Like a wise man said if the bill stated that these illegals after gaining
citizenship could not vote for fifty years this stampede to legalize them would
be DOA. Both parties are pandering to hispanics .for votes. Nothing more nothing
less.All else they say is malarky.
The bill is to big. We need enforcement for several years before boosting visas,
and dealing with previous criminal activity. People here illegally
commit multiple felonies. Will they be allowed to stay? If so, the promise that
criminals will be returned home is a lie.
The immigration bill vs Obama care. Attempted guilt by association. You are
wrong about both bills, but in Utah why am I not surprised?
Just called our Senators offices to encourage Sen Hatch to listen to Sen Lee and
to tell Sen Lee I support his stance.I agree with Sen Lee 100%.One
more thought. Many Hispanics will never vote for Conservatives, no matter what
we give them. To put the well being of the citizens of the USA first when
making corrections to our immigration reform is a must. All elected officials
should start with the question"How does this make the USA a stronger, better
country" , and move on from there when developing legislation.Weakening this country in no way will provide a better life for anyone,
anywhere in this world.
I think Senator Lee's opinions reflected in this article represent what a
majority of Utah Citizens feel. Of course, non-citizens and those sympathizing
with them would not agree.Citizens have just about had enough of the
demands and sob stories from people who really should not be here in the first
place, and they wonder what is the thinking of those leaders who would like to
give them the pathway to legalization.If some of our businesses
truly are met with a shortage of potential employees for certain jobs, lets make
the Visa system work better and more efficient in supplying those non-citizen
employees, but with accountability and checks and balances.
Senator Lee, the world just doesn't work like that--for obvious reasons.Private businesses and corporations don't even do deals by the
"piecemeal" approach. The parties to a business deal get together,
hammer out an agreement over the course of weeks, months until they are both
reasonably satisfied. The agreements can be hundreds of pages long-- depending
on the size of the deal. The problem is, we have people in Congress
who can't/won't compromise. They have no business being legislators.
Actually, yes; many of the American people DID oppose the Patriot Act because it
could lead to things like what we are currently seeing. Congress, of course,
did not care what we said.
LEE: "Did the American people have any idea that the PATRIOT Act would
empower the NSA to spy on all Americans through their cell phones and computers?
What makes any of us, least of all any conservative, believe this immigration
bill is going to work out any better? The lesson we should be taking from our
recent mistakes is not that we need to pass better huge, sweeping new laws, but
that we should instead undertake major necessary reforms incrementally, one step
at a time, and in the proper sequence. We need to face the fact that
thousand-page bureaucratic overhaul do not achieve their desired goals, and they
create far more problems....."Lee proposes a piecemeal approach
that would require the passage of several elements of whats in the immigration
bill. Lee, and other House Republicans are pushing for the same approach, know
that voting on the bill part-by-part makes it much more likely some provisions,
like border security, will pass, while others, like a pathway to citizenship,
will be left out.
Okay, I like some parts and disagree with other parts.Let's try
this analogy.Immigration reform is similar to sugar in the gas
tank.Let's say we have roughly 1/2 gallon of sugar in the gas
tank and 20 gallons of fuel all mixed together, the engine has started to have
problems and now the driver knows they need to fix the vehicle so they take it
to the shop.Mike Lee is supporting the following:Making
sure that gas doesn't contain sugar (boarder security)Making sure you
get the right type of gas (legal immigration reform)Replacing the tires
(employment verification)He then wants to leave the shop leaving the
sugar in the tank and not cleaning the engine and running the car for a while to
see what happens. (opposes dealing with those already here)This is
why comprehensive reform is needed, if you don't to the whole thing, you
miss parts that gum up the rest of the work.Sure, each area is good
on its own part but with the above, you need to take care of the sugar in the
engine while at the shop not just ignore it.
The truth is that we shouldn't even be THINKING about legalizing illegal
aliens. Doing so would make an utter mockery of the rule of law as it would
signify that the law means nothing. And there is nothing cruel
about requiring them to return home, despite lying propaganda to the contrary.
The fact is, strict enforcement of immigration law, both on the
border and in the nation's interior, is government's constitutional
DUTY. HOW DARE this Gang of Eight hold the nation hostage by telling us,
"No, we will not carry out our constitutional duty, unless you legalize the
nation's illegal aliens." Legalization of illegal aliens
is the very opposite of enforcement. There is NO legitimate reason why we should
be rewarding lawbreakers with the objective of their illegality and tossing out
the rule of law aside in the process.Of course a nation's
immigration laws mean nothing if not backed up by a policy of accountability,
penalization and deportation as the standard. The pro-amnesty propagandists
understand this perfectly well; that is why they have been telling us that
deportation is impossible, inhumane, and breaks up families, when none of these
things actually is true.
The visa bill that Sen. Lee had and Sen. Hatch put in the the larger immigration
bill. The I-Squared Act. Lets pull it back out and pass it separately. We also should not force out of the country the high tech overseas student
home after we educate them, to compete with the US. (They should be allowed to
get a Green Card).We need to fix legal immigration. The best plan I
have seen is to have a decent no quota but sponsored system of immigration with
the ability later to become a citizen, Rep. Dougall's bill 2011 HB 469 in
2011 has the first part of that. It is the best bill that was supported by both
sides of the immigration debate.We need a simple E-Verify law for
companies 15 or larger to protect against ID theft.If the
"big" US immigration bill passes it will just further divide us. You get
a bill that no one really likes. We need more consensus building and less
compromise. If we focus on what we agree on, we can accomplish the most good.Congress should run a bunch of small simple bills.