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Published: Sunday, June 30 2013 11:30 p.m. MDT

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hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

These are great recruiting upgrades.....if your comparing your program against Idaho St or Dixie.

Any BCS program can offer big venues but can also add

1 for 1 with storied program forever
Division and confernce championhips
Elite bowl tie ins.

Go ahead and drink th kool-aid but understand what it really means (big carp in a stagnat swamp)

Common-Tator
Saint Paul, MN

Was that "exposure" not precisely the driving force behind going independent? For fans, it was definitely frustrating while living outside the geographic bounds of "The Mountain", and only getting to see / hear Cougar games via streaming audio.

For potential recruits, this is a decided boon. For fans, it's simply "fantastic." For missionary work (firesides), it is ideal.

u25
West Jordan, UT

How can independence help recruiting. Since announcing indy the y has had there 3 worst recruiting classes ever.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Lots of jealousy from the hill trolls this morning.

It's a great time to be a BYU fan!

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@hedgie

Don't be so nervous, just accept the fact that BYU is a unique institution with a National Brand and a "Genuine Legacy". They (BYU) are desired by the biggest name in the World of Sports, ESPN.

BYU has averaged 10 broadcasts a year on the ESPN networks.
Utah...1.

Coat-tailing bottom-feeders of Conferences (and every conference has them) go unnoticed.
They are the Washington Generals of their league. Sparring partners for the real football programs of their Conference.
see...Utah

Many schools need a Conference-Crutch. They are unable to go it alone on their own name.
And that's OK too...see Utah

BYU has established assets, one hundred million dollars has been invested into BYU broadcasting alone. Their program has checked all the boxes with College Football's highest honors.

BYU fans all over the world can now once again see every game on TV.
If that means playing in San Diego instead of El Paso or Boise...so be it.

As for the only bowls that really matter, the 4 team playoff, BYU's access is just as good as any other school.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

You want to know what helps recruiting?

Going to BCS games, winnings BCS games, top 5 finishes, having true athletes as potential teammates

Out of Utah, BYU, and USU, care to know who WON the recruiting battle the last 3 years?

Utah.

And that "winning" can be determined by EITHER

average stars

OR

number of kids who picked Utah out of kids who had offers to all 3 state schools

And if you think stars don't matter....

Nick Saban disagrees with you

GO Utes!

BYU sports on TV in Missouri
Lebanon, MO

Having lived outside of Utah for the past 15 years I have seen a huge difference in exposure relative to independence.. As part of the MWC I had to really struggle to find the games and 30% of the time even if we maxed out our cable upgrades we still would not have access. Rarely did anyone from work mention they watched BYU play one of their games. Since going independent we have been able to watch every game and it is common for my coworkers to comment about having seen BYU playing on TV. Knowing that your friends and family can watch you play every week regardless of where they live in the United states I am sure helps to bring players to BYU.

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

Chris B

"Out of Utah, BYU, and USU, care to know who WON the recruiting battle the last 3 years?

Utah."

Last year between Utah, BYU and USU, Utah came in last in the final polls.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

Like most articles on BYU, most of the comments here are from frustrated little Utes with apparently nothing to do on a Monday morning. As bad as BYU may be, Utah gets its recruits and fan base from exactly the same places as BYU, and from an outsider's perspective is also a Utah school with mostly Mormons. One student body lives on a campus with lots of peculiar culture norms. The other lives at home with Mom. So not a big difference.

I don't get it...if Utah has supposedly "moved on", why are some Ute fans so fixated on BYU?? I'm the oldest of several brothers...I could care less what my "little brothers" are doing and don't sit around dissing their achievements all week long.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

We are getting tons of awesome recruits right now.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Quote All American BYU qb Mark Wilson. “(Independence) is interesting, but I’m an old-school guy who misses rivalries and all that history. Now we don’t talk about that stuff. It's different schools. They are great schools, but schools we don’t have much history with.” (added note - one or two games does not a history make.)

Independence is like a one-time fling. Short term enjoyment. Long term meaningless. Nothing on the line. Each game means nothing towards league standings; nothing towards which, if any, possible bowl invitations; nothing towards all-conference selections; nothing in comparison with previous (or future)wins/losses against each opponent; nothing towards developed rivalries; in short, it is an island - isolated and set apart from any other considerations. It is only a game - be it against Nebraska or Idaho, or New Mexico, or Middle Tennessee State, or....

ekute
Layton, UT

We will soon start to see the disadvantages independent recruiting.
Then the byu "fans" can add another excuse to "honor code" and "the refs".

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

Who am I sir?

"Independence is like a one-time fling. Short term enjoyment. Long term meaningless. Nothing on the line. Each game means nothing towards league standings; nothing towards which, if any, possible bowl invitations; nothing towards all-conference selections; nothing in comparison with previous (or future)wins/losses against each opponent; nothing towards developed rivalries; in short, it is an island - isolated and set apart from any other considerations. It is only a game - be it against Nebraska or Idaho, or New Mexico, or Middle Tennessee State, or...."

I will forward your sage analysis on to Notre Dame to illuminate them as the futility of independence.

FYI: Last year the Cougs had 10 games nationally televised, your Utes 1. Conference bottom dwellers indeed get little national exposure and attention.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Replacing Utah with Nebraska is helping recruiting.

Playing a ute team who is behind BYU, USU, Weber, and Bingham is not very attractive.

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

Geez, look what furry friend came out of hibernation. Or has she been here all along using one of her other handles?

This article and its conclusion cannot possibly be correct or my name is not Howie Vet Chris gored navel S. B. Earnest Mildred the IV.

Only a national brand can make independence work to its advantage.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

I think most BYU fans realized that going independent was going to be difficult at first in terms of recruiting. Independence was a gamble at first, and didn't provide the most enticing scheduling. I think BYUs recruiting suffered somewhat the initial couple years as recruits were mulling over what kind of program BYU would be and where they would play etc. Now that the schedules are becoming more enticing and BYU has shown that independence works (much more money and exposure than the MW), more of the bigger name recruits like Warner, Kurtz, kearsley, etc are starting to be more interested. I think in the end if BYU wins and makes splashes nationally you will only see that recruiting get better.

Utah can continue being #1 in recruiting and finishing last where it counts IMO. Mcnasty hit it on the head...no one cares about your recruits, they care how you finish. For ute trolls it's all about stars, not championships or rankings, so it's no wonder U find yourself getting sent to the back of the line while your big brothers (BYU included) get their rankings, awards, and bowls and U wait for sloppy seconds.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Busy morning for the Ute trolls. They are nervous that a school with higher standards for academics and personal conduct is getting more press. Being the doormat in the PAC12 doesn't seem to fill their needs.

morpunkt
Glendora, CA

@worf- I agree with you completely. And, as you especially know, coming from Texas, it will greatly interest many, within that vast football talent pool to look at living in Provo for 4 years.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

And the BYU spin continues...

The truth is that BYU's three recruiting classes since the Indy announcement have been the lowest ranked in Bronco's tenure.

Y's Guy
Salt Lake City, UT

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT
"And the BYU spin continues...
The truth is that BYU's three recruiting classes..."

That's it? That's all you've got? BYU's three recruiting classes? That's what you're hanging your hat on? Talk about spin. LOL

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