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Published: Tuesday, June 4 2013 8:15 p.m. MDT

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AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

"Collinsworth played considerable minutes as a freshman on the 2010-11 team. Led by Jimmer Fredette and Jackson Emery, that squad reached the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament."

byu's first Sweet 16 since the Ainge-led Elite 8 run 30+ years ago, and this was with their most celebrated player ever, in JF.

I get byu fans confused the attention received nationally regarding JF as an indication of what they actually accomplished on the court with regard to the national stage and this provides their reality-check for them.

Cue the comments regarding UTAH's challenges in replacing our Legend, etc., but prestige on the national stage is earned via The NCAA Tourney and the disparity between UTAH/byu over the years couldn't be remotely greater than it actually is.

National leader in Tourney appearances without ever reaching The Final Four....Prestigious designation for byu, to say the very least.

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

I like the options that BYU now has on the outside. My worry is still if the two newcomers, Mika and Worthington along with Austin and Sharp can carry the 4 and 5 positions. I wish BYU had been able to pick up one more quality big man.

Regardless, should be a fun year with an excellent shot at the dance.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

Credibility on individual posting is impacted by the truthfulness of what an individual actually says... You can figure out the credibility on your own as it relates to the individual who frequently posts from Arizona... It's lacking to say the least.

How anyone that claims to be a supporter of the school on the hill can even comment on the sport of Basketball makes me chuckle... One simply needs to look at the record this school has against the Cougs over the last 7 years... 1-12... Sad but true... Then, if we were to take it one step further and compare the highly touted Arizona Wildcats record against the Cougs over the past 5 years it would read 0-2... with an average loss diferential of almost 30 points per game... Ouch.

If I were this individual I would be waiting and hoping for Gymnastic season because that is really the only sport that his team can legitimately claim superiority over the Cougs... Again, sad for them but true.

Serenity Now
Highland, UT

Agree with provocougar. Collinsworth is a utility player and knows how to win. Beating LP all those years shows it, and the fact that he was the team's leading rebounder in the Sweet 16 run after his older brother couldn't play, Rodgers got hurt, and Davis left school shows that he can step up when the need is there.

Regardless of where he plays, having KC, Carlino and Haws on the court at the same time could be a very good thing this year. It might be that Rose is preparing Cougar fans for a lot of "small ball" next year (+ Mika).

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: AZUTE1

"Cue the comments regarding UTAH's challenges in replacing our Legend, etc., but prestige on the national stage is earned via The NCAA Tourney and the disparity between UTAH/byu over the years couldn't be remotely greater than it actually is."

If the clock starts in 2004 for Utah/BYU football, maybe it should for basketball as well. Since then...

NCAA tournament appearances:
Utah, 2 (+1 CBI appearance)
BYU, 6 (+2 NIT appearances)

NCAA tournament wins
Utah, 3
BYU, 5

Take out 2004 and Utah has ZERO tournament wins but BYU still has five. You're right, there is a disparity, just not the one you were hoping for. Go Cougs!

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@Lo Cal Reader
"Why stop there? I've seen a lot of the good high school teams institute the 3-guard systeme as well."

FYI...a lot of really good D-1 programs run a 3 guard offense. It's pretty common as a matter of fact....and successful. Especially in tournament play.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

I actually think what coach Rose is alluding to is intriguing. I agree with other posters that Collinsworth is more of a slasher and get in the paint type player. If BYU fans step back and think a minute...on last years squad who could slash and break down defenses better than Collinsworth? Answer: no one, and that hurt BYUs ability to get open shots both inside and outside...one of the more important duties of a PG is to get those open shots for other players (why do you think Tony Parker is such a great PG for San Antonio...it's certainly not because of his perimeter shooting ability). I agree with other posters as well regarding our bigs. We have to get more depth in the paint. Hopefully Mika will be as tough and talented as he's projected to be.

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

AZUTE1:

When it comes to football, we are constantly reminded by Ute fans that games played during the '70s, '80s, and '90s are irrelevant, that only records since 2000 count, and that recent head-to-head results between BYU and Utah are the ONLY factor to consider when determining the relative strength of the programs.

Using that logic, and in light of Dave Rose's remarkable 12-3 ownage of Huntsman Junior High aka University of Utah in basketball, then one can conclude that BYU is the up-and-coming program in the state while Utah is fading and living on past glories.

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