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Published: Thursday, June 27 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

Now that is a Victory......Congrats Hobby Lobby!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Great job!

Anything that barack doesn't like is a good thing for America

Salt Lake City, UT

Guys, calm yourselves.

To make the business pay fines while waiting for a court to decide if they're liable is _not_ a "victory." It's simple judicial caution and fairness.

If a private for-profit organization decided that it wasn't going to offer health insurance coverage to its Black, or Mormon, blue-eyed employees because of its "moral beliefs," would you be OK with that? That's exactly what's going on here, and the question is fairly being asked, can private religious beliefs be used as a justification for treating people unfairly? Me personally, I believe strongly that that the answer is a resounding, "no." However, that's for the legal system, not me, to decide.

So Hobby Lobby, you're being given the benefit of the doubt. That's not remotely the same thing as a "victory."


As I read the article, it seems that they are saying that Hobby Lobby is using their religious beliefs in interfering in the medical care of their employees. what it sounds like to me is that they are just asking that then not be compelled to pay for their contraceptives. They haven't threatened to fire anyone who uses them, they just don't want to be forced to pay for them. what is the issue?

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

It will be a great day when this ultimately bankrupts Hobby Lobby.

Arizona Rocks
Phoenix, AZ

I am happy to hear that Hobby Lobby can challenge the health care law over birth control .. This is wonderful. God bless your business and employees and family and may Heaven's light and peace shine upon you !

Riverton, UT

So, for those who say that Hobby Lobby needs to pay for the medical care of "birth control", then if I believed that sacrificing a chicken would heal some illness I have, then why would they not have to pay for the chickens that I would need to sacrifice for my health.

What is the truth?
Sandy, UT

@WRK.. um if it was scientifically proven that sacrificing a chicken worked, then yes I would be all for it.

Honestly, there are religions out there that don't believe in blood transfusions, surgeries, faith healing for diabetes (you remember those stories about how children have died because of this belief??). We want those people telling their employees what medical care they can and cannot have? Let common sense rule, thank you very much.

Poplar Grove, UT

If the courts allowed hobby lobby not to cover contraceptives how long until there is a religion that doesn't allow any medical treatment at all?

Cedar Hills, UT

This could be simple, if the federal government would get out of the way. I work for you, you pay me, I buy whatever I want.

No more: I work for you, you buy stuff for me, then pay me less because you bought me stuff already. The stuff you bought was against your religion to buy. We argue.


Should your boss be able to determine which prescription medications you take at home? Should your boss have a say in how many children you have?

The principle of religious liberty protects your right to make moral decisions for yourself, not others. Obviously, a law that required Hobby Lobby’s owners to use birth control would be a gross violation of their religious liberty. But the mandate doesn’t do that. It merely requires that the 22,000 employees of Hobby Lobby be given the right, if they choose, to access birth control through a health-insurance plan.

Fundamentalist Christians might refuse to pay for a public school system that teaches evolution. Conservative Muslims might refuse to pay for public museums that may contain art that offends them. More to the point, a boss who believes in spiritual healing might refuse to provide medical coverage at all, arguing that only God, not a doctor, can make you well.

American Fork, UT

I hope a group of state governors join forces and try and stop the inclusion of birth control in the health care system. It is simply wrong to force anyone to pay the cost. Last time I checked Walmart has a family planning section that for cash will solve the problem. Wait, that's the issue. Why should we plan and be responsible when big brother will hand out all we need. This has nothing to do with religion. The current administration in it's blind desire to give has again found a way to take money from hard working people and give it to the "I'm entitled" generation. If you are going to procreate then maybe it is time to start acting the part of parent and adult.

Hyrum, UT

@Stalwart Sentinel:

So you think it would be a wonderful thing if this issue were to bankrupt this major, national sized company and put many thousands of people out of work... all because the owners don't share your political ideologies.

Apparently, you want others to try to understand your point of view and be accepting of it, but then give none of that back in return. Wow! How narrow minded can an opponent get? I think a new level has just been reached!

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

The Church of Corporate America doesn't believe in anything but faith healing if it adds to their bottom line.
Those who believe that contraceptives are prescribed only for birth control, must have had sex ed in a red state.

Salt Lake City, UT

Unplanned pregnancies are the leading cause of someone considering abortion. This healthcare mandate helps prevent abortions. A similar provision in Belgium is a large part of why they're #1 in the world for lowest abortion rates.

Chandler, AZ

Based on your analogy I think we need to review our current practices for teaching critical thinking skills in our public schools. What we're talking about is being forced to pay for someone to use birth control when you consider it morally wrong. What you're talking about is discrimination. There's not much similarity between the two.

This may seem like no big deal to many people. It's just birth control after all. What if instead we were talking about forcing companies to cover abortions? No one should be forced to pay for their employees to do something they consider morally wrong.

Santaquin, UT

I absolutely agree that we ought to let common sense rule. The first step would be to repeal the law requiring employers to provide health insurance to their employees. There is no right to access birth control through a health insurance plan and there is certainly no right to demand that your employer pay for it. If an employer claims that spiritual or faith healing is the only way and refuses to pay for an employee health plan than so be it. People can choose whether or not they want to work for an employer and one of the criteria would be what kind of health insurance, if any, was offered. That is called freedom and it ought to work for the employer as well as the employee. Equally absurd is the assertion that Hobby Lobby's argument is similar to denying health insurance to blacks or Mormons or any other such group. Hobby Lobby doesn't want to pay for contraception for any of its employees, not just certain groups of their employees. If a person wants health insurance that pays for contraception, then they shouldn't work for Hobby Lobby.

Hyrum, UT

@ Happy Valley HERETIC:

If a person or company (owners) have religious reasons for not believing in contraceptives (and yes, the vast majority of contraceptives are used for birth control), why is it so difficult for you or anyone else to respect their right to believe as they see fit? Isn't that part of what religious freedom stands for in our country?

When democrats tout how wonderful diversity is, does that mean only as long those diversities are in total agreement with your political and religious ideologies?

With all your many online comments, isn't that basically what you keep asking for and trying to promote... for others to try to understand your liberal viewpoints and allow you the right to believe as you see fit? Is it asking too much of you to give the same consideration in return?

Pa. Reader
Harrisburg, PA

Anti contraception = pro abortion.
Not an opinion, just a cold fact.

Bountiful, UT

Think about this; my wife can't use birth control pills for health reasons and I'm allergic to latex, so I have to go to the store and get the really expensive condoms to have any type of birth control. Shouldn't my employer have to pay for that? And yes I think it would be insane to try to foist that expense on the taxpayer or my employer, but if you think logically you will come to the conclusion that a case just like this will end up in courts eventually if the law continues as it is. So does the government use this as an opportunity to go in and "regulate" condom manufacturers? And if the owner of the company I work for is opposed to condom use for religious reasons, shouldn't he be able to oppose it?

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