It's amnesty. The 1,000 fine goes into a trust fund to help them get a
green card. They come for jobs, and the bill allows them to stay and work.
That's amnesty. You allow them to steal our identities, social security
numbers, and commit perjury on i-9 forms, all felonies. That's amnesty.You give business amnesty for multiple felonies, you give churches,
ethnic organizations and chambers of commerce amnesty for encouraging them
here.The Hoeven,-Corker amendment was undergoing changes right up to
the vote. The Senate voted without reading it.ICE officers are against it,
it eliminates interior enforcement, The border and fence provisions are all at
the discretion of Homeland security. They don't have to build one foot of
fence. Stop lying to the people about enforcement, it's not coming.In addition the bill stops visa enforcement, and gives green cards to
anyone who overstays their visa. (as long as they work for ten years). This is
amnesty for the future.
With H-1B, w visas, and merit visas, we are going to see 1.6 million more visa
workers each year, added to the 3.2 visa workers we already bring in (2011).The bill is amnesty, it hurts the 20 million Americans looking for full
time work. With 33 million in 10 years, and 46 in 20 years, you destroy our
social security by flooding it with middle age low income workers. It's not
about compassion or families, if it were, business would be trying to keep
American families together, and criminals out of jail.
This is about cheap labor, cunningly disguised as concern for families. The authors' arguments sidestep the fact that deportees are free to
take their children with them -- thus keeping the families together. They are
not "ripped" away from them. They refuse to admit that
where there are complications, this is due to willful illegality on the part of
one or more parties.They sidestep the fact that illegal aliens COULD
choose to return to their home countries, live lives of honor there, and set
good examples for their children. They falsely shift culpability,
responsibility, and guilt for the consequences of such willful lawbreaking, from
lawbreaker to society.They rationalize that rewarding lawbreakers
with the very objective of their illegality -- namely, U.S. residency -- is not
Amnesty, when of course it is. They falsely imply that America has
a shortage of workers. The truth is that greedy business interests do not want
to pay Americans a fair wage. They want to flood the nation with cheap, foreign
labor so that they don't have to. If people are worried about
helping the competition, they could push for fewer student visas and instead
give the slots and scholarships to Americans.
Really. What is so bad about amnesty?Far worse in my estimation
than allegedly greedy businesspeople seeking cheaper labor are gratuitously
meanspirited and vindictive citizens talking nonsense and spreading lies against
long overdue and much needed immigration reform.Why the fear?
Rather than some maudlin story about families getting "ripped apart",
perhaps Mr Hale could try to make an honest case based on economics, the rule of
law, or even basic fairness. Do we really have a shortage of
workers in this country? Will adding millions of mostly unskilled laborers and
their families will somehow remedy high unemployment and a stagnant economy? And
with Obamacare and growing entitlement spending, is it fair to taxpayers to have
to cover the education, medical care and all the other social service costs that
amnesty will entail? In short, unless you hang out with Mr. Hale at
the Riverside Country Club, you should call your congressman today to voice your
opposition to this bill.Mr Hale: Instead of trying to pull the wool
over our eyes with sob stories, why don't you just be honest about what
you're really after? Low-cost labor, subsidized by the taxpayer.
Want to stay as a family?GreatWe want your family to
stay together.Go be a legal family in your homeland, like everyone
else doesPretty simple concept really.
These laws are a direct assault on American Citizens. We are being attacked.
Lost jobs, stolen wages, unfair taxation, ruined neighborhoods, over crowed
schools, higher crime rates and a drugged out nation. Yes this is an assault on
Dozens of studies have shown we graduate more stem workers each year than new
jobs. Science magazine reports "Those who advocate increasing the supply of
STEM talent should cool their ardor a little bit," says one of its authors,
B. Lindsay Lowell, a demographer at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.
The supply has actually remained steady over the past 30 years, the researchers
conclude from an analysis of six longitudinal surveys conducted by the U.S.
government from 1972 to 2005". The H-1B visa is open to other
fields also. Since their use is public knowledge, a look at their use in Orem
might be wise. a director of international marketing at 53k, a project manager
at 30k, eight law clerks at 27k. There are not high IQ people, but average
workers taking these American jobs. You can't tell me they can't find
qualified people in this fields.
Another way to cripple America.
I agree with those who argue that the bill is amnesty pure and simple. These
people are economic refugees from corrupt and violent societies and many, not
all, have brought that corruption and violence mentality with them as a group.
They don't want to become American citizens, they are looking for a port in
a political storm. Families being divided is a lie. When an illegal
immigrant is deported, his or her whole family can return to their home country.
Just let everybody in, problem solved.