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Published: Thursday, June 13 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

Really, George Will? The worst thing about being governed by lawless bureaucrats is that Americans will learn to distrust government?

I think it's healthy to distrust government. My worst fear is that Americans will lose their liberty.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

When I saw her testify, I saw a possibility that she hadn't done anything wrong. That she was refusing to testify because she and her lawyer saw that conservatives were after a pound of flesh, so she was afraid they might twist her words in an attempt to use her as a scape goat. In a similar position, I would do the same thing.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Let's all refuse to pay our taxes and then tell the IRS we are taking the 5th Amendment! If its good enough for Lois Lerner to hide behind it should be good for us, right?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

As usual, George Will is correct. He has pointed out an abuse of power. Now, the question is, what are WE going to do about it? Are we all just going to continue to pontificate or are we going to demand that those who represent us in Congress protect our liberties?

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Frankly, I'm not sure she did violate the law OR ethics. She was responsible for ensuring that only "charitable or educational" groups received tax exemptions, not political groups. That's what she was doing. Out of 300 groups flagged, 78 were "conservative." That seems about right.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The things about conservative republicans illustrated by this article is that democrats used the legal process, where as the republicans use hearsay to discredit an enemy.

As I understand it, there are no actual charges filed against the Obama team. The scandals are simply made up bogeymen to distract the voter from the real dangers of the conservative republicans.

While I sometimes think justice is thwarted by the Fifth Amendment, I do think it is the perfect right of any American. Especially when under the attack of a sniping, extremely prejudiced, political enemy.

I would recommend that every member of President Obama’s team respond to the Congress interference with the Fifth Amendment. Maybe if the republicans see that they are stopped in their mud slinging, they will actually get down to the real business they are supposed to do.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Before deciding whether what she did was either legal or ethical, how about listing all of the liberal groups where were sent those exact same questionaires? How about listing all of the liberal groups that were denied the desired status? How about explaining how Barack Obama's brother organization was cleared within thirty-days and then had its tax-exempt status made retro-active for two years?

If we believe in equality, then ALL political organizations must be treated exactly the same. It didn't happen. The I.R.S. targeted conservative groups. Liberal group received no hassle.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Tea Party.

Would it be possible for you to describe the liberty that you fear losing?

Please don’t include that liberty secured to you by the American government that you distrust.

jsf
Centerville, UT

The admission by Lois Lerner was, as she publicly said, conservative groups were specifically targeted by the IRS. The question she will not answer is who authorized it. And how high does it go.

The violations were the release of data collected by the IRS. Remember Harry Reid saying he knew the details of Romney's personal tax returns. To know that before they were released by Romney, by anyone from preparer to IRS, would be a felony. If Harry Reid received this information, and has not submitted the party to authorities, he is protecting a felon.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "Irony Guy" and "Ultra Bob" but the data that the IRS gathered was used illegally. According to ProPublica, they received information from the IRS about conservative groups. It is illegal for the IRS to be giving out information like that. They were given copies of applications of at least 9 conservative groups that had not been approved. See "Progressive Group: IRS Gave Us Conservative Groups' Confidential Docs" at Breitbart where they even included links to redacted copies of some of the illegally distributed documents.

To "Ultra Bob" but the Obama administration has been named in a lawsuit. See CNN's article "Conservative group takes IRS, top Obama officials to court"

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Ultra Bob "Would it be possible for you to describe the liberty that you fear losing?"

Certainly. I'm concerned about the effect it has upon the rule of law when people with differing political opinions are targeted for harassment by those in power. Unequal protection destroys the rule of law, which is an essential element of our liberty.

"Please don’t include that liberty secured to you by the American government that you distrust."

Why not? George Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." If he could believe this, and still serve as president, why should I not believe it as a private citizen?

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

Great job George, as usual.

Your description of Lerner's "slithering partisanship" is so perfectly descriptive it should be trademarked. I wish it described only her. But, as you also aptly noted, she is but one of thousands of partisan hacks who have thoroughly corrupted almost all levels and areas of the Federal government.

Worst of all is the fact that it takes an informed and honest electorate to clean out the snake pit that describes so much of Washington. And, I am increasingly doubtful there are enough of those kinds of voters to do the job.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

The IRS is the new collection agency for the welfare state! Under Obama, it has a new role as well, the primary punishment agency for anyone who disagrees with Obama's socialist agenda. Step out of line of Obama's agenda and the IRS will be in touch with you!

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Nate.

“I'm concerned about the effect it has upon the rule of law when people with differing political opinions are targeted for harassment by those in power. Unequal protection destroys the rule of law, which is an essential element of our liberty.”
Right on! We’ve been working to get that form of liberty from the very beginning.
But, we obviously have a long way to go, as illustrated by the OWS, the plight of President Obama, the attempt by churches to extend freedom of religion to business, voting restrictions and shenanigans against people and the improper influence of business on our government.

I tend to doubt quotes that come from long dead people who cannot confirm their accuracy. However, I agree with the quote.

To me our government is like a rope in our grasp as we dangle over an abyss, it may be frayed and worn, but if we discard it…
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m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Ultra Bob, I don't know how old you are, but a Republican could have said the very same things you are saying back in the days of Nixon and Watergate. Think about it.

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