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Published: Friday, May 31 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

President Obama has the near-impossible task of repairing the damage caused by Bush's war on terror. Our standing as a respected world-leader may never recover from the fraud and mismanagement of the Bush years. Bless our Amazing President Obama! His so-called "blunders" are a hiccup compared to the disasters Bush caused.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Huh? Where did this come from? May we see some solid documentation that there is any degree of truth behind this nonsense? And hate radio stations do not count as valid confirmation.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Obama has a problem with reality. This is why he refuses to admit his malfeasance in Benghazi, it contradicts his arrogant assertion that HE already defeated Al Qaida. Perhaps Al Qaida didn't get his memo or have not listened to his speeches?

isrred
South Jordan, UT

You can't "Win" a war with no opponent, so to say that this is "defeat" is ludicrous.

But hey, at least Obama didn't hang a giant "Mission Accomplished" banner up a few weeks into it.

SEY
Sandy, UT

So then how would you describe victory? How would you know when terrorism has been finally defeated?

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

We are still spending nearly $700 billion annually in defense. More than we ever did during the Cold War, Vietnam War, Korean War, and WWII. I don't think that is an indication of surrender.

Besides, what would you have Obama do to PROVE his stance on terrorism? Kill Osama? Yeah, he already did that.

So what else? Invade Iran or Libya?

Have we learned nothing from Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq?

To what end is this war on terror? Spend $1 trillion annually? Own the entire Middle East? What do repubs want? There will always be some bad guys in the world. Sorry!

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

The "war on terror" is just another corporate welfare scheme to give billions away to the Military Industrial complex. It isn't even a real war?

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

It's one thing to disagree on policies, and expected outcomes, but what has seasoned political observer shaking their heads and saying they have never seen a political environment like this is the massive misinformation and willful ignorance displayed by the right today.

Should we arm Libyan rebels is a debatable question, but to say the President has surrendered to extremists in the middle of the debate about the Presidents use of drones is beyond being misinformed.

thatthatguy
Cottonwood Heights, UT

In 2004, Osama Bin Laden said “We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” Now, 10 years later, Osama's goal of driving America to bankruptcy is succeeding. Our goal of, what, killing all the terrorists, is no closer to completion than it was in 2001. Maybe we need to reconsider our strategy in the "war on terror".

Dave D
Spring Creek, NV

What if the best approach to "fighting" terrorism has been right under our noses the whole time? I say it's worth a shot. I'm guessing it would be cheaper and cost far fewer lives.
"Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ RanchHand. Not even a real war? Tell that to those murdered on 9/11 or those murdered in Benghazi or at the Boston Marathon, among hundreds of others.
No need for a military? Sprechen sie Deutch? How about Japanese? Pearl Harbor ring a bell with you? Ready to buy your wife and daughters a burka? Wise up! Life is shorter than you think!

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

1. There never REALLY was a "War on Terror" -- it was all a ruse to invade an oil rich country, and topple a rogue puppet dictator WE put in office, who then stopped playing by our Oil Corporation desires.

2. Obama took out the mastermind and kingpin of the 9/11 attacks - [the terrorist] Osama Bin Laden is dead, Al Qaeda is a side note in history, and like the Marshall Plan after WWII - it's time America starts building everything we spend years blowing-up -- most importantly our credibility through the Middle East.

3. Benghazi? C'mon. When Republicans take the blame for 12 other embassy attacks, the deaths of 60 diplomats, 5,000 dead soldiers, 75,000 wounded protecting "Oil" and not America or our Constitution -- then we can chat.

Until then - this "letter" is just more ranting and parroting of AM hate radio.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

What a load of rubbish. Just because we get rid of the silly 'war on whatever' nomenclature doesn't mean preventing terrorism falls off the radar. The phrase was only designed to monger fear, and enable poor decision making. The president surrendered nothing except unnecessary hyperbole. The day to day activities encompassed in the 'war on terror' are still part of the normal function of law enforcement and government agencies everywhere, even though we despise the government that provides them.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

"It was revealed this morning that McCain, during his personal mission to Syria to meet with rebels, appeared in photos with Mohammed Nour and Abu Ibrahim, two members of the Sunni "Northern Storm" brigade, which kidnapped 11 Lebanese Shia pilgrims, who were on their way back to Lebanon, from Iran. The group is still holding nine of the hostages.

This should give everyone pause when it comes to ramping up support for the rebels by arming them.

McCain's office says that the senator didn't know who they were, and doesn't support their terrorist acts. . If a U.S. senator can unwittingly pose for pictures with terrorists in Syria, how can we guarantee that the arms McCain supports sending there won't also end up in the same place McCain did -- with terrorists? The simple answer is that we can't.

What's worse, the Sunni side of the war, which McCain wants to support with arms, is not just affiliated with these kidnappers and terrorists, but also al Qaeda-affiliated groups, and Iraqi Sunni insurgents -- the very same Iraqi Sunnis who killed American troops, and the Iraqi Army."
(Jon Soltz Vote Vets)

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

@Mountanman;

That's right. The "War on Terror" is a war on an ideology, its not a real war. Who is the enemy? Every strike against "the enemy" that kills innocent civilians (and there have been many of these) creates more enemies.

What nation attacked us on 9/11? What nation attacked the Boston Marathon? Who is the enemy? You can't even pinpoint who it is. You can't have a war on an ideology, it will always fail.

Fortunately, reality is setting in.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ RanchHand. Perhaps you misunderstood my earlier comments? As President Bush told us, "we are not fighting a country but an ideology from many countries." If we can't win a war against an ideology, what shall we do? We have to win or be destroyed because to them you and I are "infidels" and the solution is our death! "Death to the infidels".

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

I thought Obama lead the "non-military seals" operation is take out Bin Laden? The term "war on terror" is so general and meaningless it could include shutting down roller coasters.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I think if we just be nice to terrorists they will treat us nice too. Hasn't the past few years already proven that?? In Barack we trust!!!

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Obama is right on this one. The only way to defeat terrorism is to refuse to be terrorized.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Mountanman
Hayden, ID

If we can't win a war against an ideology, what shall we do? We have to win or be destroyed because to them you and I are "infidels" and the solution is our death!

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I can always tell someone who has NEVER served in the military...

1. You fight fire with fire.
2. You fight bullets with bullets.
3. You fight bombs with bombs.
4. You fight ideologies with ideologies. [BTW - That's what the "War in Heaven" was all about.]

So, if one wants to get technical -- it is a war of Ideology, not a war on terror.
But conservatives like GW Bush thought fighting Terror with Terror was the correct approach -- but still get it all wrong.

BTW -- God didn't carpet bomb Lucifer and his followers into submission.

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