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Published: Wednesday, June 26 2013 11:17 a.m. MDT

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Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Naval Vet:
LOL, whatever makes you feel better about your PACy WACers, and keeps your dreams alive. Who am I to stand in your way.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

Ducky,

USC still has to abide by the PAC 12 rules, but one of those rules is that they do not have to schedule non conference games in Sept like the Utes do. So I guess you are wrong about that, as well as many other things in your incessant ranting in these threads.

You complain about 2 for 1 games, and now that it is against USC, it is like the 2nd coming of Y football, and that this is the best thing ever for the Y program.

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah

navelvet

The simple truth is USC is the big dog in the conference and the PAC will bend over backwards to keep the Trojans happy. The PACy WACers, on the other hand, do exactly what the PAC tells them to do.

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

Hey Naval Vet,

You call BYU little brothers. Back with national awards, national championship, college hall of fameers, conference championships, final poll rankings.

BYU is not the little brother of PAC-thetic Ute team that has no national championships, only 2 conference championships in the WAC (which you defame) of which the PAC-thetics was a member for 37 years, little and no national awards (if any, name them), a fanbase more than twice a small as that of BYU's, and finally no nationally recognized football dynasty.

I'll start you off, The Utes have been ranked 5 times in the final polls, BYU 17.

You can take it from there, but no meaningless number minutia, comparisons or spin, just the facts.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

MacNasty

"You call BYU little brothers. You can take it from there, but no meaningless number minutia, comparisons or spin, just the facts."

OK, you asked for it--

3 straight, 4 of 5, 8 of 11 and an utterly insurmountable overall record, 56-34-4!

Face it, Mighty Big Brother UTAH straight owns little brother 2-Star byu, it's not even remotely debatable!

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Naval:
"playing the Y doesn't help our program. It helps YOURS".

Please give me one example of how playing Utah helps BYU. U certainly don't help our SOS, seeing as how your BCS rankings were closer to Middle Tenn St than ND, Wisconsin, Texas, etc. It doesn't help in terms of recruiting, that is usually a decision of personal preference and playing all over the country vs playing in the PAC12 (wouldn't make a difference whether the "formal" rivalry game was played or not). Please tell us how playing "mighty" Utah *snicker* helps BYU in any way. The only real benefit in this rivalry is for the fans that want it to continue. Here's one fan who would love to see it continue because it's fun to talk smack back and forth, but in terms of actual football, exposure, and national relevance, playing Utah does absolutely NOTHING for BYU.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Cougsndawgs

Please give me one example of how playing Utah helps BYU.

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Simple, it gives you a guaranteed annual PAC-12 game. Do you already have a guaranteed annual BCS game with anyone else? Does Boise State?

Considering that as of today BYU is back to it's old tricks of playing cream-puffs:

2014: 9 MWC/CUSA/AAC games and 2 BCS games
2015: 6 MWC/CUSA/ACC games and 2 BCS games

Sure it's a step up from playing teams like New Mexico and Wyoming and you get to see all the cool different places each year. But it's still not a "real" schedule.

So we will help you with the scheduling, just like how you treat Utah State, but on our terms. That's why well play you after we're done playing Michigan in 2016.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah
navelvet

The simple truth is USC is the big dog in the conference and the PAC will bend over backwards to keep the Trojans happy. The PACy WACers, on the other hand, do exactly what the PAC tells them to do.

______

ESPN has the Cougars on a leash. I doubt BYU is telling them what to do.
In addition, BYU has to bend over backwards to get contracts on a 4-2, 2-1 deal!

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

AZUTE1

Apparently you misread my post. I asked for conference championships, national awards, hall of famers, NC, nationally recognized football dynasty. You provided nothing except the same old worn out rhetoric.

You provided not a single answer to the questions. So you did not let me have it AT ALL

If all you got is that you beat BYU 3 of 4 times than so be it that's all you have little brother. Remember what comes around goes around. The end of that unfortunate cycle comes this year.

Clark W. Griswold
Sandy, Utah

@ MacNasty

"Apparently you misread my post. I asked for conference championships, national awards, hall of famers, NC, nationally recognized football dynasty. You provided nothing except the same old worn out rhetoric"

Nationally recognized football dynasty? Are you serious? BYU does not have a football dynasty! They had one fluke of a season in 84' which most every school nationwide was in an uproar about. Although BYU does have a WAC dynasty in the 70's and 80's but not a national football dynasty.

As far as conference championships go. Apparently you need to do a little research!

Utah 24
BYU 23

Football was played before 1972!

If you call 3 of 4, 8 of 11, 56-34-4 head to head as same old worn out rhetoric. Then what do you call NC's, National Awards, Hall of Famers (all of which happened decades ago)? That's old worn out rhetoric that Cougie fans love to use since they can't beat their big brother anymore.

"Remember what comes around goes around. The end of that unfortunate cycle comes this year"

You Cougie fans say that every year. All talk and no walk!

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Uteology:
That's it? U offer us a game against a weak BCS opponent that had a losing record and finished in the BCS rankings in a similar position to many of those MWC/CUSA/AAC teams? We may as well schedule more ACC teams like Virginia or GT whre we can recruit to new areas in the country. Sorry, SOS doesn't include your PAC12 logo, it only rates how teams actually perform. You'll have to do better than that. At least BYU gives U a team with a winning record on your schedule, which is more than U offer us...who needs who?

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

Clark W. Griswold @ 9:52 am

"Although BYU does have a WAC dynasty in the 70's and 80's but not a national football dynasty."

Athlon Sports disagrees with you Clarkie old boy. Athlon Sports May 13, 2013 "College Football's Top 25 Greatest Dynasties of the AP Era."

