Published: Sunday, July 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
Glenn Beck is no different from other demagogues in American history, Joe
McCarthy, Father Coughlin, etc., with their nonsense. He is consistently
puerile, mean-spirited, and disrespectful to say the least. But this brother
makes it clear that Beck is making a serious mess for the LDS church to which I
belong. I wish he would grow up.
Beck needs to keep 'bringing the crazy'. It's his schtick, and
it's funny, if nothing else. A little concerning, perhaps, how many people
seek him out that seem to attribute value beyond comedy to his routine, but I
guess that's the state of society today. I imagine a lot of French people
don't just wonder about beck but also those who follow?
People don't pay money to see "moderate". From the DN
write up on Beck's latest show " Beck's overarching mission right
now isn't necessarily political, he said. It's spiritual. He envisions
growing kindness across America, and specifically, faithful members of various
religions who respect and admire one another."It is interesting
how much his mission statement isn't in concert with his rhetoric. It is
an odd way to spread the gospel by castigating those who live on the other side
of some arbitrary man made line. Patriotism is fine.... love of and loyalty to
country are great things. But from a spiritual standpoint, I really doubt God
loves people who live on one side of a line more or less versus another, even if
they are French."faithful members of various religions who
respect and admire one another."You would think that statement
would include people off all countries.
If a conservative doesn't like what a talk show host or a book author
writes, he just changes the channel or doesn't buy the book. If a liberal
doesn't like a talk show host or a particular book they demand opposing
views be silenced, shouted down and banned. They can not resist ridiculing,
demeaning and condemning people with whom the disagree. All this from people who
constantly tell us they are the "tolerant" ones"! Free speech is not
just for liberals anymore. It's interesting to watch and listen to how
irritated and angry liberals get about Glenn Beck's successes! What blatant
I don't listen to Glenn Beck so I don't know what he is saying. But I
can guess it probably isn't good. Thanks for the letter. In today's
world, we can talk to people all over the world. So everything we say is known.
Glenn Beck should probably ask himself that while what he says might sound good
to some people in the US, a lot of other people are overhearing him. Maybe then
he should ask himself, "What if I was talking face-to-face with this
Best letter I've read in quite some time.Please, my friend,
don't think that all Mormons are like Glenn Beck. In fact, I really
don't see how Beck can be considered Mormon. To me, he stands for
everything a Mormon should be against. Anger, paranoia, hate, lies,
manipulation, etc. He does everything for money. I don't see
how anyone could be a good Mormon and watch/read Glenn Beck. I turned his show
on for 5 mins and felt dirty. I would hope that many others would turn him off
as well. If our savior was in the room with us, do you think he'd approve
of Beck? If not, then why are we still watching him?
This is an excellent letter, but it's a waste of time.Glen Beck
is NOT interested in the welfare of this nation and its people. His ONLY
interest lies in the size of his bank accounts.This letter is
reasonable, but Beck is not.
Mountanman,Uh, absolutely no one is demanding that Glenn Beck be
'silenced' or 'shouted down' or 'banned.' This
letter is from a French Latter-day Saint who is merely asking Beck, as a fellow
Church member, to tone down his rhetoric. Which strikes me as a perfectly
reasonable thing to ask for. Also speaking as a liberal, I'm
neither irritated or angry at Beck's successes. I'm amused by them.
He's a silly man, with nothing of value to add to the national discourse; I
watched his show for two weeks once, doing research for a paper, but
haven't bothered with him since. But one does hear of him and what
he's up to. It's worth an occasional chuckle, in the spirit of
Puck's great line 'what fools these mortals be.'
I seem to notice the complete absence of any specific criticism of Mr Beck.Tell us wherein the man is mistaken and explain why, using specific
facts and sound reasoning.Personally I am FOR freedom of speech and
against hatred of people, without exception. It isn't very convincing to
promote love of mankind while hating individuals who disagree with you, even if
vehemently.Let's discuss his teachings; quotes and context
would be helpful in such a discussion.
The letter itself may have a great point. I haven't personally heard Glenn
make anti-French comments (I listen to him fairly often but not always) even
though it is an American weakness to attack France, usually all of Europe, in a
blanket kind of way.Where is the criticism, though, for the many
American opinionists who dismiss an entire continent as "Euro-trash".
