I know plenty of prep coaches that got fired because they didn't win enough
I don't get the point of the article, what purpose does the beginning of
the article have on high school coaches? Joe Cravens points that are made have
nothing to do with high school sports."Common sense in
today's world is really not that common." What on earth does this
comment even mean in context with the actual article? On the other
side, it's almost like you are saying "hey we don't get paid much
so it is okay to verbally abuse kids because back in 1970 my coach did the same
thing!"No, it is not okay to cuss and abuse kids. I don't
care what the situation is or how much money you may or may not make doing the
job. At the high school level it is unacceptable. Period.High school
coaches do not face the same expectations as college coaches do. Their salaries
are not 100% dependent on winning or losing, so there is really no comparison
Coach lewis is such a good coach, and his program is so sound that my bet is
with LP winning state again next year despite losing 4 of their 5 starters.
Eagle , you are right on. The high profile sports have gotten way out of whack
with huge salaries and massive pressure. The problem is now there are parents
who expect high school coaches to run their programs like division one programs.
They demand so much for so little. It is a very heavy burden for our high school
coaches to carry.
Cobra Commander: I am quite aware of that and I agree with you 100%. I was
addressing the first part of the article and the pressure to win there is
immense causing poor behavior by many of these (college) coaches.
Unfortunately, this pressure has trickled down to high school and youth sports
and where you correctly ascertain, the pay is horrible for the amount of
pressure and expectations. I feel bad for the expectations placed on high
school coaches but for the high profile sports (men's basketball and
football at the university level) I have much less sympathy based on the salary
Eagle...the article was about high school coaches. A lot of college coaches make
good money. High school coaches work extremely hard for next to nothing. If you
broke it down to hourly pay for a high school coach, it would literally be a
dollar or less per hour. Amy's point was that HS coaches work extremely
hard and have a huge amount of pressure to perform.Amy, thanks for putting
this out there. There are many people who need to step back and realize how many
good men there are working with HS athletes in Utah. Those men are grossly
underpaid for the job they are tasked with.
My high school football coach exemplified each of the negative behaviors
mentioned here. He cussed like a sailor, screamed, belittled players, kicked
me. When he was in a good mood he told us horribly dirty jokes. We all just
figured that's how coaches behave.
"whose" vs "who's". Every writer should know the
I've had 3 close friends be head coaches at 5A schools over the last 20
years. All three agree that the PARENTS are largely the ones who are the
critical factor in whether high school sports are a positive thing or a negative
thing. The pressure exerted by parents, their criticism of the coach and the
"kid" who plays more then theirs, creates a form of cancer that eats
programs.I've coached 200+ super league basketball games the
last 8 years and I still can't believe how unbalanced some parents become
during competition, like...borderline criminal behavior towards referees and
opposing parents.Somewhere along the line, in our society's
marvelous improvements we have lost the art of how to communicate with each
other. Civility has waxed cold.
I hear many coaches who echo the words of some who were interviewed
here---"you have to treat each individual differently" "one size
does not fit all." etc. With due respect and an understanding that all kids
are different, I think that a consistent set of guidelines might even be MORE
valuable. When one kid is screamed at--taunted to do more--and another is
treated like the golden boy of the team, or ignored, or held to a different set
of standards because he/she is considered more valuable to the team/coaches
success--this is where problems begin. How about fair, balanced discipline and
self discipline that radiates to the team. Let them know what they can expect
and that you will be a rock and not a best buddy---or distant figurehead. Treat
players fairly and with respect--demand the same of your players.
I believe the problem for coaches stems from parents. Too many parents believe
their children are as good as what they have created in their mind. When their
athlete doesn't measure up they automatically blame the coach. These
coaches get blamed for everything. I have lived all over the nation and Utah is
by far the worst for this problem as far as I am concerned.
While these coaches do have a lot of pressure they also make a truck load of
money. Some football and/or basketball college coaches are the highest paid
state government employees making millions of dollars. That is where the source
of much of this pressure. Things are out of whack and the ones suffering are
the players who want to play a "game" for the love of it while for many
coaches they are merely pawns in order to make these coaches (and universities)
obscene amounts of money.
Great story Amy!