Comments about ‘In our opinion: Clearing the air in Utah won't be easy or cheap’

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Published: Friday, June 14 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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one old man
Ogden, UT

Very few really GOOD things are easy or cheap. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't do them.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Hair spray could be banned in Utah. All government vehicles could be converted to natural gas. All companies with fleets could be encouraged to do the same. The front runner could be converted to dual tracks to make it more convenient, and the price lowered. People who live close to their work could get a property tax break. Companies who allow telecommuting could get tax breaks. UTA buses who go out of their way to go to the Bountiful Lakeview hospital, making the commute to downtown and the university longer could stop doing this. People would be more willing to take public transportation if it wasn't so slow.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Neither was leaving our temple and homes back east and building a city in a desert 1,000 miles from anything of importance. But it was worth it, right? Sometimes doing the right thing isn't cheap or easy.

trapdinutah
South Jordan, UT

Wow - the editorial board needs to do a bit of a fact check before publishing their "opinion." For example, it is the Utah Air Quality Board, appointed by the Governor and approved by the Senate, and the Division of Air Quality is their staff, not the other way around as this article implies. Secondly, the Air Quality Board DID endorse the proposed Tier 3 Motor Vehicle and Fuel Standards rule - by unanimous vote, including the oil refinery representative. In their letter to EPA, the Air Quality Board stated its hope that the "Tier 3 gasoline" penetrate the market in Utah as soon as possible because the air quality benefit will be almost immediate. The letter is available and out there - read it before you start expressing your "opinion." So, in essence, the article is correct - Tier 3 will result in cleaner air in Utah; however, the implication that the editorial board was the first to come to this conclusion and that the State should come out in support of this proposed rule is self-serving and just a tad disingenuous.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Of course clearing the air won't be easy. Especially since to keep the air clear on all days you would need to remove the mountains, change weather patterns, and get rid of all the people.

This valley had inversions and bad air days before the pioneers even came here. The Indians warned the pioneers about it. It's part of the topography, weather, and human factors. Even if we totally removed the human factors there would still be inversions and bad air days when certain weather pasterns occur.

As long as we understand that and can acknowledge it... I think there's actually a lot we can do short of moving the mountains, changing the climate, and removing the people. But we're never going to get clear air in this valley every day.

IMO The answer isn't more government, more regulations, more laws, more protests, etc. The answer is for every person to do what they can (and it doesn't have to be totally radical such as driving a hemp powered vehicle). I can be as simple as not using the fireplace, car pooling, etc. Do whatever you can. Government can't do it for you.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Our governor's plan is silly, relying on voluntary efforts from people who can't afford to volunteer. It's too slow and expensive to take mass transit, which is ridiculous--it should be the other way around. The governor also asks nothing of industry, which is responsible for at least half the mess. Can we get rid of this Republican can't-help-it-we-live-in-a-bowl thinking? Seems to me that sane people who live in a bowl would be extremely careful about fouling it.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Irony Guy,
So just replacing Republicans with Democrats would fix it??? I don't think so.

This viewing EVERYTHING through politics-colored glasses is NOT solving the problem. The problem isn't "R" vs "D". The solution must rely on the people being WILLING to change their behavior (not coming up with a political regime that you think will force them to do it your way).

We need to focus on convincing people that there is something they can do, and getting them committed to doing it by appealing to the benefits of the change (ie cleaner air)... The solution isn't forcing people against their will. You aren't Andy Stern, and this isn't a "If we can't use the power-of-persuasion... we will use the persuasion-of-power" type of issue. You don't solve this with a government power trip. You solve it by convincing people that it's in their own interest to do it.

Persuasion by "Power" or "Force" is NOT the solution.

No.. you can't solve this one just by replacing "R"s with "D"s.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@2 bits
"The answer is for every person to do what they can "

Voluntary decision making is basically what we've been using and it hasn't worked well.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...Of course clearing the air won't be easy. Especially since to keep the air clear on all days you would need to remove the mountains, change weather patterns, and get rid of all the people...".

No... on removing the mountains...

No... on changing weather patterns...

Yes... on getting rid of all the people.

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

So where do we invest? In improving Utah's air or more Obamacare to handle the growing illness that our polluted air brings to our growing families?

high school fan
Huntington, UT

And you could spend millions of dollars and you would still not have noticeable results unless Mother Nature agreed with you. I agree with all doing their part but chasing this problem with dollars will not prove to be a good investment.

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

It's hard so do nothing. We'll just suffer in our own waste products thank you.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

wont be easy or cheap but will be much easier than dealing with ongoing health issues of the population and cheaper than destroying our economy with considerable losses that will invariably occur with unchecked pollution

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