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Published: Wednesday, June 26 2013 11:17 a.m. MDT

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WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Interesting. USC has extended its series with Notre Dame. Especially since it has a deal with the ACC.
What about BYU? Nope.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

Uteology

LOL at your weak spin.

BYU wanting to continue the rivalry doesn't in any way, shape or form support your frantic and emotional claim that BYU is "begging" Utah for anything.

The only reason Chris Hill didn't schedule BYU in 2014 and 2015 was because he'd didn't think the Utes could handle playing Michigan and BYU in the same seasons. The Utes had a once in a lifetime opportunity to schedule an elite OOC opponent to play in RES, so he made a tough decision to suspend the rivalry for a couple of years.

Despite the delusional wishes of the BYU haters, BYU and Utah will continue the rivalry as a home-and-home series beyond 2016.

If the Utes weren't such PACy-WACers, they'd petition the PAC 12 to allow them to play the BYU-Utah game to November, when rivalries should be played, and play Colorado in September as a conference ice breaker.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

WACpaddled

"USC is forced to play Utah?"

Absolutely!

Why else would an elite program like USC ever consider playing in RES?

SportsFan
Orem, UT

WACpaddled

With BYU's help, USC was able to extend its series with Notre Dame.

With Utah's help, USC was able to add one more automatic win to its conference record.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Cougsndawgs

"Lets just see what happens" when USC plays to the level they're capable of against Utah.

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Typical smack coming from BYU fans now a days, can't beat us so turn to the accomplishments of TCU, then Boise, and now USC/PAC-12.

If USC or any other PAC-12 team goes into RES and puts a 54-10 thrashing on us then feel free to talk smack of "gimme games".

Until then, like your coach, worry about how your team will "Fix the 'Utah' Problem".

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Uteology:
"Typical smack coming from BYU fans now a days, can't beat us so turn to the accomplishments of TCU, then Boise, and now USC/PAC-12".

Look, I know ute fans hate history lessons but BYU has beat U plenty of times, and still owns the records for margin of victory and points scored, as well as a 26-14 record over the last 40 years. That hardly supports your "can't beat us statement"..,we only beat U 3/4 times from 2006-2009 but who's counting right? Lol
As far as USC is concerned you're the one that asked the questios and I gave you answers. It's not my problem the truth hurts you. You tried to spin USCs easy win over U last year as some 4th qtr come from behind victory. I'm here to tell you that USC will continue to own Utah in years to come, and it wouldn't surprise me if at the end of a decade in the PAC12 Utah is 0-10 or at best 1-9 against the Trojans. That constitutes a gimme game. Don't take my word for it, watch it unfold before your eyes the next 8 yrs.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@SportsFan: "The Utes had a once in a lifetime opportunity to schedule an elite OOC opponent to play in RES, so he made a tough decision to suspend the rivalry for a couple of years."

Wrong! The series with Texas was canceled at Urban Meyer's urging. Otherwise Texas would have played at RES in 2008.

The fact is simple, BYU begged/pleated/requested/asked "pretty please" Utah will you continue with the rivalry. Utah said no.

If BYU was such a "legacy, top 25 program" they wouldn't be begging/pleating/requesting/asking "pretty please" USC/Notre Dame/Texas will you play us 2-for-1.

Koloss
Hampton, VA

Y Grad/Y Dad,

Look I know it's hard to understand but USC was part of the conference that asked Utah to join them. All the universities agreed on this. Oh yeah and in the last two years Utah has a .450 record against BCS teams to BYUs .400 record. USC is using the same logic as an Alabama team playing Western Kentucky the week before the Iron Bowl. It's practically a bye for them! BYU hasn't done anything nationally relevant in the last 15 years besides being the last short hurdle Utah has used to propel themselves to an undefeated season and a BCS bowl. You're not using logic you're using wishful thinking.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

SportsFan:

"If the Utes weren't such PACy-WACers, they'd petition the PAC 12 to allow them to play the BYU-Utah game to November..."

