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Published: Tuesday, June 4 2013 8:15 p.m. MDT

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Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I always thought that Collinsworth played SF........he did not seem to really have the outside shot to play guard, and his height is more fitting for a 3. I hope that he can get better at free throws at the very least. Although maybe he could bring a good alternative to PG. I always liked the guy when he was on the floor, so it is good to have him back at any rate.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

With these two, we could have the best back court in the country.

flatlander
Omaha, NE

Be interesting to see who gets playing time with that many gurds on scholarship

THE MTN MAN
Taylorsville, UT

Agree with Vladhagen. Collinsworth seems to be good at everything except shooting. Not sure if he would fit really well at point guard. And BYU already has Carlino with Bartley and Halford as backups, so it's not like they NEED more guys at that position. But Collinsworth will definitely help the team, wherever he plays.

Hey Baby
Franklin, IN

Love Mildred. Always brings good perspective...keep 'em coming girl...

Louisiana Cougar
Pineville, LA

I must shout out a loud "BUTTERSCOTCH" at Rose's comments.

I loved Collinsworth as a freshman player and look forward to having him back. However, the problem with him is that he has struggled offensively in getting his own shot. Certainly, Carlino never has seen a shot he wouldn't take and he does not share Collinsworth's shortcomings. However, I was befuddled that Rose would make the statements reported in this article.

Is this Rose's effort at misdirection -- since the Cougars definitely need front court help and lack experience at Power Forward and Center? Why focus on guard play? Duh, me! I don't get it . . . but I do get that BYU has been getting killed inside by teams with good bigs.

Danish American
Payson, UT

It's always great to hear from those who always know better than the coach. I'm sure they've had the years of experience coaching, attend all the practices, and are excellent judges of talent. I'm sure if they only had the chance they could surely be the best coach in BYU basketball history.

buryme
Mesa, AZ

totally agree with those who call out Collinsworth for his offensive skills. when I heard that he was Utah high school player of the year for 2 years I was so excited to watch him play. when I saw his shooting form I almost fainted.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

This is a reader's comment forum. Readers are readers and not coaches. None of them say they are coaches and none of them say they know more than coaches. They are expressing their opinions. Some readers have played and coached and watched and are reasonably intelligent...all of which entitles them to an opinion...and to be criticized for their opinions...but not really for being readers and not coaches.

Keep those reader opinions coming...that's what this comment board is for.

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

"Some of my best teams in junior college...." Hmmmmm. We're going to compare Juco basketball to a major Div. 1 program? Odd quote. Why stop there? I've seen a lot of the good high school teams institute the 3-guard systeme as well.

JamastrJ
Eagle mountain, UT

What that article really says is this "I really hope Kyle can handle the point, so I can move Carlino to his real position as a scoring guard". KC doesn't need to score a ton from that position. BYU is an inside out team and Carlino is not a good decision maker with ball.

Hoosier87
American Fork, UT

Collingsworth needs a lot of work on his shot before I'd be too excited about him playing a guard spot.

Scary...

Smart, athletic player - but point guard?

gamer
PROVO, UT

Here's the real story. Collinsworth and his parents before signing with BYU and during his mission have claimed that he'd transfer if Kyle didnt get to play at the PG guard spot. Seeing that he can do everything but shoot- then, if the shooting came around then a 1 or a 2 would be the only positions he could play in the NBA. They know his only chance to get in the league is at the guard spot and so that's where he'll play when coach Rose can aviod using him at the 3 or at desperate times at the 4. When Kyle played the 4 in the NCAA tournament a few years ago his parents weren't happy at all. They want scouts to see his guard potential.

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

Mildred:

One thing's for sure: They certainly will be the best guard combo in the stete.

When is that powerful PAC-12 program up on the hill going to be able to beat Weber State and USU?

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

gamer:

Care to reveal your source for that? And "I saw it in a dream" doesn't count.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

I like Kyle as a player... He's more of a slasher than a spot up shooter, He's got good quickness, he's a good defender and a very good rebounder for his size... He seemed hesitant to shoot the 3 ball, but then he had Jimmer and Emery on the floor with him...

He's very versatile and can play 1,2,3, or 4 at the Division I level... although his natural position is probably a #3... I really don't recall seeing him play #1 his Freshman year, but he was a good ball handler and more risk adverse than Carlino... I do remember that on occasion when the team was pressed (man to man) he would clear the ball in the back court but seldom if ever did I see him with the ball at the top of the key running the offense...

In fact, as I recall his missed free throw on a 2 shot foul at the end of regulation that would have put us in the elite 8 against Butler was shot while he was playing the #4 poition and the foul occured on a rebound and put-back opportunity.

He'll help us alot this year.

GD
Syracuse, UT

I don't like Carlino or Collinsworth at point guard. Collinsworth's strength is penetration. He is not a good shooter. I'm hoping Bartley and Halford can play the position. Bartley's a freshman and may not be ready for that responsibility. Rose is a good coach and I'm sure he'll use the players where they'll help the team the most. Lacking a power forward will hurt the Y this year. We'll see a lot of 3 guards playing together. I'm looking forward to watching them even though we will be a very average team.

DRay
Roy, UT

Coach Rose will always be guard oriented, hope assist coaches can recruit, develop the bigs...still true that bb at highest level requires height, rebounding, wide, strength around basket,

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@GD... I think that you are wrong... I look to BYU to surprise this year... Austin will be alot more agressive on Offense, as will Sharp and I think Mika will make a significant splash... Carlino will be better and more consistent and Haws will be consistent as well... I expect a 25 Win season with a trip to the Dance...

provocougar
Provo1, UT

BYU will be very lucky to have three very special guards that should compliment each other very well. I guess I have been watching a different Kyle Collinsworth for the last several years. He fills a real need for BYU, a true leader and a great passer. He also is a total winner. He never lost to Lone Peak. As for shooting, I guess 48 percent from the field is not good enough. In high school he shot over fifty percent from both the three point line and from the field. Check out his stats from High School. He averaged almost a triple double. He was an NBA Top 100 player. And he was good enough to play all five positions at BYU, including guarding Delaldova out front and Gonzaga and Florida bigs in the back. He also had over 30 rebounds in the NCAA tournament. Fans shouldn't judge a player that played with Jimmer his senior year. He made all of his teammates worse because he controlled the ball. Was Noah better with or without Jimmer? I am excited to watch BYU next year. KC will make the team better in every way.

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