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Published: Thursday, June 27 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Whatever you think of Karl Rove, he is a brilliant campaign strategist. They don't call him "The Architect" for nothing.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Tea. Party.

mcclark
Salt Lake City, UT

I think Romney lost because he was totally out of touch with the average citizen.

Bob K
porland, OR

ROVE HAS BEEN DISCREDITED AND IS GRASPING AT STRAWS.
Those errors were NOT why he lost.
First of all, convincing the public that Bain was good was probably impossible, and dwelling on that would have hurt Romney more.
Second, the main problem WAS that folks understood Romney. Even without the 47% remark, he and Ann (especially Ann) came across as autocratic and snobby. Being polite and generous when working for your church does not guarantee being able to understand all Americans and showing that you do.
In addition, Romney got a big boost in the first debate, against a tired President, when he came out swinging with a bunch of newly manufactured positions, but Obama later successfully showed that Romney LOOKED as if he would say anything to get elected.
Romney got hammered because people decided not to trust him -- PERIOD!

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

It is interesting to note that Rove's American Crossroads failed to get the vast majority of its candidates elected despite collecting hundreds of millions of dollars to do the job, yet Rove criticizes the Romney team. This is definitely an example of the pot calling the kettle black and Rove deflecting from his own problems. Also, don't forget that Rove was adamant on Fox News that Ohio was going to be taken Romney and had a meltdown when Fox called the state for Obama. Rove is undoubtedly a smart man, but his glory days are apparently over and he has shown the capacity to make serious errors and made critical tactical errors of letting emotions get in the way of facts.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

Perhaps people voted against Obama more than for Romney.

Perhaps we have an ignorant electorate who are feed baloney by both sides and buy their favorite brand.

We get what we elect, either through knowledge or ignorance. Experience is a brutal teacher but fools will have no other.

Justmythoughts
Provo, UT

The reason Romney lost was because he didn't offer people free stuff....he was honest.

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama won in 2008 because he promised many things that the people wanted changed in government, Closing Gitmo, ending the wars, transparency of govt., etc... If Romney had kept the focus on the things that Obama promised and failed to deliver, and promised to succeed in doing those things, maybe he would have had a better chance.

The problem for me with Romney (in addition to Bain), and this was most clear in the 3rd debate, the policy that Romney would adopt was too much like Obama's foreign policy. Obama has turned out to be a war monger and the impression I got of Romney was that he would be too. I could not vote for either.

riverofsun
St.George, Utah

You just gotta wonder if they will ever get over it.

rlsintx
Plano, TX

#1 reason Romney lost : Rove was calling the shots.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Romney did not lose. Oboma won by getting more voters out.

Obama and his band of strategists and operatives and organizers, and their legions of allies in the media convinced enough voters that Obama would give them free stuff, and got them to show up at the polls. (Some multiple times!)

One might argue that most of Obama's voters were what have become known as "low information voters" but their votes count just as much as someone who actually understands the candidates and issues, and the consequences of bad choices.

Romney's support was lukewarm, other than those who realized that another Obama term would be (and is turning out to be) an unmitigated disaster for our country.

Republicans will continue to lose if they run "Democrat lite" candidates, and "moderates." Real conservatives have shown they can win, and that is where the future of the Republican party must turn, otherwise it will continue its spiral into irrelevance.

However, the irresistible lure of "free stuff" for the low information voters saturated by a well organized campaign team may prove insurmountable.

Thus our great nation will finally collapse, destroyed from within.

ThornBirds
St.George, Utah

It's like time is standing still.
The same angry, "Obama ruined everything" comments.....
Month, after month, after....
Over, and over, and over, and......

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

The bottom line is that the Amercan voters made the right choice. Some people will always lack patriotism to support America and the people's president.

oldschool
Farmington, UT

Romney lost because he lost the urban areas. The chief reason he lost the urban areas is that he did not offer expanded governmental services to people who want more and more from the government. It's also hard to win when your opponent is successful at getting 100% of the vote in certain districts, particularly when more people vote than are even registered. In Ohio the Democrats got more Somalis to vote than have gained citizenship.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Consider the old line landed aristocracy of Great Britain. In time the British came to regard such as parasites, obtaining a return just by virtue of ownership. To some degree this is how Romney is viewed. Most of us understand earning a return from hard sweat, even when salaries are large. Consider that Obama was an attorney (a real job), Reagan was for most of his career an actor (a real job), Jimmy Carter was and is a peanut farmer (a real job). But what is Romney? He makes money simply by virtue of his owning and shielding capital. For Romney to get his message across he would have had to explain a completely different way of life than the one we understand. He couldn't and he lost because of it. I think Romney is probably a "nice guy." But he is an economic beast I can't trust. Apparently a lot of other people felt the same way.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

As much as I like to give Romney and Romney supporters a hard time,

I respect Romney for making the "architect" Karl Rove look like a complete fool election night.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Carl Rove has only won 20% of the campaigns he has managed.
People listen to him, why?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Is Rove out of touch? I have never heard of anyone else say they didn't vote for Romney because of the reasons he listed.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Rove had absolutely nothing to do with Romney's campaign.

Romney's loss says more about us than it does about him. It is a significant statement about how much we have degenerated as a country. When we re-elect someone who is a complete failure as a leader and as a president and clearly has no respect from other world leaders, it shows that we are on the road to self-destruction.

windsor
City, Ut

Rove has no idea.

There is just one of two reasons why Romney lost:

#1. Too many who would have voted for him over Obama could not be bothered with actually showing up to vote.(know a ton of these people)

#2. "choose you by the voice of this people...that ye may be judged according to the laws which have been given you by our fathers, which are correct...Now it is not common that the voice of the people desires anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall you observe and make it your law—to do your business by the voice of the people. And if the time comes that the voice of the people chooses iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction...."

I hope it is only lazy people in #1, and not #2.

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