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Published: Tuesday, June 11 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Tooele, UT

It's sad that anyone listens to liberals who first CAUSE the problems confronting the military today, then complain bitterly that they exist, suggesting military leaders are incompetent because they haven't completely countered pernicious liberal influences in the services.

Compared to any similar non-military cohort, America's Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines are still leas likely than any of the others to commit crime, in general, or sex crime, in particular.

That said, ANY level of disgusting, unity-sapping, mission-distracting military criminal behavior disgraces anyone perpetrating, permitting, or encouraging it.

So, how best to address the issue?

Chaplain services, or in-service evangelization is out. Liberals promise prosecution of anyone sharing religion and values with a comrade-in-arms.

Ethics/morals/self-control training is out. It offends LGBT activists.

Reminding males of traditional moral responsibilities to protect and refrain from abusing women is out. It offends feminists.

Even military discipline is severely degraded, due to political tampering with the Uniform Code.

Liberal politics created the problem. The solution is less, NOT more politics.

Unreconstructed Reb
Chantilly, VA

Procurafiscal, your post is patently false.

The military gives full support to religious worship led by chaplains. Proselytizing has been banned because of chronic problems with abuse by superiors forcing their religion on those below them. That doesn't negate encouragement to be religiously involved and to seek spiritual counsel from chaplains.

Ethics training is consistently pushed, especially as it regards the need to protect innocent non-combatants.

Training emphasizes positive treatment of women and absolute prohibitions against rape/abuse of women.

The problem is not the lack of training or the intrusion of so-called "liberal politics", the problem is lack of willpower to consistently enforce the zero tolerance standards that are already in place. The "Good Ole Boys Club" still retains too much power, and commanders don't want to bother with the headaches of taking sexual harassment as seriously as they need to.


@UR - I believe procuradorfiscal has a good point, but I don't see that he articulated the root cause of the problem. If I may - there were plenty of folks who predicted exactly this kind of thing would result from throwing men and women together in military units. Clearly they ought not to behave this way, but it apparently and unfortunately is part of the human condition as evidenced by the predicted and predictable results. We cannot change human nature with good intentions. We must do what is right and sensible, not what makes one feel enlightened.

This kind of thing is symptomatic of the liberal mindset, to presume that human nature will change because they have willed it to change. That is a false presumption. Human beings are nothing if not corruptible. That is why the Founding Fathers were adamantly against Big Government, and why we too should oppose it. Until we all recognize that fact we will continue to experience these kinds of failures.

clearfield, UT

What has surprised me in this story of military rape, is that "men" are also being subjected to rape. That opens one of the biggest questions. Namely, gays in the military? I know women are vulnerable to the aggressive heterosexual male. Are men now vulnerable to the aggressive homosexual male? Is that what is going on? I have been a supporter of women in the military, even on ships at sea, but clearly "Washington D.C., we have a problem." Let's not run away from it for the sake of political correctness.

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA


I don't see a difference between men and women working alongside each other in the military services versus any other job. The same gender dynamics are at work in either situation, and the same personalities with proclivities towards harassment, assault, and rape can be found in virtually every work environment. I can't buy the argument that we should bar women from service simply because of the potential that they might be victimized, because that is true of any job where both genders work together.

Will bad things happen? Sure. As you point out, it's human nature. But I don't think that it's about trying to change human behavior, but about offering opportunities for women to serve their country in uniform (disclosure, I work as a DOD civilian with many active duty female soldiers, and they do a fantastic job). The difference between DOD and the civilian workplace is that most civilian business enforce a zero tolerance policy that both deters and punishes infractions. DOD has failed to enforce its own policies, which means that violators not only manage to stay in the service, but become emboldened to continue their abusive behavior.

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