Why don't people explain their animosity and reasonings? Not
all of Europe, for example, is in the Common Market, if you dislike
supranationality,nor do all trade in Euros. Nations who do, do not enjoy the
full support of their countrymen. What happened to a generous estimation of the
best qualities of nations occasionally? So many do deal in self congratulation
built largely on a low estimation of others, and often wilful ignorance.Let me show you, if it is ever published to this forum, what I mean in
the thread regarding home schooling in Germany. Assessing Germany in terms of
its poor record in human rights historically, I have not failed to compliment
Germany on producing some great inventors, scientists and composers.
When I tried to post a comment pointing out Mountanman's hypocrisy as he
tries to accuse other of the same, it was banished by DN's censors.
I'm going to try again in hopes that the censors will exercise a degree of
fairness this time. This post is certainly no better nor worse than much of
what he has posted here.MM, how many times in this very blog have we
heard you urging that one or another "liberal" writer, TV show, movie
maker or other with whom you disagree be banished and banned?Are you
really incapable of seeing your own inconsistency or is that you do it
Glen Beck still has some growing up to do, hopefully he will do it quickly. My
impression of him is he desires to do the right thing.
Why would any American want another American to stop using his right to speak?
Glenn Beck has as much right to speak as does anyone else.If you
don't like what Glenn Beck talks about, then talk something that you do
like. He believes that our government is in serious trouble. He uses facts to
back up his statements. If you believe otherwise, then show us your facts.
Tell us why jailing a movie maker was warranted after Benghazi. Tell why
Snowden, a whistle blower, is being hunted down even as the government continues
to collect information about every email that we send and every cellphone call
that we make.Governments, world-wide, use suppression of speech to
intimidate people into silence.Every American should encourage
speech. In no other way will Obama's "transparency" every become
"transparent". Newspapers quake when anyone speaks out.
They know that "big brother" is watching. They're afraid! Security
has become more important to them than truth. It's becoming obvious that
the 4th Estate is just another branch of the White House. The once-proud media
is cowering before the government instead of exposing corruption.
"If a conservative doesn't like what a talk show host or a book author
writes, he just changes the channel or doesn't buy the book."Really.... is that why FoxNews spends most of their criticizing the other
side.... rather than just reporting the news. Do we really need to list all the
anti-liberal opinion pieces here on the DN, or by its readers, or even you, to
prove that conservatives hardly just move on? It is the
conservative movements constant negative messaging that finally made me go from
being Republican to independent. Conservatives hardly resemble anything you
describe here.And there in lies the irony of the comment. Great
government comes from great debate. Dialog pro and against is the basis of all
good debate. To pretend that contending ideas could not, or should not be
entertained I don't think is the question here. Disagreeing with someone
isn't censoring them, not is it denying them freedom of speech. Great people can disagree in opinion and policy, and yet high levels of
respect for each other. Simple mindedness is the breading ground of extreme
thought... when one is unwilling to entertain others ideas.
re:Gildas"I seem to notice the complete absence of any specific
criticism of Mr Beck."Because DN moderators aren't allowing
my comments giving specific examples of where Mr. Beck was wrong or angered
Its not just the French Glenn Beck has angered. He has angered Jewish groups as
Well, it's a good thing the French never say anything bad or hateful about
America, or the French toast, French Fries, French bread, and French's
Mustard industries might all suffer.
the best way to get rid of a parasite like Beck is stop feeding him. The more
attention we give him the longer he sticks around. Let him have his fee speech
but don't feed into it and his stage will slowly shrink into the oblivion
As an actual Glenn Beck listener I can't recall hearing Glenn have much to
say about France, the French government or the French people since they opted
not to send troops to Iraq. At that time they received a good drubbing from
commentators all across the political spectrum.Those of you who only
know Beck through his detractors' reports may not realize that much of his
radio show is presented in satire. Those who want to discredit the man tend to
quote his satire as if it were serious commentary. Taken out of context he can
be portrayed as evil. I believe that the opposite is true. Mr Beck and his team
soften the sharp edge of current political and social events, which without
their sometimes dark humor can be depressing to conservative listeners like
me.Beck's underlying message is that people of all religions
and political leanings have a lot in common and that we need to come together to
face the challenges of the future.If you check out the online
programs you will find a more serious presentation of views and events.
By the rate of "denied" comments today -- It appears the DN
monitor is clearly an avid Glenn Beck fan.Be sure to add
"anything negative - truthful or not - toward Glenn Beck" in your DN
list of reasons a posting can be denied.
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