Read it and weep.

Thank you for providing conference championships over the last hundred years.

Fill in the rest please:

National Championship:

National award winners (like the Heisman, Outland, etc)
Hall-of-famers (college and if you wish NFL):
Size of fanbase (please include reference):

Waiting for you to fill in the blanks

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

Clark W. Griswold

I forgot:

Number of final rankings in the national polls:

BTW: "you said As far as conference championships go. Apparently you need to do a little research!

Utah 24
BYU 23

Football was played before 1972!"

Then you said, "Then what do you call NC's, National Awards, Hall of Famers (all of which happened decades ago)?"

You want it both ways don't you. You had to go back 100 years or so to dig up conference championships, but then you minimize BYU's accomplishments of the past! Sounds hypocritical to me, but have it your way; we will use past accomplishments.
Please fill in the blanks and let's see how the two stack up

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT
Uteology:
That's it? U offer us a game against a weak BCS opponent that had a losing record and finished in the BCS rankings in a similar position to many of those MWC/CUSA/AAC teams? We may as well schedule more ACC teams like Virginia or GT whre we can recruit to new areas in the country. Sorry, SOS doesn't include your PAC12 logo, it only rates how teams actually perform. You'll have to do better than that. At least BYU gives U a team with a winning record on your schedule, which is more than U offer us...who needs who?

_______

Really? LOL!!! That winning record you speak of is built of green jello, funeral potatoes, and WAC teams. It lacks wins against ranked teams.
Utah offers BYU another chance to blame the refs!

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Clark W. Griswold

"As far as conference championships go. Apparently you need to do a little research!

Utah 24
BYU 23

Football was played before 1972!"

This is how you want to define the Utah football legacy? 19 conference championships prior to 1965. And of the six you've had since 1965 two of those were shared with other teams. Legacy comes from consistency, and Utah has been consistently mediocre to bad with a few exceptional seasons. By the way, BYU won all of their 23 conference championships post-1965.

"Nationally recognized football dynasty? Are you serious? BYU does not have a football dynasty! They had one fluke of a season in 84' which most every school nationwide was in an uproar about."

I'd love to hear more about this uproar you talk about. The truth is BYU was a CONSENSUS national champion in 1984 (something only 2/3 of the national champs since that time can claim) because of their legacy. Being ranked #20/16 (1977), #13/12 (1979, #12/11 (1980), #13/11 (1981), #7/7 (1983), #1/1 (1984), #16/17 (1985) is not a fluke, it's a dynasty.

Ufan
Salt Lake City, UT

WACpaddled

"ESPN has the Cougars on a leash."

LOL!

ESPN brings proposed games to BYU and BYU is free to accept or reject any game proposed.

The only thing ESPN is free to decide independent of BYU's input, is which four BYU home games ESPN wants to televise, and which network on which to televise them.

BYU's 4-2 deals with Notre Dame dwarfs that one-and-done deal the Utes managed with the Fighting Irish.

Michigan is the first and ONLY elite OOC team ever to agree to visit Salt Lake City, and with that dinky stadium U have on the hill, it's likely the Wolverines will be the last.

BYU, on the other hand, has had teams like Miami, Florida State, Penn State, USC, and Texas visiting Provo for decades.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Ufan said:

"LOL!

ESPN brings proposed games to BYU and BYU is free to accept or reject any game proposed.

The only thing ESPN is free to decide independent of BYU's input, is which four BYU home games ESPN wants to televise, and which network on which to televise them.

BYU's 4-2 deals with Notre Dame dwarfs that one-and-done deal the Utes managed with the Fighting Irish.

Michigan is the first and ONLY elite OOC team ever to agree to visit Salt Lake City, and with that dinky stadium U have on the hill, it's likely the Wolverines will be the last.

BYU, on the other hand, has had teams like Miami, Florida State, Penn State, USC, and Texas visiting Provo for decades."

LOL! Thanks for admitting BYU can't do anything by itself, needs ESPN to hold its hand!
Dinky stadium? Won't stop USC, Oregon, and the rest of the PAC 12 from playing there. Michigan won't be the last powerhouse OOC to play there either.

BYU Joe
MISSION VIEJO, CA

Anyone notice that we are all talking about a game that will not take place for 10 years. Seriously, 10 years. that means the future QB for BYU is probably around 12 right now.

Utah complainers - can you not just say good for you and be done with it. You are whining about our 2-1 years from now. Why don't you wonder over to the Colorado papers and complain about your new rivals the Buffs. After all you claim you don't care about BYU anymore - so be gone or be men and just say good for you and we will see you in September.

I for one continually congratulate the Utes for being in the Pac 12. Why is is so hard for you to say to us - good for you and good luck?

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

WACpadder:
"Really? LOL!!! That winning record you speak of is built of green jello, funeral potatoes, and WAC teams. It lacks wins against ranked teams.
Utah offers BYU another chance to blame the refs!"

Ok, first of all that was pretty funny I even liked it because it made me chuckle. However, humor aside, Utah hasn't been beating ranked teams either and no conference team with a winning record. So still no good reason to schedule the utes, let alone any delusions of a 2-1. And I don't think BYU fans own the market on "blaming the refs"...I've seen plenty of ute fans make that excuse...still a funny post lol.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Ufan

"Michigan is the first and ONLY elite OOC team ever to agree to visit Salt Lake City, and with that dinky stadium U have on the hill, it's likely the Wolverines will be the last."

Utah has already had Oregon, UCLA, and Texas A&M. There will be more great teams visiting RES; both in and out of conf. play.

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