Letter: Media failure


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  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 18, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    No, MM, my thinking cap is working just fine. Much better than any tinfoil hat could possibly do. Y'might try one sometime.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 18, 2013 6:26 a.m.

    "You are so politically biased and your ideology is so thick you can't even see your emperor has no clothes."

    Was this said while looking into the mirror? I mean really. Which of these "scandals" has been confirmed, by facts, with actual indictments? Unless honesty is completely lost here, the answer would be zero. There is yet lots to learn about all of the above incidents. But lets be real here, Libya has now been probed, probed again, and again, with still no sign of actual criminal actions - other than vague could have, would have type statements that still don't prove the end result would have been anything different.

    We seem to completely forget about another women named Rice, who stood before the world and claimed we had proof positive of weapons of mass destruction programs - and that we would soon show the world what they were - to ultimately fail in that quest. How quickly partisan minds forget acts like these... or secret meetings with Cheney in the White House, that he refused to testify to congress about, under White House immunity.

    The inconsistency by both prides is hard to swallow.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2013 11:59 p.m.

    Hannity has instructed him well. Who instructs Hannity?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 17, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    I was watching Meet the Press yesterday, and they had a reporter from the Washington Post (I think). They were discussing the leaks and if the leaker was a hero or a criminal, and the reporter was defending the leaker as a hero. But I kept wanting the moderator to ask the reporter why the leaker had to release his info to a foreign news paper (and not any American news paper)?

    The reporter said the leaker shopped around for a news outlet that would take the story. I'm wondering how long he shopped it around to American papers that just passed on it (because it didn't fit their agenda).

    It used to be that American papers would kill for a story like this, and a reporter wanted to be the first to break a controversial story about the President. But not anymore... they just seem like reporter zombies that just report what the President and his press sec give them to report.

    America has changed a lot in my lifetime. Not all for the better.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    "Not one of the crazed, flaming leftists even approaches a specific answer to the questions posed in the letter. "

    There was one sentence that ended with a question mark in the letter. I commented on it. Not my fault you have selective reading.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    MMan forgets the biggest "freebie" of all was given away by the guy he voted for...the prescription drug plan. It was never paid for (the GOP owned both Houses and the White House at the time) and they never raised a concern about paying for the freebie with money from China like the do daily today.

    PS. W's approval rating was in the 20% when he left office even with the giveaway, but then the measuring stick is always different for people of your political persuasion.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 11:09 p.m.


    What is obvious is that when Obama groupies can no longer defend the obviously indefensible, they seek to obfuscate by referencing their own talking points regarding "AM radio talking points"

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 10:32 p.m.

    As for Fast and Furious the obvious lesson we should've picked up on (if you actually followed the reports on what happened) is that our anti-trafficking laws against straw purchasers are woefully inept. An attempt to strengthen them was filibustered in the senate (58 votes for it, but 40+ opposed it).

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 10:28 p.m.

    Susan Rice's biggest failure was reporting information she was given that turned out to be incorrect.

    So... do you hold that standard to all the Congressmen/women and Senators who go on Sunday talk shows and say something that's wrong? What about Colin Powell or Condaleeza Rice when they made statements that turned out to be wrong (and got us into a war...)? Seriously if this is the worst thing Susan Rice has ever done in several years at her job then she's extremely qualified.

  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    June 16, 2013 6:55 p.m.

    By now most recognize that by and large those whose political allegiance lies to the far-right hate President Obama. However, that is no excuse for their ardent slander at every turn real or imagined of him whom the majority overwhelmingly chose to govern this nation.

    And then to so vehemently deny this breach of honesty and any of the other obvious excesses of today's extreme Republican right is further evidence of an overreach of ideology at the expense of pragmatism, reason, expertise, fairness and candor that most consider essential to good government.

    Unfortunately, even as a minority in Congress the far right in its uncompromising dedication to ideological purity is able to obstruct any and all efforts at normal governance by a more moderate majority.

    Insisting on an impossibly sealed southern border as an absolute prerequisite for dealing with the separate issue of millions of illegal immigrants already here is a prime example of how ideology can suffice without reason in justifying the pursuit of self-interest.

    We aid and abet the folly of right-wing extremism in Utah and in America at our own considerable peril.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 16, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    Talk about Conspiracy Theories run amok!

    And then we have facts and the twisted denials of reality:

    Using the letter writers own words - with substitutes;

    "Is it not obvious that President Bush's invasion of Iraq killing thousands costing $TRLLIONS of dollars over imaginary mythical non existent [i.e., lied about] WMDs proves that the voters made a terrible mistake in re-electing him?"

    It's been 6 years, and I'm still waiting for Conservative OR Republicans [which ever you are] to admit you where all bamboozled and sold a snow job with the last administration -- NSA spying and all.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    June 16, 2013 5:50 p.m.

    I don't doubt Obama's poll numbers will stay above GWB's. That's easy to explain, nearly 50% of Americans are getting freebies from the government without paying any federal income taxes therefore 50% of voters have their hands in the treasury for their "share" of the redistribution! $17 trillion debt and growing by $1.5 billion every day can not continue forever! But who cares about the future?

    @ One old man. Is it your tinfoil hat that has short-circuited? Why not try thinking for a change?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 16, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    Somebody's tinfoil hat has a short-circuit.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    June 16, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    M-man, I'll bet that Obama's poll popularity never gets as low as GWB's in his second, regrettable term. AND I bet that Biden will never shoot anyone in the face with a shotgun.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 16, 2013 2:45 p.m.


    So lets see as of today obama's approv rating remains at 47 percent a number it has been hovering around for months and congressional approval, the people trying to create a political circus, approval rating remains at 14 perecent so by all means keep the consperecy theories and empty rhetoric coming.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    @ Mountanman

    As a Libertarian, after reading the posts of the aforementioned & a few others that, I can safely say, "Conservatives always right never correct."

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    June 16, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    Watch out, here comes the IRS with you in the cross-hairs. Make sure you change cell phones if you are with verizon.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    MMan's declaration that "Obama's plunge in the polls will continue" reminds me of two others he made within days of the President's reelection in November. Then still licking his wounds that his choice was shunned by the voters he predicted: "the recent market downturn will continue because people realize they opted for less than the all business guy that is Mitt Romney" and "I hope you all like $4.00 a gallon gas because it will soon be five or six dollars!"

    Why not leave predicting the future to someone with a crystal ball instead of a slanted partisan viewpoint?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 16, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    No, it is not obvious. What is obvious is you dislike the president, and can back it up with AM radio talking points.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    June 16, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    Liberals are always entertaining. But now you are getting really humorous to the point of ridiculousness in your defense of Obama's malfeasance, cover-ups, his refusal to answer any questions about any of his scandals and you claim anyone who asks him for answers in on a "witch hunt" or is a "side show". You are so politically biased and your ideology is so thick you can't even see your emperor has no clothes. Obama's plunge in the polls will continue because you can fool some of the people all the time but you can't fool all the people all the time.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 6:41 a.m.

    Better hang on tightly to those guns, Mr. Dupont. The NSA now has you in its sights.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 6:06 a.m.

    And what about Obama's War on Christmas?

    And chemtrails?

  • LiberalEastCoastMember Parkesburg, PA
    June 16, 2013 2:24 a.m.

    I suspect Mr. DuPont, that history will see Rice's appointment and indeed Mr. Obama's entire presidency differently.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 16, 2013 12:16 a.m.

    You forgot to mention death panels and birth certificates.