Why would we petition the Pac-12 to allow us to play the Indy-WACers in November when this game really isn't all that important to us? Now granted, it's EXTREMELY important to YOU, but Utah is just not in the business of petitioning the Pac-12 on YOUR behalf.

bribri86
Phoenix, AZ

Everyone on here saying how "Utah get's USC 1 for 1 every year which is better than BYU" is like Wyoming boasting how they got BYU, Utah, and now Boise St. 1 for 1 every year. It's not like it's because of anything Utah did. They are in the same conference AND division. What else did you expect? It's like Kentucky boasting that they get Florida 1 for 1 every year. Doesn't chance the fact that Wyoming, Kentucky, and Utah are terrible at football.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Cougsndawgs:

"Look, I know ute fans hate history lessons but BYU has beat U plenty of times, but BYU has beat U plenty of times,...a 26-14 record over the last 40 years....we only beat U 3/4 times from 2006-2009 but who's counting right? Lol"

You also beat the U only 3 of 11 times from 2002-2012. LOL!

As for that 26-14 record vs. your big brother over the past 40-yrs...

Look, I know cougar fans hate History AND Math, but...

(1) It's actually 25-15
(2) 72% of those wins were all won over 20-yrs ago.
(3) Back when the Indy-WACer were were winning all those games back in the 70s and 80s, they weren't jumping enmasse on OTHER teams' bandwagons because they'd also beaten the Utes. Ergo, Uteology was correct. You all ARE turning to the accomplishments of TCU, BSU, and USC due to your own program's ineptitude in the former rivalry.

And YOU'RE accusing Uteology of "spin"?

Typical hypocritical coug.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Uteology:

"The series with Texas was canceled at Urban Meyer's urging."

That is correct, only the REASON Meyer urged the series to be cancelled was because TCU was scheduled to join the league that year. This left us with only 3 O.O.C. games for 2005. The 2005 game was scheduled to be at Texas, but we already had 5 away games: 4 MWC games, plus the previously scheduled return game to No. Carolina. Texas' future schedules could not immediately accomodate Utah's desire to push it back, so the series was scrapped.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

bribri86:

"It's like Kentucky boasting that they get Florida 1 for 1 every year."

Sure, as conference members, Utah has built-in Home-&-Home games every year, but Utah is ALSO getting a 1-for-1 with Michigan too. What's YOUR arrangement with the Wolverines?

Answer: A one-off. How midmajorey.

I absolutely LOVE how you Indy-WACers are so desperate for validation that you accept ANY arrangement as though it's the best possible advantageous scenerio that could be made. It's like in that movie "Pee Wee's Big Adventure", when he crashed his bike on the curb, and wiped out on the lawn, he popped up and said, "I MEANT to do that!"

Please keep up with your self-satisfied cognitive dissonance, so Holmoe can continue to feel free and enabled to continue securing those "Pee Wee" one-offs and 2-for-1s for your program.

WON84
PLANO, TX

"Naval Vet

Philadelphia, PA

SportsFan:

"If the Utes weren't such PACy-WACers, they'd petition the PAC 12 to allow them to play the BYU-Utah game to November..."

Why would we petition the Pac-12 to allow us to play the Indy-WACers in November when this game really isn't all that important to us? Now granted, it's EXTREMELY important to YOU, but Utah is just not in the business of petitioning the Pac-12 on YOUR behalf."

I guess there was some confusion because some of you petition BYU fans so much...

