wont be easy or cheap but will be much easier than dealing with ongoing
health issues of the population and cheaper than destroying our economy with
considerable losses that will invariably occur with unchecked pollution
It's hard so do nothing. We'll just suffer in our own waste products
And you could spend millions of dollars and you would still not have noticeable
results unless Mother Nature agreed with you. I agree with all doing their part
but chasing this problem with dollars will not prove to be a good investment.
So where do we invest? In improving Utah's air or more Obamacare to handle
the growing illness that our polluted air brings to our growing families?
"...Of course clearing the air won't be easy. Especially since to keep
the air clear on all days you would need to remove the mountains, change weather
patterns, and get rid of all the people...".No... on removing
the mountains...No... on changing weather patterns...Yes... on getting rid of all the people.
@2 bits"The answer is for every person to do what they can "Voluntary decision making is basically what we've been using and it
hasn't worked well.
Irony Guy,So just replacing Republicans with Democrats would fix it??? I
don't think so.This viewing EVERYTHING through politics-colored
glasses is NOT solving the problem. The problem isn't "R" vs
"D". The solution must rely on the people being WILLING to change
their behavior (not coming up with a political regime that you think will force
them to do it your way).We need to focus on convincing people that
there is something they can do, and getting them committed to doing it by
appealing to the benefits of the change (ie cleaner air)... The solution
isn't forcing people against their will. You aren't Andy Stern, and
this isn't a "If we can't use the power-of-persuasion... we will
use the persuasion-of-power" type of issue. You don't solve this with
a government power trip. You solve it by convincing people that it's in
their own interest to do it.Persuasion by "Power" or
"Force" is NOT the solution.No.. you can't solve this
one just by replacing "R"s with "D"s.
Our governor's plan is silly, relying on voluntary efforts from people who
can't afford to volunteer. It's too slow and expensive to take mass
transit, which is ridiculous--it should be the other way around. The governor
also asks nothing of industry, which is responsible for at least half the mess.
Can we get rid of this Republican can't-help-it-we-live-in-a-bowl thinking?
Seems to me that sane people who live in a bowl would be extremely careful about
Of course clearing the air won't be easy. Especially since to keep the
air clear on all days you would need to remove the mountains, change weather
patterns, and get rid of all the people.This valley had inversions
and bad air days before the pioneers even came here. The Indians warned the
pioneers about it. It's part of the topography, weather, and human
factors. Even if we totally removed the human factors there would still be
inversions and bad air days when certain weather pasterns occur.As
long as we understand that and can acknowledge it... I think there's
actually a lot we can do short of moving the mountains, changing the climate,
and removing the people. But we're never going to get clear air in this
valley every day.IMO The answer isn't more government, more
regulations, more laws, more protests, etc. The answer is for every person to
do what they can (and it doesn't have to be totally radical such as driving
a hemp powered vehicle). I can be as simple as not using the fireplace, car
pooling, etc. Do whatever you can. Government can't do it for you.
Wow - the editorial board needs to do a bit of a fact check before publishing
their "opinion." For example, it is the Utah Air Quality Board,
appointed by the Governor and approved by the Senate, and the Division of Air
Quality is their staff, not the other way around as this article implies.
Secondly, the Air Quality Board DID endorse the proposed Tier 3 Motor Vehicle
and Fuel Standards rule - by unanimous vote, including the oil refinery
representative. In their letter to EPA, the Air Quality Board stated its hope
that the "Tier 3 gasoline" penetrate the market in Utah as soon as
possible because the air quality benefit will be almost immediate. The letter
is available and out there - read it before you start expressing your
"opinion." So, in essence, the article is correct - Tier 3 will result
in cleaner air in Utah; however, the implication that the editorial board was
the first to come to this conclusion and that the State should come out in
support of this proposed rule is self-serving and just a tad disingenuous.
Neither was leaving our temple and homes back east and building a city in a
desert 1,000 miles from anything of importance. But it was worth it, right?
Sometimes doing the right thing isn't cheap or easy.
Hair spray could be banned in Utah. All government vehicles could be converted
to natural gas. All companies with fleets could be encouraged to do the same.
The front runner could be converted to dual tracks to make it more convenient,
and the price lowered. People who live close to their work could get a property
tax break. Companies who allow telecommuting could get tax breaks. UTA buses who
go out of their way to go to the Bountiful Lakeview hospital, making the commute
to downtown and the university longer could stop doing this. People would be
more willing to take public transportation if it wasn't so slow.
Very few really GOOD things are easy or cheap. But that doesn't mean we
shouldn't do them.