want. It's their life." They wouldn't be saying that if they watched their spouse change in front of their very eyes over the course of their marriage to the point where a divorce was necessary. And what happens if they have kids? How does all that affect them? What problems will those children face later in life because of one addiction? It's all very tragic.

fowersjl
Farmington, Utah

Amen and amen!

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Haven't we bigger fish to fry than to go through a series of articles designed to keep people riled up about porn?

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

A couple of things here. The broken windows theory is a strange one to pull out, especially in light of its complete failure in the war on drugs.
There is currently enough pornography created that to try and "ban" it now wouldn't work. You would not need to film another pornographic movie ever, enough have been made.
The writer has either had a very bad experience with porn or refuses to see that the people who visit a porn website once a month are NOT addicted to porn. If you drank once a month, or even 2 or 3 times are you an alcoholic? No probably not. So what are they doing? Answer: What comes naturally to the human body.
I'll grant there are those who are harmed by these images. There are those who are not. Its just like everything else.

jimmypage
Meridian, ID

I applaud the D News for shedding light on this destructive, pervasive issue.

"For the sake of innocent victims and a nation losing touch with the value of committed relationships, marriage and families, it's time to turn prosecution efforts toward ending adult pornography at all levels."

As much as I would love to see this happen, I find it hard to be hopeful. Gordon B. Hinckley said something to the effect "I am generally optimistic... but in this case, I'm a realist." I share that sentiment. This problem is going to get worse before it gets better.

Shane333
Cedar Hills, UT

An important topic to address, especially with the increasing prevalence of pornography. There is a legal challenge for curtailing porn. It is highlighted by the article quote, "While incidents of rape or other sexual assaults may not be on the rise..."

If a definitive link between porn and crime, or porn and the destruction of marriage (outside of religious standards and influences) cannot be proven, it will be difficult to legally justify imposing more government regulation on the industry.

I do not say this to justify porn. I mention it only to explain that objective proof of problems linked to porn will be needed to justify any government intervention. Otherwise the burden of regulation will fall by default to the individual or parents.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

I agree with the Deseret News editorial board. I recently saw an youtube presentation about a pornography study done at a university. A professor wanted to compare the effect of pornography on young men's brains. The problem is he could not find a control group of young men who weren't viewing pornography. The presenter talked about the effects of viewing pornography in terms of shorter attention spans and wasted time. We are going to have a generation of young men who cannot care for themselves, who cannot care for their future families.

To the extent this is true, it seems that pornography isn't just degrading to women it is also degrading to men.

Linus
Bountiful, UT

Pornography erodes marriage, so what can you expect from an administration that refuses to protect and defend marriage?

Tyler Ray
Taylorsville, UT

Right before he was to be executed for raping and murdering over 30 women, Ted Bunde admitted where he went wrong. He lived in a great home with loving parents, but he had a terrible addiction to pornography. He says that's what led him to his gross crimes. He also said every man he knew in prison who was in for a violent crime. EVERY SINGLE ONE had an addiction to pornography. Amazing that people justify pornography like it's harmless.

FreedomFighter41
Orem, UT

I agree, it gives a skewed view on what love really is. Porn is bad.

However, I believe that comprehensive Sex Education would do wonders to combat porn. It helps to eliminate the curiosity about sex. It also helps students understand the consequences. Too many here in our state have no clue what sex is. The parents don't want to talk about it, the Eagle Forum doesn't want the schools to teach about it, so students go to locker rooms, MTV, and the Internet to learn about it.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Time for a four part series of shaky statistics, leaps of logic, and guilt-driven moralizing. So much for consenting adults having freedom to do as they see fit...

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Your suggestion is correct. Pornography is a serious crime and even seemingly small offenses should be aggressively prosecuted.

I fail to understand why those who perform in hard core porn movies are not prosecuted for prostitution. They are engaging in acts for pay.

I fail to understand why those who hire them are not prosecuted for pimping. They arrange for people to engage in these acts for profit.

The biggest difference between what a prostitute does and what a porn actress or actor does is; a prostitute seduces on person at a time. A movie seduces every person that watches is. One hides behind the first amendment. The other cannot.

Let's get some consistency here.

Mariner
ALPINE, UT

The complacency among politicians and insurance companies
In recognizing and treating this real mind changing disease is
proof of the power of profits in this deplorable business and possible denial of their
own addictions.
The only way at this point that we can fight this addiction
If the classy women in this country need to say "Enough!"
And stand up against being objectified.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

That's fine for you to take a stand against pornography.

Unfortunately, it's your behavior that speaks much more loudly than your words.

I suggest you clean your own house first before telling the rest of us to. And that means for the Deseret News to stop advertising films that contain pornography. Certainly there's a price to be paid by not having that additional revenue. But your words will fall on deaf ears as long as you tell people to stay away from the stuff you peddle.

And while we're at this topic, don't you think it would be wise to also counsel those involved in the distribution of pornography, such as hotel chains (Marriott, etc.), to also recognize that no good comes from this? Again, the price to be paid is the loss of revenue. But if, as you put it, the welfare of our society is at stake, then responsible action should be taken by everyone, and principle should trump profit. Right?

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Certainly the same thing applies to modeling, beauty pagents, young women wearing immodest clothing, and if you're honest about the topic, it includes young women wearing makeup in public.

And while we're at it, let's talk about the female version of pornography, raunchy romance novels, which paint a completely unrealistic portrait of men and what they can do for women in a relationship. It wrongly suggests that "trophy" men are rich, sexy, drive a Ferrari, and act like bad boys.

If the "broken windows" theory is valid, it certainly applies to these elements, as well.

Betcha
Waltham, MA

I don't think the broken windows theory broke down, I think the problem comes when so very many people do it, you can't stop every body, and since our society has become so very morally bankrupt, it is no surprise that this and other addictions are out of control. I believe the very core of our society is broken, we can't ,discipline children because we may hurt their self esteem. Parents are abdicating their responsibility of parenting because they want to be a friend. Schools can't take away a phone or any other devise that is distracting because it is a child's RIGHT to have it, So anything at all that people want to do now day's they can get away with, And because people have called everything "Natural" we have opened the door to justification. When is it going to be "Natural " for an older man to have what he calls a relationship with a young 10 year old girl? Do you call that 'Natural as well?' With the decline of morals, anything is alright!... We are in BIG TROUBLE!!

heavenonearth
Grantsville, UT

When a person has not connected to their own divine self and felt the all-consuming love of God, then is it any wonder why external sources are sought? To find and connect to God/Christ is the longing of the soul to return to this ultimate source of love. It's interesting to me that two of Utah's big cities are in the top 10 porn users in the country.

Walt Nicholes
Orem, UT

Society has so many ills. King Benjamin said: "And finally, I cannot tell you all the things whereby ye may commit sin; for there are divers ways and means, even so many that I cannot number them."

Who decided that pornography was the worst? When I was young marriages were failing because husbands drank too much. Later on they were failing because one spouse or the other took a lover. A marriage I am close to is failing because of a spouse who is toying with drugs. There are many which fail because of gambling or overspending. If this is about saving marriages, then it is too narrow. If this is about fighting only one sin among many then it is too narrow.

What is needed is a general return to righteous behavior, and that cannot be legislated or enforced - only taught.

Bring on your articles - they may do some good, but they will not end the problem.

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