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Naval Vet:
I stand corrected, it was 25-15, I was looking at 1972 til now.
13 of the last 16 games have been decided by less than a TD between these programs. I know ute fans want to pretend they've dominated, but it's just not the case. BYU has beaten U plenty, live with it and accept it. Stop trying to pretend that this isn't a competitive rivalry when it is (3-4 in last 7). As for jumping on bandwagons, again I love how you think you know what Im thinking. The reason I was explaining to uteology the dominance that USC will have over Utah is to help him and other ute trolls recognize that USC is an elite program, unlike the PACy WACers, so that's why they get 2-1s where Utah never will. Utah has to earn that kind of respect and to this point they haven't...they're no better than Wazzu or GT who have home and homes with BYU. It had nothing to do with "bandwagoning" as you would like to suggest. And yes, lets not pretend that both sides don't spin for their argument, like you're innocent of that...typical ute hypocrisy.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@papa smurf

"The game is also in November back at USC because they will possibly lose the Notre Dame game that they have in that slot. Has nothing to do with the Pac 12 rule of non conference games played in Sept."

Except that USC and Notre Dame also announced yesterday that they have agreed to extend their series through 2023 as well which coincides with the USC/BYU and Notre Dame/BYU series so I guess you're wrong about that. It is pretty obvious that not all pac12 teams are required to abide by the same rules and utah is one of the ones that is told what they can, and cannot, do, while USC does whatever it wants regardless of what Scott thinks he can mandate.

Just the way it is.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@naval lint

Your attempt to distort the reason why the BYU/utah series is taking a 2 year break are pretty hilarious. The truth is that because of how utah's pac12 conference schedule works next two years, where they have a 5 game conference home schedule one year and a four game conference home schedule the other year, it was going to make it so that BYU would have 2 home games against utah in a row, or else BYU was going to have to allow utah to have 2 home games against them in a row, and neither school was willing to do that. Add that to some other factors and it simply wasn't going to work.

I think BYU has been a bit disengenous in their explanations of this when they claim it was simply utah didn't want to play the game, that is not true, it is that neither wanted to give the other 2 years in a row at home so they could not work out a deal for those two years.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Duckhunter:

"Your attempt to distort the reason why the BYU/utah series is taking a 2 year break are pretty hilarious."

On the contrary, it's YOU'RE attempt to distort the reason that's hilarious. If the the series continued into 2014, then that game would have been a Home game for Utah. Prior to scheduling Fresno St, Utah's Home schedule included Mich, Ariz, USC, Ore, and Wash. St. So it isn't as if we didn't have room for our little brother until AFTER we scheduled the Bulldogs.

Meanwhile, the Indy-WACers have 7 home games scheduled for 2014, so it isn't as if there wasn't room on YOUR schedule for an Away game with us! Furthermore, your game AT UConn wasn't even scheduled until AFTER we ditched you in favor of FSU.

The decision to discontinue the series was UTAH's! It wasn't a "mutual" decision. Your side desperately wanted to play the game. It just means a lot more to you than it does for us.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Tom Holmoe during media day: "Both myself and Chris Hill want to get this done. We realize the fans are going to fight in the streets about who did what, but that's not our concern. He and I have talked about some of the scheduling difficulties Utah is experiencing with their PAC12 membership, and we certainly understand that. In the end we will be able to work it out so there need be no concern on the fans' part in relation to the rivalry".

Thank goodness Holmoe and Hill are more level-headed than their respective fanbases. Holmoe also said: "What many fans don't realize is that behind the scenes we have a very good relationship with Utah and Chris Hill, and both athletic departments want to be supportive in our respective programs' goals and values".

In essence, while the rest of us want to argue, BYU understands Utah's unique position presently and is willing to be patient with them while they work it out. Utah didn't "dump" BYU and disrespect them in any way, or vice versa. Hill already stated playing both Michigan AND BYU was too much in OOC and I respect that assessment.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Cougsndawgs:

Quoting Holmoe -- the "spurned" Athletic Director in the "continuation" of the series -- doesn't change the fact that...

...you were dumped.

You wanted the game; we didn't. You were dumped. For Fresno St. For a 2-for-1, we would have dropped Fresno St, but without one, we'll just grab ourselves another game in the recruiting rich state of California. We're already winning the majority of the battles for the coveted instate kids, so playing the Y doesn't help our program. It helps YOURS, but helping little brother really isn't our among our primary concerns.

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