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Published: Friday, June 28 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree with the editorial. Too many of our legislators in D.C. say "no" rather than "let's talk" whenever something they don't like is before them. It's rigid and simplistic in a political landscape full of gray rather than black and white. Reagan knew that and he is regarded one of our best presidents. He knew how to make deals rather than just dig in and repeat "no" over and over.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Awesome editorial. Reagan is considered the patron saint of the modern conservative movement but the most radical have not learned that he was able to accomplish much of his agenda via compromise. Also, that he built a big tent Republican party. Too many today want a (very) small tent of party purists. One that will have increasingly less influence.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

We can continue to slap a band-aid on a surting artery and then tell ourselves that we "fixed" the problem. There are many things that needed to be fixed in the farm bill. Democrats wanted to put another band-aid on the bill. They refused to face the real problems and now they mock the Republicans for not accepting their band-aid approach.

There comes a time when things must stop completely and be entirely reviewed. The goal must be re-evaluated. The results must be examined. The question that should be asked is whether there should even be a farm bill. Democrats look only at the voters who get government aid when they should be asking themselves how many of those people should learn to work for their food. We do not have the resources to feed the ablebodied who are too lazy to work for their own food and we should never pay farmers to NOT grow crops.

Its time to review the entire program. We don't need band-aids we need tourniquets

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Duh. But I hope they keep behaving as spoiled children. The sooner they vanish from the political landscape, the better.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Just more leftist whining when they don't get what they want.

Great spin though, making it look like the conservatives missed out. But the song is so old, no one is buying it.

Pendergast
Salt Lake City, UT

to Badgerbadger

Where recently do things get bogged down? 1) Tea party conservatives in the house or 2) antiquated lifelong GOP members in the Senate (Orrin, McCain, etc...).

That said, the GOP under Reagan was socially moderate and fiscally conservative.

Today, it is fiscally insane and socially repressed. Thanks to the Tea Party along w/ Ralph Reed and his ilk.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

The LDS church has major and extensive farming interests in the U.S. However, not all farming benefits from subsidies.

At every turn, the Republican Party seems determined to kill itself off. The farming bill was bi-partisan, and expected to pass, until extremist Republicans were able to attach a "poison-pill" amendment, resulting in no Democratic votes. House Republicans then couldn't garner enough votes to pass the bill without the Democrats, even though they had a majority.

The Constitution and founding of this Country would never have come to pass if the current crop of Republicans were in power back then.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

When you keep holding out for the whole pie and keep walking away without even a slice, you should learn that ideological purity comes at a heavy price.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

to Craig Clark

It all depends on what kind of pie. I prefer Pecan.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Food stamp cuts, in this economy? With this many people out of work? We needed food stamps expanded, not cut.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Republican congress has zero interest in governing, only in making points to buttress their ideological purity.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"..."I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. If you got 75 or 80 percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and thats what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."...".

"...When Ronald Reagan wrote these words in his autobiography, "An American Life," he could have been speaking directly to many of the radical conservatives in todays Congress, who, sadly, still cant get used to it....".

Thank you DN, for going where most, in the Republican Party, refuse to go...

Ideological purity has trumped common sense.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Conservatives are always missing "Opportunities".

I think it's possibly partly because Conservatives try not to be driven by the Progressive Mantra... "Never let a good crisis go to waste"... driven.

They get into that mind set too... just not as much as Rahm Emanuel, Barack Obama, Al Sharpton, etc.

"Opportunistic" politicians bug me. So IF Conservatives MISS an Opportunity now and then because they stood on principle, or didn't want to do whatever it takes to not let the opportunity/crisis go to waste... That doesn't bother me too much.

I have no problem missing an "Opportunity". It all depends on WHY they missed that Opportunity. IF it was on principle... I'm OK. If it was just stupidity... hmmm... not so OK.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

All or Nothing
Black or White
My way or the highway;

Just another form of - Extremism.

Personally,
I'm fine with the GOP consistently getting NOTHING -
[although deep in my heart I know it's not healthy for society].

It's SO ironic that Conservative idolize Saint Ronald Reagan,
but they would throw him out, and publically crucify him if he were alive today.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Wonder why gop not willing to compromise...look no further than the oval office. Look no further than Harry Reid and friends. Libs have imposed the most socially and fiscally left approach to government seen in modern memory. It is so convenient to blame gop. Take off the blinders boys and girls and look left for a change.....oops, no way the left is going to budge from their far left agenda. No chance in a million years. These power-hungry lefties are staying way out in left field.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Pendergast" actually, it is the GOP that is on a course for self destruction. If they followed the advice of the Tea Party, they would have a better chance. You and the liberals out there fail to recognize that more people identify themselves as Conservative than Moderate or Liberal. The Tea Party is a conservative organization, while the GOP is a Progressive controlled group. The GOP leadership has many of the same ideas and goals as the Democrats, the only difference is how fast they implement their ideas.

To "LDS Liberal" ironic that you would crucify the doctrine of the Church that you claim membership in. The LDS church has taught that it is "All or Nothing" "Black or White" "My way or the highway." Are you saying that you oppose Church doctrine?

Why do you believe that it is best for man to be subjugated under socialism/liberalism/progressivism than to be free under conservativism/capitalism?

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

RedS:

Please explain why more people in Utah are unaffiliated than are Republican. The Utah GOP is already about as far right as any state Republican apparatus. Obviously the Tea Party is unappealing to a majority of Utahns, even more unappealing to a majority of Americans. The sooner we lock it back in the attic, where it belongs, the better.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:MikeRichards

"how many of those people should learn to work for their food"

Many Americans believe that the majority of SNAP (foodstamp) benefits go towards people who could be working. In fact, more than half of SNAP recipients are children or the elderly. For the remaining working-age individuals, many of them are currently employed. At least 40% of all SNAP beneficiaries live in a household with earnings

Recent studies show that 49% of all SNAP participants are children (age 18 or younger), with almost two-thirds of SNAP children living in single-parent households. In total, 76% of SNAP benefits go towards households with children, 16% go to households with disabled persons, and 9% go to households with senior citizens.

In 2010, the average SNAP client received a monthly benefit of $133.79, and the average household received $289.61 monthly.

Woody
Newbury Park, CA

I agree with the opinion about the farm bill. I wish you had left Reagan out of it. I think that we remember him for the Amnesty bill, the deaths of marines in Lebonon, deals with the Ayatolla, and huge budget deficits.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Kent C. DeForrest" simple. It is called the civil rights. We have right to associate with whoever we want. Apparently more people choose to be unaffiliated than want to Republicans.

As for the Tea Party, thanks to them, those that are registered Republicans have been showing up to the caucus meetings in huge numbers. Just look at the last election. There were a lot of people that showed up in an effort to get rid of Orrin or to support more conservative canidates.

Why do you hate the Republicans so much? Bush paved the way for Obama. Both had the same policies, the only difference was the magnitude.

I thought that the Democrats loved everybody, why would somebody who loves all want to lock their opposition in the closet?

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